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    Default [Citizen] LolIsuck (Patron: General Brewster)

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    Since we haven't got to do anything anyway and I feel the Dutch citizens are highly underpopulated I gift you! General lolIsuck this is a small town boy living in an area they just invented energy and at 20:00 everybody goes to bed since they are not allowed outside. Now the fact he lives in a totally unuseble part of my glorious Kingdom of the Netherlands, and Aruba, Antilles and BES island etc. Doesn't mean he won't be a great spammer in the CVRIA.

    Now on a more serious annotation. I met lolISuck a month after I joined this site in the all renound Dutch Thread! We all know the best people come from that thread so I thought lets patronize him
    Seriously he's a cool guy his additude is awesome and he really really makes an effort to become a citizen and so I think he should be the second son in the House of Generals.

    Now I lieve you with this



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    I joined TWC almost precisely two years ago and now I stand before you. I came here via an article on the best TW mods just to download TATW. I forgot about the site almost immediately and returned at the start of 2011, hanging around in the M2TW and RTW forums and being a fanboy. I soon discovered the Coliseum and started posting a lot there, playing silly word games and participating in the dark practices of rep trading, something I was pretty good at I guess. I started learning how to mod in the summer of 2011, starting with mapping, but because of my attention span of about 3 seconds it took quite a while to do a lot (or anything at all). Around New Year I made the switch from Coliseum to Thema Devia, not much of an improvement really, and somehow I won the award for fastest rising newb. I started thinking of becoming a citizen, it was always my goal to some day become citizen but it seemed pretty close then. Unfortunately I got a stupid infraction which demotivated me and I pretty much stopped my modding work, it also made me unable to join content staff. After my infraction expired I was too busy with university work to do something and I had to halt my entry into the elite forces of staff untill august. The last few months I have worked in staff and I am now resuming my modding work.

    As said I recieved an infraction, originally for off-topic posting, on the 17th of February, I appealed it here but alas, the infraction stayed, although it was turned into defying moderators.

    My contributions listed:

    Content Staff:
    I have been a member of content staff since august, writing for the Eagle Standard. I have so far been part of 2 editions, writing 9 articles in total.


    Modding:
    I haven't done anything in the modding section that can really be listed as a contribution, I am part of several mod teams but none of these have releases I helped on. I will still list them just for the sake of listing stuff.

    Tales Of the East: This is my first mod, came up with the idea years ago and I decided to make it into a mod, worked out the story with Ciloron's help (ok, he did most) and started on the map. It's currently on hold but once I have time again I will continue this.

    The Medieval World: This mod, originally by knin, was sliding towards the dark abbys after knin became rather inactive and together with some of the old team members I took over the project. The mod is on hold because everyone is busy.

    The Sundering: Struggle for the Old World: I am currently reworking the heights and ground types for the map of this mod.

    War of the West: I have done some research and beta testing, hopefully I will be able to do some mapping too.

    Furthermore, I try to be as helpful and nice as possible, in the mod workshop but also in other areas of the site. Also, although it probably doesn't qualify for a contribution, I am pretty active in the M2TW and TATW Who am I games, I played most of my campaigns just to get good maps for the game.

    I apoligize on all the bad and useless posts you'll be going through and thank GED that he cleaned out most of my old Coliseum posts.

    Goodbye all and have fun digging. Here's some new shovels to help you (The pitchfork is for when you see me after you're done digging):

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    Default Re: [Citizen] LolIsuck (Patron: General Brewster)

    Great to see him brought before us!

    Moderation issues?


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    Default Re: [Citizen] LolIsuck (Patron: General Brewster)

    I have been watching this young rascal for a while now, knew this would come along.

    My only worry is if he has mod issues, so I echo Aik.

    Otherwise I'm thinking of voting yes just for ending our boredom.

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    Default Re: [Citizen] LolIsuck (Patron: General Brewster)

    I haven't done anything in the modding section that can really be listed as a contribution
    This and 9 ES articles which combined amount to about to just over 3,000 words.

    His articles in Volume X Issue IX are better quality, most notably "End of Antiquity: The First Crusade" and "Heiđin Veđr Total War" which I consider his best articles so far. The two mods that are his are both on hold and are WIPs or in early stages. I'll PM Kolwen about his contribution to Sundering because I speak to him.

    I'll get some digging done through his posts.
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    Default Re: [Citizen] LolIsuck (Patron: General Brewster)

    War of the West

    It should be noted he has listed as "Role: Flemish Researcher." under the official team members heading.

