Submob of the Year - 2012

[What is Dead May Never Die]

Congratulations to Dux and his KoRaH's team, you all did an excellent job this year, keep up the great work.

[complete noob:(]

Fire and Blood will be the best upon completion, but as of now, I've gotta give it to Dux. AKoRaH is just excellent, well made, well scripted, very complete.

[Uriyaca]

What about Blackfyre's Rebellion?

And the Trustworthy AI isn't really a "submod" (a real different gameplay experience) it is just a little fix to the Westeros AI. Also, you shouldn't give Dux all the credit for the Young Bloods version, he simply fixed a few files in the Enhanced version made by CptTripz, who really made the enhanced version.

And I truly think that every one of those submods above have their own unique quality, for example Inarus made a great improvement to the Enhanced and gave the HBO series experience, Dux made an amazing job on the KORAH submod which is the best done submod so far (or at least until Badger-Dude completes his Fire and Blood submod )

And please, give credit to all the people who contributed in making the submod. For example, in the Fire and Blood option, write this Fire and Blood - Team leader - Badger-Dude. Other contributers - Korpskog, Prophet, and so on...
Cause Prophet did a lot of work on the Fire and Blood submod I don't see it fair not mentioning him .

[What is Dead May Never Die]

all the people who contributed in making the submod. For example, in the Fire and Blood option, write this Fire and Blood - Team leader - Badger-Dude. Other contributers - Korpskog, Prophet, and so on...

I understand how people should be credited, not just the team lead, but that's what the mods page is for

[Kingtotalwar111]

I think it's King rivers&hills

[Dux]

You all seem to be forgetting that KORAH was also made by a team of people, I could never have done it just by myself.

And it is true, the credits for Youngbloods should go to CptTripz.

[Uriyaca]

You all seem to be forgetting that KORAH was also made by a team of people, I could never have done it just by myself.

And it is true, the credits for Youngbloods should go to CptTripz.

Yes, I know, I said "for example, the Fire and Blood submod" . That means that all the categories should show all of the people who contributed.

And Dux, it was you who fixed the Enhanced version so it works for everyone but it was CptTripz who made it. So credits should show both of you, I believe.

And I say that KORAH wins this poll obviously since it is so well done but maybe in a month or so Fire and Blood would be even better

[complete noob:(]

Don't put everyone's name on the poll. Give them credit in the first post maybe, but everyone who worked on every mod should not be on the poll, because that is just way too long

[Mhaedros]

And the Trustworthy AI isn't really a "submod" (a real different gameplay experience) it is just a little fix to the Westeros AI.

A submod is anything that changes or edits the original mod Otherwise most of the submods of most mods would have to be called something else, like subsubmods or similar, and that'd just be stupid

[ButtSwag]

Fire and Blood is a great submod, but KORAH was a lot more finished, and I loved the story of each house. When Fire and Blood is complete, I would say it is on par with KORAH.

[SoulGamesInc]

Has to be Rivers&Hills with Fire&Blood looking to win next years vote, better add some more settlements fast if you don't want to lose your throne Dux.

[complete noob:(]

Has to be Rivers&Hills with Fire&Blood looking to win next years vote, better add some more settlements fast if you don't want to lose your throne Dux.

I don't think Dux is working on it anymore. He got recruited to help with the main mod.

[SoulGamesInc]

I don't think Dux is working on it anymore. He got recruited to help with the main mod.

Yeah it was a joke mate, i think doing any big change's on the Rivers&Hills Sub-Mod would be a little pointless until v1.0 is out.

[Gallus]

Voted for youngbloods because it's the best for hotseats and I only play hotseats.

[complete noob:(]

Voted for youngbloods because it's the best for hotseats and I only play hotseats.

I only play hotseats as well

But personally, I think that F&B is the best for hotseats. Badger has really balanced the AI, and given a good plot for epic hotseats.

[Uriyaca]

Voted for youngbloods because it's the best for hotseats and I only play hotseats.

I strongly disagree I truly think the KORAH is the best for hotseats, cause:

1) Stark is relatively problematic to play as, since he has no borders with rival factions. In the KORAH submod though, the Bolton vs. Stark war is super fun
2) Martell is also a problem and also quite boring, since they are bordering with 2 factions that are (in the books) absoloutly not in war with them. Again, Yronwood vs. Martell adds much to hotseats.
3) Arryn has much more options in the KORAH game - since it would be "not AsoIaF" if they attack Stark or Tully... however in KORAH it is more likely for them to attack these factions, since they are First Men factions
2) Stannis which is a small faction, is... lets say: a bit weak compared to other factions. When for example Renly and Stannis make peace it is rather dull, in my opinion.
4) Ironborn have much more lands and more fronts in KORAH then Greyjoys in Young Bloods.
5) The Andal/First Men war makes playing as Mudd in KORAH a more active faction then Tully, since Arryn and Gardener also join the war.
6) And the main reason I think that KORAH is better for hotseating is - cause every faction starts with it's own king which I think is great. Starting as dormant factions like Martell and Arryn in Young Bloods is boring.

And Acidroker - Young Bloods is enhanced with a few fixed files. And I think that Inarus's submod is awesome... I think that even creating the Westeros mod is copyrights infrigment, since they didn't ask George R. R. Martin if they could use the content of his book

[The Dornishman]

Blackfyres anyone? Dont get me wrong i love them all as KoRaH was very complete and had lots of cool features, fire and blood has great potential and already is really good, but somehow the blackfyre rebellion always draws me in

[What is Dead May Never Die]

I do apologize for forgetting blackfyre >.<

Sorry xD

[Lord AcidRocker]

KoRaH without a doubt. The others are all really fun and unique mods that could reach the potential of King of Rivers and Hills but they aren't finished, and thus shouldn't be in the same category as KoRaH. In fact, I think that's the only submod that is actually finished and complete (1.0)

Blackfyre rebellion needs a lot of work done
Fire and Blood is not finished
The Game of Thrones mod is really good and organized, but the whole copyright infringement show a lack of creativity and uniqueness compared to KoRaH
Trustworthy AI does not compare to the others

I haven't tried Youngbloods though

[Inarus]

The Game of Thrones mod is really good and organized, but the whole copyright infringement show a lack of creativity and uniqueness compared to KoRaH

Considering the amount of graphical work which was done using very little to no HBO features - the Menu borders , Radboud's User Interfaces (which I honestly think are the best UIs of Westeros 1.0 and its submods) - and the hard work which went into creating them I think "lack of creativity and uniqueness" is rather insulting...