Return of landmarks for heroic victories?

[Zipzopdippidybopbop]

What the title says. In RTW/Medieval 2, a heroic victory was marked by a simple icon of crossed swords. While very minor, it helped immerse me in the game all the more (by looking back and thinking - yes, this was where I managed to annihilate the superior Mongol army or where I defeated the English etc).

While in Shogun 2 I believe a battle trophy was set up when you simply defeated a large army I think it should be fixed - the trophies should only appear when one side wins a heroic victory over the other.

Furthermore, carrying on from this - I think some overhaul of the stats required for a heroic/great victory or defeat is in order. It appears to be much too easy/random in the Warscape games...

Anyways, that's just my 2 bits. I know I'm ranting on about trivial matters, but it is these trivial matters that help define the eventual game, and after all, every little helps eh =P

Thoughts?

[The Bold Burgundian]

There are battles?

[Kinjo]

Yeah I like the idea of having a heroic victory icon just wish they would not appear on the center of a road maybe just a little off set or off to the side of the road so its not an eyesore. Also the threshold should be a little higher imo my current campaign has them all over the place.

Maybe the system will be reworked so that you get a triumph after winning a war and you get a sort video clip of your troops doing a victory march or parade of some type. Heroic victories could still be marked by a column just hope they make it so its not placed on top of roads again.

[Zipzopdippidybopbop]

Yeah I like the idea of having a heroic victory icon just wish they would not appear on the center of a road maybe just a little off set or off to the side of the road so its not an eyesore. Also the threshold should be a little higher imo my current has then all over the place.

Maybe the system will be reworked so that you get a triumph after winning a war and you get a sort video clip of your troops doing a victory march or parade of some type. Heroic victories could still be marked by a column just hope they make it so its not placed on top of roads again.

I like this idea - but it would probably only be of use to the Roman faction.

+rep

[♠ Thomas Cochrane ♠]

Yeah I like the idea of having a heroic victory icon just wish they would not appear on the center of a road maybe just a little off set or off to the side of the road so its not an eyesore. Also the threshold should be a little higher imo my current campaign has them all over the place.

Maybe the system will be reworked so that you get a triumph after winning a war and you get a sort video clip of your troops doing a victory march or parade of some type. Heroic victories could still be marked by a column just hope they make it so its not placed on top of roads again.

Regarding Triumphs, Look at the picture in the Roman faction page. It's a triumph. There will be triumphs.

[Kinjo]

All factions should have a victory march for winning a war, might make wars feel a little more important. If you have seen the faction previews there is some kind of parade going on for Rome and Carthage, just hope its not from the win campaign trailer.

[Ichon]

I'd love for the Heroic/Monument requirements to be re-worked. It would be nice if 2 categories, long term enemies and against the odds (also is there any way to commemorate sea battles?). So for example getting into a war between large empires the standard for a monument or heroic victory becomes set quite high. On the other hand being ambushed by an army of a small faction and winning despite the odds is recognized.

For triumphs I don't think a single battle should be the criteria- instead capturing an entire province and winning at least 1 large battle.

[Yayattasa]

If you played a game called Age of Wonders, you know at the end of each match there were a 'summary' of everything that happened to your faction.
It was really nice, and it could include the heroic and major battles you fought.
So, instead of a boring "You won!" we get to see how we performed.

[Stath's]

ofc. any markers that show your course with a faction are welcome.

[Kinjo]

Good point about making wars more of an immersive event which I think is a fascistic idea. Wars have gotten so causal and easy that it doesn't really draw me into the moment. There definitely are some things that could be done to dress up the event a little more. A good start would be give the war a name! for example 1st Macedonia War, historically Rome had 4 wars with Macedonia. I like how in Crusader Kings II you had a little icon for each war you were involved in, why not just have a War Tab?

I know there is already a summer of events but War is one of the main things a player does so it certainly warrants a war tab. It could contain the wars you are involved in as well as other wars that are going on with other factions instead of having to search through the diplomacy menu to see what alliance dragged faction X into a certain war you could just look at your war tab. It could even give you a breakdown of how the war is going, how much it has cost you financially, battles won and battles lost, rough estimates of the strength of each factions armies, number of regions controlled, etc. I'll leave it at that don't want to stray too far off topic.

[Sar1n]

... which I think is a fascistic idea. ...

I hope you meant fascinating. It's good to read your post again before clicking submit.

[Kinjo]

Seriously busting my balls over a misspelled word? I hope you die in a chemical fire.

[Sar1n]

Seriously busting my balls over a misspelled word? I hope you die in a chemical fire.

Given the maning of that misspell...it certainly needed a poke.

[Kinjo]

Given the maning of that misspell...it certainly needed a poke.

Dude you can't even spell so chill out.

[Ngazi]

I don't get too many of them. Usually I outnumber the AI... it was a siege, or my general had too many stars and so the game thinks I should have won anyway, or I out-teched the AI and had too high quality units.

[TsarGrey]

I would like to see something else than that dull bust, just for personal distaste. Maybe roman aquila trushed a ground with some trash around it, or anything... just not statue. And yeah, you should get 'em also minor battles, if they're heroic.

[adampa1006]

+1 I want the heroic return makers. Haven't played Rome in s a while I don't remember what they look like but I know they were great and increases immersion a lot, seeing those was just like man this world has a history and you remember older conquests and stuff.

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[Aeneas Veneratio]

^They looked like 2 swords crossed

I would prefer, if we had silver marks for large battles (like in S2) and golden marks for heroic battles. The large battles symbolize some of the major engagements between factions and show of the progression of wars long ago between your faction and now extinct factions. A lot of major engagements, which are still noteworthy historically in relations to the wars they were fought in, were more likely considered close victories or desisive victories. If we only remembered heroic victories, our history books would probably be shorter.

[Quintillius]

The player should get options to build monuments.
Wooden, stone or marble statues which remember us of that glorious battle.

[Rijul.J.Ballal]

This^.