    He has 31 posts in the War of The West County of Flanders public research thread which are in the spoiler below:
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    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    I'll help you on this as I think you'll like some dutch translation and a lot of info will probably in dutch
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    again can't see it
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    Problem is that at that time Margarita was ruling on her own at the start of the mod
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    how about you use some of this, Poly?
    http://www.liebaart.org/milita_e.htm
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    Ok, I will try my best
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    around 1300 at least they were very common
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    The Flemish used the pikes to stop the charge and the goedendag to hit the men who still were on their horse off it.



    note: spear here is translated, in the Dutch text it says lans of piek (lance or pike)
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    This is what I have got so far, additions/changes are of course possible and welcome

    Flanders unit roster

    Infantry
    - Boerenmilitie (peasants)
    - Stadsmilitie (town militia, with falchion)
    - Piekeniers (pikemen, you might want a heavier armed one and a militia-like one)
    - Serianten (warriors/soldiers, a little lighter than soldeniers)
    - Soldeniers (soldiers, armed with goedendag)
    - Poorters (rich patricians, good armour, with sword I guess)

    Missiles (haven't got a lot as normal bow wasn't really in use anymore, possible peasant archers or lighter crossbowmen)
    - Schutters (crossbowmen, accompanied by garsoenen who carried their pavise shields)

    Cavalry
    - Poortelijke ruiterij (rich patricians, providing the cavalry from the cities
    - Edelknapen (squires)
    - Nobelen (nobles/knights)

    Garsoenen could be added as a unit, they protected the crossbowmen against missiles. Could have high defense but low attack.
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    -Well, I didn't see them but that would be a great addition, I also need a low-tier archer unit.
    -Serianten are just soldiers, like soldeniers. I just wrote both so there are some more units. You can give them every weapon you want
    -piekeniers just means pikemen, I would make 2 units, one militia and one more prof
    - Soldeniers just means soldiers, I wanted them to be high tier and as Flanders lacked a big professional army it's urban yea.
    -Poorters were the higher class in the cities, they can afford good equipment and I guess had some reasonable training
    - nobelen means nobles, they were the knights so the elite
    -edelknapen are squires, every knight brought a few squires and took care of their equipment so they are medium cavalry
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    It's pretty hard to categorize as opposed to the armies of most faction (except Italian) they had a lot of militia from the cities wich I don't know in what category to place. It hasn't really got a feudal army, just some knights and squires, bulk of the army is from the cities
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    Medieval dutch is pretty hard, we had to read a small text where the Duke of Brabant gave city rights to Den Bosch and some parts were pretty hard to understand
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    yes, I'm from Limburg
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    yea I know but rijke poorters doesn't sound cool for a unit
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    most militia units were poorters too as Flanders' army mainly drove on it's urban militia
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    We have to make it a bit fun to play too Plumo.
    I think stadsmilitie should have falcons as weapons, the site states they were pretty common for militia as they were cheaper than swords
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    yea that would be cool but impossible I think
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    Tongeren has a Belfort? Missed that when I was there last week
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    The biggest part of Flanders was a fee of the French kings from the treaty of Verdun in 843 but the part west of the Scheldt was part of the Holy Roman Empire.
    Flanders wasn't under strong influence of the French king but at the end of the 13th and beginning of the 14th century the king tried to take Flanders under permanent control but he failed and was defeated at the battle of the Gulden Spurs. Flanders was acquired by Burgundy in 1384 and in 1482 it went to the house of Habsburg.
    So Flanders was independent and it was on the side of England (not suprising since they were highly depending on trade)
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    Not in the near future, the team is working on a Britannia campaign first so those factions are to be finished first.
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    Sure you can bro.
    Would love to really.
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    When I'm talking about Flanders in the medieval era I mean that area too.
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    The count will most probably be the faction leader yea.
    Although at the starting date there was no count I tought, just a countess and SoP said me they had something fun for that but I still don't know what.

