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    kshcshbash's Avatar My Good Sir CNSW
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    Hello.
    The purpose of this thread is to teach others about your religous views.
    Be tolerant and don't say "that is completely idiotic" or something.

    I'll start with my warped views:
    Firstly, I base my views off Sikhism. I was raised in a Khalsa Sikh environment although I am not Amritdari (baptised) neither is anyone in my household. In fact, the only person in my family who is was my Grandmother and she passed two years ago.

    Let me show you an excerpt from the first lines of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib (The last Guru, equivalent of the Bible plus the fact that it is worshipped as a Guru):

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    There is One and only One God who is transcendent as well as immanent. True and Eternal Name. Creator and Person. Without Fear and without Enmity. Timeless Form, Unborn, Self-existent. Realized by Divine Grace.
    To me, God is the unknown. God is the ultimate Truth.
    Here is an expmeriment devised by Schroedinger:
    A cat is placed in a sealed box. Attached to the box is an apparatus containing a radioactive atomic nucleus and a canister of poison gas. This apparatus is separated from the cat in such a way that the cat can in no way interfere with it. The experiment is set up so that there is exactly a 50% chance of the nucleus decaying in one hour. If the nucleus decays, it will emit a particle that triggers the apparatus, which opens the canister and kills the cat. If the nucleus does not decay, then the cat remains alive.
    The status of the cat before the box is opened and one hour is up is God. He is, as I said, the ultimate Truth. The only way to meet God is to look inside the box. There is no Box, but we can learn to be at one with our minds and break away from Sin. This is Divine Grace.

    What is Sin? Sin is whatever you believe to be wrong. God is the only one Qualified to speak what is right and wrong, yet he does not speak.
    Every human being has a sense of Morality, and the True path to Divine grace is to live without Regret or Sin against our Morals.

    Now, you might be thinking I think you should "do what you want".
    You should. If you do not believe that adultery is wrong, then you should be an adulterer. Anything
    else is fallacy and contrary to the path to Divine Grace.

    How should one Worship? By listening to the words of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib being read. Listening helps to deter our ego's, but reading for others is good, if you do it for the right reasons.
    The Guru Granth Sahib is a Guru to me because:
    You can seek advice from it. Read between the lines.
    You can debate with it. Think on what is said. Ask yourself why it was said. Argue with yourself, effectively. I do it a lot.
    You can talk to it. Ask yourself a question and answer by reading between the lines.
    Generally, we should not be egotistical. We are infinitely more ingorant than God and we shall never attain true knowledge so it is fruitless to try. True realization of This is the height of Human Experience.

    So yeah, what do you think about God and religion??
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    Quote Originally Posted by CNSW
    Hello.
    The purpose of this thread is to teach others about your religous views.
    Be tolerant and don't say "that is completely idiotic" or something.

    So yeah, what do you think about God and religion??
    That was an interesting expierament thing. I feel God is something no human being or mortal can image, nor concieve. God is so complex the human brain cannot imagine what God is like. I also believe Religion should be a guide, not rules. Religion is here to guide us to the true path of life, not control us or rule us.

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    Its rather hard for me to explain everything i believe in, so ill jsut give a link, and the second post is mine.

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=53388

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    Put quite simply, I an atheist. I do respect certain religions, and find them interesting, but none of those are monotheism. I don't believe in them, of course, but they are cool to learn about.

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    What is Sin? Sin is whatever you believe to be wrong. God is the only one Qualified to speak what is right and wrong, yet he does not speak.
    Every human being has a sense of Morality, and the True path to Divine grace is to live without Regret or Sin against our Morals.

    Now, you might be thinking I think you should "do what you want".
    You should. If you do not believe that adultery is wrong, then you should be an adulterer. Anything
    else is fallacy and contrary to the path to Divine Grace.
    So when a deranged or self-serviant murderer kills somebody because he has a compulsion to do so, this is self-evidently moral. To do otherwise would be contrary to the path of Divine Grace.

    The Guru Granth Sahib is a Guru to me because:
    You can seek advice from it. Read between the lines.
    You can debate with it. Think on what is said. Ask yourself why it was said. Argue with yourself, effectively. I do it a lot.
    You can talk to it. Ask yourself a question and answer by reading between the lines.
    The same could be said by any practitioner of another school of theism - this is hardly supportive of the supremacy of your dogma.

