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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-20723910

    A man with a knife has wounded 22 children - at least two of them seriously - and an adult at a primary school in central China.

    The attack happened at the gate of a school in Chenpeng village in Henan province.

    Police arrested a 36-year-old local man at the scene.

    Security at China's schools has been increased in recent years following a spate of similar knife attacks in which nearly 20 children have been killed.

    The BBC's John Sudworth in Shanghai says many of the attackers have been mentally disturbed men, prompting a debate about the effects of China's recent, rapid social change and the inability of an antiquated hospital system to cope with rising levels of mental illness.

    The Associated Press news agency quotes a police officer as saying that this latest attack happened as pupils were arriving for classes.

    The agency also quotes a county hospital administrator as saying that the man first attacked an elderly woman, then the children, before being overpowered by security guards.

    He added that two of the injured pupils had been transferred to better-equipped hospitals outside the county.
    Sad news, I wonder if knife-control is a problem in China, or perhaps they have a problem with their mentally ill? Anyone have any more information on the health system in China or crimes like this one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavroforos View Post
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-20723910



    Sad news, I wonder if knife-control is a problem in China, or perhaps they have a problem with their mentally ill? Anyone have any more information on the health system in China or crimes like this one?
    WTF ...

    Looks like China is getting the same sick twisted Mass murder culture from America.

    I can understand someone getting cocky with a gun and killing one person while brandishing like an (I have seen this happen a few times in my country), but premedited mass murder is another level of crazy.

    Something is wrong with America and it seems that it is going to contaminate China.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    WTF ...

    Looks like China is getting the same sick twisted Mass murder culture from America.

    I can understand someone getting cocky with a gun and killing one person while brandishing like an (I have seen this happen a few times in my country), but premedited mass murder is another level of crazy.

    Something is wrong with America and it seems that it is going to contaminate China.
    So, America contaminated China with these killings? whut?
    Last edited by Prosaic Visitant; December 15, 2012 at 01:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    WTF ...

    Looks like China is getting the same sick twisted Mass murder culture from America.

    I can understand someone getting cocky with a gun and killing one person while brandishing like an (I have seen this happen a few times in my country), but premedited mass murder is another level of crazy.

    Something is wrong with America and it seems that it is going to contaminate China.
    Before the founding of U.S., no crazy murderers existed? Americans invented mass murder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    WTF ...

    Looks like China is getting the same sick twisted Mass murder culture from America.

    I can understand someone getting cocky with a gun and killing one person while brandishing like an (I have seen this happen a few times in my country), but premedited mass murder is another level of crazy.

    Something is wrong with America and it seems that it is going to contaminate China.
    Yup China is known for its humanitarian history, right behind Rwanda and Nazi Germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacCarthy View Post
    Yup China is known for its humanitarian history, right behind Rwanda and Nazi Germany.
    Uh,I don't think such a sarcasm is suitable for this kind of tragedy.

    Politics is politics.There're much less death of such kind in China.

    During the 2008 Beijing Olympic and 2010 Shanghai Expo,knife-buying once needed one's identify card,and in most circumstances,what a mental-ill person could get is a small knife.

    Since 2004,only four such tragedies have taken place in Chinese universities,which in all had cost four person's lives.The murderers were all depressed or mentally-ill,and every murderer could only succeed in killing one man.The data is always convincing.
    Last edited by flyingcat; December 18, 2012 at 05:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flyingcat View Post
    There're much less death of such kind in China.
    Wow. Ignorance is bliss I guess. The Nazi Germany pales in comparison to the slaughters in China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCWife View Post
    Wow. Ignorance is bliss I guess. The Nazi Germany pales in comparison to the slaughters in China.
    I'm crazy about some people.Everything happens in China could remind them of CCP.
    Don't you see what I meant?I meant KNIFE-KILLING or GUN-SHOOTING events.
    Nazi Germany?Are you kidding?

    I guess ignorance is bliss.