    About the other thing, I will try to get it as historic as possible and give Flanders a unique taste, I think we can work that out.
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    We haven't looked at the map yet, the team is at the moment working on the Britannia campaign and all we have for the other factions is what's in the threads I think.
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    Yes, garisson script will be implemented. For the cities, of course both Ghent and Bruges will be included. Leuven was the capital of the Duchy of Brabant, another important faction in the region that we unfortunately cannot include but Leuven will be included too.
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    What's your home region?
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    Yes, it's a shame actually but we have to make choices and I wasn't there when they were made.
    I always mix up Turnhout with Sint Truiden in location. I'm from Heerlen, Limburg.
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    Sounds cool, would love to hear what he says.
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    Can you think of any region-specific units in the Low Countries as mercenaries? I thought Brabant had a good reputation on knights and since we can't include all those counties and duchies it would be nice to have some regional units and mercs.
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    The mod will use culture instead of religion (like in Britannia) and you can link units to a minimum culture level so if 20% culture becomes English you get access to longbows for example. Buildings can increase that culture and to prevent you from profiting from both sides' special units I would say the better units of that side need 50% culture or more.

    Poly also said something about unlocking mercs through alliances which is another possibility.
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    Not urgent, we're (they're actually) still working on the Brittania campaign.
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    -_-
    Quote Originally Posted by Polycarpe View Post
    Gentlemen, I really appreciate the amount of information, for sure Flanders will be a quite unique faction to play.

    He has a total of 4 other relatively minor posts in the other public faction research threads combined.
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    Default Re: [Citizen] LolIsuck (Patron: General Brewster)

    Tale of the East
    64 posts, last one 8th June 2012.

    Main updates:
    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...8#post11001278

    War of the West
    61 posts made in the General Discussion thread (the main World of the West thread which as 1,335 posts at this posting time), none seem to stand out.

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    Full marks attitude-wise. Contributions I'm less convinced - 9 articles sounds impressive until you realise each one is only a paragraph or two in length. Such is the nature of ES pieces, but nonetheless. Will keep looking.
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    Default Re: [Citizen] LolIsuck (Patron: General Brewster)

    I've posted something in Quarters.
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    Default Re: [Citizen] LolIsuck (Patron: General Brewster)

    In case it got overlooked in the ongoing other discussion in Townhall
    Quote Originally Posted by SonofPeverel View Post
    In regards to this applicant
    Lolisuck had been a great help to the efforts of the WOTW team, from the obvious help with Flanders research to his banter to keep activity up when things are slow. But his largest contribution, IMO, for us is his help with map trouble shooting. Multiple times he helped me figure out bugs, crashes, etc along with several general improvement suggestions.


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    Default Re: [Citizen] LolIsuck (Patron: General Brewster)

    *Posting blind, and basically shooting from the emotio0nal hip*


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    Default Re: [Citizen] LolIsuck (Patron: General Brewster)

    Nice digging, Shanky. I am very familiar with this applicant. Each time I have conversed with him in some fashion, either through PM or in the Thema Devia, he has always been friendly. My first impression of him, hence, is rather good. I also know that he has wanted to become a citizen for a long time now, and has been rather frustrated because he wishes to assume higher functions here at TWC. Thus, in terms of future potential of this applicant, I have high hopes.

    I'll go start digging deeper into his qualifications now.

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    Default Re: [Citizen] LolIsuck (Patron: General Brewster)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kolwen
    Quote Originally Posted by Shankbot de Bodemloze
    Hi Kolwen,

    As part of the CdeC who are reviewing lolIsuck's application to become a Citizen I was wondering if you could tell me a bit more about the work he has done (or is currently doing) for The Sundering: Struggle for the Old World mod?

    Thank-you,
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    Sure!
    Some months ago, I asked to him for help. I had done a map however it was unfinished. The heights needed to be polished as the ground types. Our old mapper (Toho) was very busy, but he suggested me to contact LolIsuck.
    He accepted to help us, and the map should be finished soon, but I have not seen his work on it yet.
    I know he still working on it since we keep in contact by PM, but I cannot tell you much more.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolwen

    It's ok, mate. However I was wondering if it sounded like if I am doubting of his work.
    I wouldn't like to have a misunderstanding due to my terrible english.
    Do you mind to add a "I am sure his work will be astonishing when finished"?
    Thank you!
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    Default Re: [Citizen] LolIsuck (Patron: General Brewster)

    Concerning SoP's recommendation in the Townhall, I just like to point out WOTW is not yet released besides a custom battle and that we've seen another applicant brought before us who did create the map for WOTW. It's hard to get an impression of what the applicant here to treat with might have done to improve the map another failed applicant has done without the work being released yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diamat View Post
    Nice digging, Shanky. I am very familiar with this applicant. Each time I have conversed with him in some fashion, either through PM or in the Thema Devia, he has always been friendly. My first impression of him, hence, is rather good. I also know that he has wanted to become a citizen for a long time now, and has been rather frustrated because he wishes to assume higher functions here at TWC. Thus, in terms of future potential of this applicant, I have high hopes.