    As for myself I'm strictly speaking an agnostic, purely because you cannot prove or disprove God. My supposition is atheism, however - in the absence of evidence, disregard the notion. I find any school of faith that limits the potential number of deities as absurd - if you accept one, there could potentially be infinite. The chances of your God being THE God is 1/infinity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Have a Clever Name
    So when a deranged or self-serviant murderer kills somebody because he has a compulsion to do so, this is self-evidently moral. To do otherwise would be contrary to the path of Divine Grace.
    Yes. If that is what he truly believes is right, then the right thing to do is to do it.
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    The same could be said by any practitioner of another school of theism - this is hardly supportive of the supremacy of your dogma.
    I'm not preaching the supremacy of it. Hell, it's ludicrous but it just happens to be what I believe.
    The difference about the Granth Sahib is that it is worshipped and viewed as a Guru by Sikhs. That isn't the same about most religions, so I was just explaining that part to people.

    What bit are we going after? The SGGS being a Guru or my beliefs?
    Quote Originally Posted by I Have a Clever Name
    As for myself I'm strictly speaking an agnostic, purely because you cannot prove or disprove God. My supposition is atheism, however - in the absence of evidence, disregard the notion. I find any school of faith that limits the potential number of deities as absurd - if you accept one, there could potentially be infinite. The chances of your God being THE God is 1/infinity.
    Which is why there is no conventional God in CNSWism.
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    My view on religion is that it should not be taught at childhood, no one should be 'brought up' a jew of a christian because, in my opinion its brainwashing; if you tell a child something enough times and give 'evidence' for this they will belive no matter how perposterous it is.
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    I am atheist, end of story.
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    Im an atheist, there isnt much else to say.
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    Gatesism, or Heaven's Gatesists. Me and fellow Gatesians believe that Bill Gates will have enough money when he dies that he will be able to buy Heaven from God(or at least rent the lower levels). And the only people he will let in will be people who bought Windows OSs.

    The bible of Gatesism is written on Microsoft Word, and is saved on a CD-R that is sealed in the Disney Vault for some reason. It describes Mr. Gates's business plan for the future, and of course his plans for the afterlife. It has two commandments, but no rites or rituals.

    The first commandment: Thou shalt have no other Operating Systems besides me.
    The second Commandment: Thou shalt be thrown into the Recycle Bin of the afterlife(Hell), if thou buyest anything from the Apple Computer Co.

    The great battle of Armageddon will take place the day after the death of Bill Gates, and it will be between the forces of Bruce Willis and the FSM, and Bill Gates and the employees of Microsoft Corporation's Headquarters(he and his employees will die at the same time when the building is destroyed by terrorists). His employees will fight valiantly and will kill Bruce Willis, but will be all slain by the FSM. Gates will stop the FSM however, by simply bribing it into killing itself.

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    well, its quite simple, the god incarnate was born may 14 1991 in wales, he is on this forums, it says so in the bible, but the catholic church ommitted it in fear of the god !! all bow down to the amazing glory of his holyness!!!


    (btw if you havent noticed i am the god the book spoke of)




    but seriously im atheist, im not sucking up to anyone, espcially somone with only three letters in his name.

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    I am atheist..but still deeply respect Budhism(early teachings).
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    Yes. If that is what he truly believes is right, then the right thing to do is to do it.
    And what if this action doesn't have Divine Backing and is simply motivated by emotivism. Are we to tolerate a man slaughtering people in droves because we think its 'Divine Grace'? That would be contrary to other's emotional reaction, that of reprisal and cessation of an action commonly percieved to be immoral.

    I'm not preaching the supremacy of it. Hell, it's ludicrous but it just happens to be what I believe.
    The difference about the Granth Sahib is that it is worshipped and viewed as a Guru by Sikhs. That isn't the same about most religions, so I was just explaining that part to people.

    What bit are we going after? The SGGS being a Guru or my beliefs?
    Your texts. You said this my guide for 'such and such reason' and I was merely showing you that the same could be said for anybody. You admit its ludricrous, but you still believe in it. The question is why, now that we've established that your supportations are hardly unique.

    Which is why there is no conventional God in CNSWism.
    Yes, you choose to call your God the 'unknown'. That would mean that everything I do not know is God. Your God is nothing more than ignorance. Of course, ignorance is just an abstract term so such a statement is absurd.. it would merely be an exchange of words - similiar to pantheism.

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    as a catholic here are my views: to be good. a person slaps you, you turn the other cheek. being tolerant, forgiving, non-judgementle, i try to never curse. (the big ones)
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    as a catholic here are my views: to be good. a person slaps you, you turn the other cheek. being tolerant, forgiving, non-judgementle, i try to never curse. (the big ones)
    Those are your ethical views. But what you define as good is based on your historical and metaphysical views.

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