INSANE Difficulty and Epic Battles for Baron's Mod(WIP)

[W1Z21]

Hello everyone!

I seem to have been bitten with the Third Age bug again and im back lol. most of you prolly dont know me but i've made a sub mod for barons mods for Third Age 2.5.. well now im going to redo it for 3.1 with barons mod(still waiting on permission again)

So what will this sub-mod do you ask????

well here's whats planned:

removing all unfairness given to AI(like reinforcements)(so now even the AI can go bankrupt!!)

give all actions a large sum of money to start with

give the AI more movement points so they are much more aggressive

make rohan, gondor, drawfs, blue elfs, green elfs, arnor a team vrs all evil (but its a VERY loose alliance)

make each faction's unit have a more effective damage/defense(example: a gondor soldier in plate armor should have a decent defense)

make each building take 1 turn to build

every settlement can recruit 9 units at once

larger recruitment pools for all untis(~15 units)

recruitment pools fill up at .9 units a turn

also to make things a little more challenging id only do auto battles.. since things WILL get harder like them sending 100 or so stacks at you

tl;dr

this give you a little edge in the beginning.. but once the AI catches up (in 20 turns or so) its an uphill battle

if you would like me to edit/add anything PLEASE tell me here or in a PM

UPDATE: I plan to release this sometime this week.. still doing testing and bug fixing. aswell as tweaking unit defenses and damages

AND expect screens within a day or so of how its working

[Zimmy]

This seems more easier than hard.

[W1Z21]

well you would think that until mordor is sending 100 full stacks at you.. which reminds me i better update op on some stuff

[Ngugi]

You'll might have to wait, as far as we know he haven't been in since early June, just so you are forewarned

[W1Z21]

well i technically do have permission from him.. its from the last time i did the exact same thing and he never took the permission away

so with that im pressing forward and giving him 100% of the credit he deserves.. and if he gets on here and says no.. ill gladly remove it

[Riverknight]

Not trying to be "That guy" but Baron has not updated his sub-mod for awhile and there are lots of issues and bugs, maybe ask Hero of the West for permission to use MoS because he is active and he and his team update their mod regularly, just a thought I suppose decision is all yours. And this mod looks really good! c

[W1Z21]

Not trying to be "That guy" but Baron has not updated his sub-mod for awhile and there are lots of issues and bugs, maybe ask Hero of the West for permission to use MoS because he is active and he and his team update their mod regularly, just a thought I suppose decision is all yours. And this mod looks really good! c

well im not an expert but ill update barons as much as i can.. idk if i will update it to 3.2.. but ill do what i can

[Riverknight]

Ok! Good Luck with the mod it looks awesome for big battles!

[Hero of the West]

You may not use barons content in your own mod.. you may however make your mod compatible with barons mod for 3.1.. so your options are either to make a 3.1 submod or to not build it on barons work.

[W1Z21]

You may not use barons content in your own mod.. you may however make your mod compatible with barons mod for 3.1.. so your options are either to make a 3.1 submod or to not build it on barons work.

its a sub mod as in its 4 text documents lol

[Ngugi]

The staff have had a little discussion concerning how to handle the case.

Due to the great difference between the old version and the current one in content, and knowing Baron have been restrictive with permission for the content he created from TATW 3.0 and foreward, we concluded that until Baron is back and can grant permission for his compalition as it is now, this project will not be allowed to publish here on TWC, just to be sure we do not violate Baron's will and permission rights.

regards Ngugi

[Aragorn1963]

I hope he gets the approval. Sounds like a grand idea.

[W1Z21]

and im going off this until i hear otherwise from baron...

[RBFloat05]

real glad that you are gonna pick up work on this sub mod again, And guys don't worry Baron doesnt care, he has givin this guy permission before, this is only a submod and the OP is giving credit. Also baron seems to have disappeared.

Anyways I think the things you are gonna do are real exciting I remember some of teh most epic battles were cause of tweaks this mod does.

One thing only maybe you could release another version or something where the AI doesnt run out of money?
I know its unfair advantage, but humans always can pretty much clean up through the AI, It would suck having long fun campaign then suddenly all teh epic battles stop because the computer is too stupid to manage its money, or runs out.

I think pretty much mordor and some other factions should have never ending swarms of stacks, makes it fun and realistic, (in books he really did come with hundereds of thousands of orcs.)

maybe not change the way alliances work? ( because barons mod already has alot of customizable parts where you can set up the way alliances work. )

Anyways this submod under barons mod for 3.1 would be the best version of third age ever.

looking forward to your work

[W1Z21]

real glad that you are gonna pick up work on this sub mod again, And guys don't worry Baron doesnt care, he has givin this guy permission before, this is only a submod and the OP is giving credit. Also baron seems to have disappeared.

Anyways I think the things you are gonna do are real exciting I remember some of teh most epic battles were cause of tweaks this mod does.

One thing only maybe you could release another version or something where the AI doesnt run out of money?
I know its unfair advantage, but humans always can pretty much clean up through the AI, It would suck having long fun campaign then suddenly all teh epic battles stop because the computer is too stupid to manage its money, or runs out.

I think pretty much mordor and some other factions should have never ending swarms of stacks, makes it fun and realistic, (in books he really did come with hundereds of thousands of orcs.)

maybe not change the way alliances work? ( because barons mod already has alot of customizable parts where you can set up the way alliances work. )

Anyways this submod under barons mod for 3.1 would be the best version of third age ever.

looking forward to your work

i am making EVERYONE start with like ~1 million and im removing the AIs cheats so YES they can run out just like you

[RBFloat05]

which cheats do you think you will remove? I'm just afraid that the AI will outspend its money right away and all of sudden game gets boring. because the AI goes bankrupt. maybe AI not smart enough to keep its money with no cheats?


If you can make extreme version where AI keeps cheats that would be cool.


Mayb i can get some pictures going up so that people know how epic this mod can become, with battles as big as in movies

[W1Z21]

which cheats do you think you will remove? I'm just afraid that the AI will outspend its money right away and all of sudden game gets boring. because the AI goes bankrupt. maybe AI not smart enough to keep its money with no cheats?


If you can make extreme version where AI keeps cheats that would be cool.


Mayb i can get some pictures going up so that people know how epic this mod can become, with battles as big as in movies

they should be able to handle it(i mean they should be making a nice amount of cash).. and no pics yet im still working on it
(atm things are going well, but i feel like it could be more difficult)

[RBFloat05]

oh also a really important thing maybe you should consider, there are some mods that increase population growth.

With your mod making so many armies and fighting, population will go down, and there isnt enough population in the game in normal mode either.


So I think maybe you should somehow increase population growth with this mod? Or maybe make cities start with more population?

(minas tirith in lore was a huge city at least 30 thousand people, but in the third age mod starts with only 4 thousand population....

[RBFloat05]

or maybe I am wrong i remember in rome total war to make an army you had to take population from city, maybe it dont work this way in medieval total war, you can ignore me, just trying to help with ideas.

good luck!

[W1Z21]

oh also a really important thing maybe you should consider, there are some mods that increase population growth.

With your mod making so many armies and fighting, population will go down, and there isnt enough population in the game in normal mode either.


So I think maybe you should somehow increase population growth with this mod? Or maybe make cities start with more population?

(minas tirith in lore was a huge city at least 30 thousand people, but in the third age mod starts with only 4 thousand population....

yes recruiting takes from the population.. so you will have to watch how many stacks you spam

(but it should be stable)