    I'll go start digging deeper into his qualifications now.
    If the highlighted is the case, then I assume there will be plenty of contributions and a white collar moderationwise + only stellar behaviour of the applicant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aikanár View Post
    If the highlighted is the case, then I assume there will be plenty of contributions and a white collar moderationwise + only stellar behaviour of the applicant.
    Agreed. My comment was not meant to signify a free ride to citizenship, but merely to note his attitude.

    And just to be clear, this applicant has had no further infractions other than the one listed by Aikanar? When I was checking through the appeal thread, there was talk of something more.

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    Default Re: [Citizen] LolIsuck (Patron: General Brewster)

    I wish to comment on the Eagle Standard contributions. As Shanky hinted, although 9 articles sounds a lot, we should put it into perspective. This is the average length of one article:
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    War of the West might be one of the most promising mods for Medieval II Total War.
    Their goal is to create historically correct unit rosters and they’re succeeding in it
    as Lord Hamilton keeps pumping out these stunning units.
    After previews of England and the Lordship of the Isles the team now brings us:


    No more savage men in blue kilts running around with huge axes looking for a barber.
    Instead, we get a historically correct, more Norman influenced unit roster with fancy French names.
    These units are one by one all masterpieces, some of the most realistic units I have ever seen. The variation within the units is high and the details are just stunning so you don’t get the feeling you are commanding a clone army. Besides this lovely unit roster the Scotland preview also includes two unique characters in the persons of William Wallace and Robert the Bruce.




    No more Mel Gibson in a ragged kilt screaming freedom, this Wallace has decided to ride to battle in an expensive armour and with a proper retinue. He is still eager to kill some Englishmen, it’s your task to not make him end up on the scaffold again.



    If you thought the preview was good news than you’ll probably be rejoiced to hear that War of the West has released a custom battle demo, see the article about it in this very same edition of the Eagle Standard.

    To see the Scotland preview follow this link.


    This is not to demean the effort he put into this. On the contrary, I think it's great work. It shows that he is capable and consistent. However, it should not be confused with 9 Helios articles, which are much longer and require much more work. Still, great work.

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    Default Re: [Citizen] LolIsuck (Patron: General Brewster)

    Ok, after some more digging, I have a few more comments to make.

    His Tales of the East mod as well as his Medieval World mod are both still in the early stages of development. Thus, it is difficult to judge these, since nothing has really been released. Ideas are great. They show that there is motivation and creativity. However, I also like to see candidates capable of finishing a project. I really have no examples, in the modding section, that would allow me to commend him for his ability to finish a WIP.

    I truly wish this candidate would have waited a few more months. As lolIsuck said himself in a thread recently:
    Quote Originally Posted by lolIsuck View Post
    I will be a citizen one day, my hopes are actually to become one this year but I'd really have to do something then. probably next year though.

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    Default Re: [Citizen] LolIsuck (Patron: General Brewster)

    As lolIsuck said himself in a thread recently:
    Meh...Tis tongue and cheek. Actions speak louder than words.

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    Default Re: [Citizen] LolIsuck (Patron: General Brewster)

    His Appeal 791 in March this year. Edit: missed the link in his app

    Edit to the edit:
    Quote Originally Posted by SonofPeverel View Post
    To clear this up, The applicant Aik is talking about has helped with WOTW and is working on our HYW map, however this part is wrong: who did create the map for WOTW . The finished WOTW Brittania map was made by me. The applicant Aik is talking about came before the cdec with his completed map "Road to Jerusalem" however the mod he completed it for is unreleased. He and LOLISUCK's mapping are unrelated.

    Both have helped me with bug fixing etc on the Brittania map I created. I was attempting to point out that LOL's help to us goes beyond just research.

    Cheers SoP for pointing this out
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    Default Re: [Citizen] LolIsuck (Patron: General Brewster)

    I'm happy if there were a few other isolated incidents in the past, I would only be worried about much more recent events, although obviously he must be relatively clean if he is here

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    Default Re: [Citizen] LolIsuck (Patron: General Brewster)

    "If" he has dipped his toes into the D&D it would reflect negatively {in my book} if he had'nt had some type of moderation/tribunal scuffles.

    I speak prematurely of course cuz I had'nt looked it over yet. But...if one showed up in tribunal and made a creadable show of it, I would award them would brownie points for the effort.

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