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    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/police-resp...153441807.html

    Lucky Chinese kids just got wounded rather than gunned down. Chinese must be feeling thankful for their heavily regulated gun laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markas View Post
    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/police-resp...153441807.html

    Lucky Chinese kids just got wounded rather than gunned down. Chinese must be feeling thankful for their heavily regulated gun laws.
    If he had a gun there prob be 22+ dead children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavroforos View Post
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-20723910



    Sad news, I wonder if knife-control is a problem in China, or perhaps they have a problem with their mentally ill? Anyone have any more information on the health system in China or crimes like this one?
    Well when you have so many people it's just a matter of statistics. That's the harsh reality which is why in China they're pretty harsh on criminals to begin with.

    Good thing they had security guards to stop him before it got worse. Sad though that for the other cases like the shooting in America even in Elementary they'll have to start posting guards as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavroforos View Post
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-20723910



    Sad news, I wonder if knife-control is a problem in China, or perhaps they have a problem with their mentally ill? Anyone have any more information on the health system in China or crimes like this one?
    The answers are in the article for you: the majority of the attackers are mentally ill, and China's healthcare system is ill-equipped to deal with them.

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    I call . Everyone knows that a gun ban will keep people from going on mass-killing sprees.
    That is the flaw in your theory, gentlemen and I will not help you out of it. If you choose to deal with men by means of compulsion, do so. But you will discover that you need the voluntary co-operation of your victims, in many more ways than you can see at present. And your victims should discover that it is their own volition - which you cannot force - that makes you possible. I choose to be consistent and I will obey you in the manner you demand. Whatever you wish me to do, I will do it at the point of a gun. If you sentence me to jail, you will have to send armed men to carry me there - I will not volunteer to move. If you fine me, you will have to seize my property to collect the fine - I will not volunteer to pay it. If you believe that you have the right to force me - use your guns openly. I will not help you to disguise the nature of your action. -Hank Rearden

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whukid View Post
    I call . Everyone knows that a gun ban will keep people from going on mass-killing sprees.
    He didn't kill anyone. Wonder if he would have with a couple glocks and a semi-auto assault rifle.

    Anyone who doesn't think guns have more killing capacity than knives is not thinking straight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthias View Post
    He didn't kill anyone. Wonder if he would have with a couple glocks and a semi-auto assault rifle.

    Anyone who doesn't think guns have more killing capacity than knives is not thinking straight.
    As long as you live in an area with a hospital nearby, most gun wounds won't be fatal. With a knife, I can get close and slit someone's throat or stab them through the stomach or heart, which will be more likely to kill. I will be able to ensure it's a kill. In a fast-paced scenario of a shooting, I can't run and check if the guy who I just downed is dead.

    But I don't want this to become a guns versus knives argument.
    Last edited by EmperorBatman999; December 14, 2012 at 07:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorBatman999 View Post
    As long as you live in an area with a hospital nearby, most gun wounds won't be fatal. With a knife, I can get close and slit someone's throat or stab them through the stomach or heart, which will be more likely to kill.
    No....just.... no. If you're going to seriously argue that knives have a greater killing capacity than guns, you might as well put the clown nose on right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorBatman999 View Post
    As long as you live in an area with a hospital nearby, most gun wounds won't be fatal. With a knife, I can get close and slit someone's throat or stab them through the stomach or heart, which will be more likely to kill. I will be able to ensure it's a kill. In a fast-paced scenario of a shooting, I can't run and check if the guy who I just downed is dead.

    But I don't want this to become a guns versus knives argument.

    Yes, yes lets all wax philosophical about hypothetical knife take downs. Meanwhile, in the real world, 22 wounded kids vs 26 killed, including 20 kids. A grim real world experiment, and it makes a strong case for a lack of access to guns. My opinions on the matter may be shifting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmperorBatman999 View Post
    As long as you live in an area with a hospital nearby, most gun wounds won't be fatal. With a knife, I can get close and slit someone's throat or stab them through the stomach or heart, which will be more likely to kill. I will be able to ensure it's a kill. In a fast-paced scenario of a shooting, I can't run and check if the guy who I just downed is dead.

    But I don't want this to become a guns versus knives argument.
    You've essentially made it one with those ridiculous claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthias View Post
    He didn't kill anyone. Wonder if he would have with a couple glocks and a semi-auto assault rifle.

    Anyone who doesn't think guns have more killing capacity than knives is not thinking straight.


    Well-said.

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    Even after this horrible act I can't imagine people honestly saying "now is not the time to talk about gun laws." Americans need to take a hard look at what's going to happen next.


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