JUDEA

[The Juggernaut]

The Jews as an emergent faction, complete with all the fleshed out dilemmas and consequences, would be AWESOME! Historically they were kinda troublemakers for whoever happened to be trying to rule them, and if done right I can't think of why it would be offensive to anyone! I'd love to play as them to, Maccabees is my favorite book in the O.T. Israelites kick ass!

[He111]

If you add Judea as a unique Faction, and give back the "Exterminate Populance" Option after Conquering a settlement, and you have the biggest Media Butthurt in Centurys - regarding Videogames. I really doubt they will make an apperance, even if theyre a very interesting Faction.

[PROMETHEUS ts]

I agree hopefully emerging factions will appear in non scripted events as seems they have said... But tell me ... How many boobs x 2 have you used so far?

[Stavroforos]

Judea could be a client kingdom of the Egyptians, or it could simply be a province which is owned by Egypt, according to what we've seen in the map preview in any case. But ever since Empire, vassal states have counted as your own states as far as victory objective go, so there could well be a Judean faction from the beginning.

[Darth_Revan]

It will most likely be an emergent faction. I hope so, so I can squash them with my legions, V Macedonia, XII Fulminata, XV Apollinaris, and the X Frentensis!

[Nepos]

I'd love to see Judea as a playable faction, starting as an army outside the city and then conquering Jerusalem. After that it's single goal would be to stay independant. It would be a hard campaign and interesting. Also, they should have prophets as agents who inspire troops in battle and create a small chance of natural disasters occuring. Also, when Jesus does come to light in 33AD you can choose whether to convert the nation, crucify him or leave him.

[PSYCHO V]

Update: See OP. Looks like there won't be any Judea.

[Manuel I Komnenos]

Judea and its inhabitants were of significant importance for both the Seleucids and the Ptolemies and their approach towards its religious matters could yield beneficial or disastrous results. I'd love to see that portrayed in the game. A positive stance towards the Jewish religion could gain you support and troops from the area and a harsh stance could lead to the creation of an independent Jewish state.

[Durnaug]

I think Judea will feature, even as a DLC. Stay positive dude!

[Doe3000]

I think Judea will feature, even as a DLC. Stay positive dude!

I hope you are right, and that Judea will one day appear as an emergent faction. It's a big missed opportunity to leave them out.

[Toho]

people can make units and change these text based stuff by putting more specific type of mercenary if thats what you are worried about.
and to be fair the jewish population is pretty small.

I am sure there are hundreds of cultures that were squeezed out of Rome 2 for the sake of playability.

[PROMETHEUS ts]

I guess very few hav an Idea of the Maccabean wars and Judas Maccabaeus battles against Seleucids, Judea was all but a minor faction and surely was hugely more worth to be implemented than Iceni or Suebi .

[Smiling Hetairoi]

I'd love to see Judea in the game. Great mercenaries and if they revolt I can crush them with the Seleucids.

[xjlxking]

Judas wasnt a big deal during the game era. Seriously, I agree ever factions, area shouod be depicted in the game, but to say that Judas was very important because of what? Revolts of the masses? Common now, it wasnt a big deal. To compare it to the barbarians, spartacus or other areas which need more development is both laughable and ridiculous. I wouldnt call them insignificant because ill have all the Jewish supporters attacking me, but they were near that level. This goes for my ancestral homeland. Yet you don't see me crying over it

[douglas]

The Judeans were a warrior group in the main, and provided soldiers in a number of areas over the centuries before Roman control was established in the area. I have to be honest though. As a separate faction I don't think they have anything that moves them to the head of the "let's play this bunch" line. I would certainly like to play them if they were available but also some of the Spanish factions, Sarmatia, and several German and Celtic factions are higher on my personal list.

[Stath's]

I guess some of you would be interested in seeing this

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-haHashmonayim

[PSYCHO V]

I guess some of you would be interested in seeing this

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...-haHashmonayim

Nice, thanks

Re: Mainly Jewish people lobbying... My thoughts exactly. Compared to the other major factions Judea is insignificant, however some Jewish units / mercs would have been a nice touch.

Not a drop of Jewish blood, just appreciate major world events being depicted in historically based games.

I can not begin to comprehend why anyone with any sense of historical appreciation could claim that the events surrounding the successful Jewish War of Indepedence, the formation of the state of Judea, the decline and final destruction at the hands of Rome and the subsequent Jewish Dispora ... is all insignificant!? Surely they jest?

As to the population of Jews being minimal, we don't have figures for those killed during their stuggle for independance from the Hellenes but the Romans accounted for some 3 million dead... the same number that were killed during the conquest of all of western Europe / Gaul.

my2bob

[Toho]

Nice, thanks



Not a drop of Jewish blood, just appreciate major world events being depicted in historically based games.

I can not begin to comprehend why anyone with any sense of historical appreciation could claim that the events surrounding the successful Jewish War of Indepedence, the formation of the state of Judea, the decline and final destruction at the hands of Rome and the subsequent Jewish Dispora ... is all insignificant!? Surely they jest?

As to the population of Jews being minimal, we don't have figures for those killed during their stuggle for independance from the Hellenes but the Romans accounted for some 3 million dead... the same number that were killed during the conquest of all of western Europe / Gaul.

my2bob

well the Jewish rebellion cannot be any different than any normal rebellion that is quickly crushed on the game.
you are asking CA to make mercenaries for only one region much less province.

basically giving the jews a special favor.
what does that make you think?

[Raikou]

well the Jewish rebellion cannot be any different than any normal rebellion that is quickly crushed on the game.
you are asking CA to make mercenaries for only one region much less province.

basically giving the jews a special favor.
what does that make you think?

It makes me think about Hanukkah

no but seriously, an emergent faction is the only way I think it'd fit in however I thought they already listed all the factions in the game?

[Dan113112]

I thought they already listed all the factions in the game?

They listed all of the current factions on the interactive map. There's about 115. CA said there'd be more than that. Can't remember the exact number. So, I'm guessing there'll be emergent factions as well.