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    Default Different faces - There are beards, long hair in the game!

    EDIT: The screenshots of Rome, Carthage and Macedon - soldiers have the same face and shaved. I asked if it will be changed. In the post below Jack Lusted answered my question. Responded positively. Therefore I edited first post.


    EDIT 2: I am happy, Greeks have beards!




    It isn't true that all the Romans shaved clean. Although most of the Romans in the time of the republic didn't have facial hair, but sometimes it happens the Romans with facial hair.


    1. REPUBLICAN ROMANS

    An example is Titus Quinctius Flamininus. He had a beard and mustache. Titus Quinctius Flamininus (c. 229 BC - c 174 BC) was a Roman politician and general instrumental in the Roman conquest of Greece. In 197 BC he defeated Philip at the Battle of Cynoscephalae in Thessaly, the Roman Legions making the Macedonian phalanx obsolete in the process. Coin with him:







    2. HELLENISTICS


    Among the nation Hellenistic facial hair was more common than the Romans. Alexander Warriors were clean shaved, but after Alexander in Hellenistic states many warriors wore beards and mustache. Hellenistic kings often clean shaved, but not all. The following examples.


    Hellenistic soldier with beard:






    Philip V (238-179 BC) was King of Macedon from 221 to 179 BC. Philip's reign was principally marked by an unsuccessful struggle with the emerging power of Rome. Titus Quinctius Flamininus defeated Philip at the Battle of Cynoscephalae in Thessaly. Philip was attractive and charismatic as a young man. He had a beard and mustache:






    Perseus (c. 212 – 166 BC) was the last king (Basileus) of the Antigonid dynasty, who ruled the successor state in Macedon created upon the death of Alexander the Great. He also has the distinction of being the last of the line, after losing the Battle of Pydna on 22 June 168 BC; subsequently Macedon came under Roman rule. He had a beard and mustache:







    Other style of facial hair.
    Ptolemy IX Soter II was king of Egypt three times, from 116 BC to 110 BC, 109 BC to 107 BC and 88 BC to 81 BC, with intervening periods ruled by his brother, Ptolemy X Alexander. He had a beard without mustache:






    Hellenistic men often have curly hair. Note that for each coin or a fresco from the Hellenistic period men have curly hair:



    Here is a reconstruction of the face of Philip II Macedonian:

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    3. ROMAN EMPIRE




    Roman legionaries from the end of the 1st century AD very often have beards and mustaches:



    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Last edited by KLAssurbanipal; August 01, 2013 at 09:15 AM.

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    Default Re: Different faces (Beards, mustaches, long hair etc.)

    The current faces are all placeholder and are minor variations on a theme. There will be a lot more variation in the final game.
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    Default Re: Different faces (Beards, mustaches, long hair etc.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lusted View Post
    The current faces are all placeholder and are minor variations on a theme. There will be a lot more variation in the final game.
    Will there be any hardcore limitation on the placeholder and minor variations such as faces, shield or clothes colours or will it possible to create a near infinite amount of variations for one unit ?

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    Default Re: Different faces (Beards, mustaches, long hair etc.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lusted View Post
    The current faces are all placeholder and are minor variations on a theme. There will be a lot more variation in the final game.
    Thanks Jack. Very good news
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    Default Re: Different faces (Beards, mustaches, long hair etc.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lusted View Post
    The current faces are all placeholder and are minor variations on a theme. There will be a lot more variation in the final game.
    this is good news

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    Default Re: Different faces (Beards, mustaches, long hair etc.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lusted View Post
    The current faces are all placeholder and are minor variations on a theme. There will be a lot more variation in the final game.
    A nerds wet dream.

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    Default Re: Different faces (Beards, mustaches, long hair etc.)

    Thanks Jack.
    Will we see facial hair on Hellenistic warriors?

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    Default Re: Different faces (Beards, mustaches, long hair etc.) - Jack Lusted's answer

    Awesome! A lot more variation is much appreciate!


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    Default Re: Different faces (Beards, mustaches, long hair etc.) - Jack Lusted's answer

    Yes, I hope we will see short beards with mustaches (Carthaginians, Macedonians, Seleucids, some Romans), braids, long hair, curly hair etc.

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    Default Re: Different faces (Beards, mustaches, long hair etc.) - Jack Lusted's answer

    From The Previews alone, I can see about 2 Shield Model Variants with 3 Texture Variants each, and a Single Shield Model Variant with 5 Texture Variant.

    And, I've seen a Shogun 2 Variety mod Crammed about 9 Model Variant in a Same Unit Part. Rome 2 should be able to have a great unit appearance variety.

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    Default Re: Different faces (Beards, mustaches, long hair etc.) - Jack Lusted's answer

    The screenshots of Rome, Carthage and Macedon - soldiers have the same face and shaved.
    I asked if it will be changed. In the post below Jack Lusted answered my question. Responded positively.
    Therefore I edited first post.

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    Default Re: Different faces (Beards, mustaches, long hair etc.) - Jack Lusted's answer

    Quote Originally Posted by King Louise Assurbanipal View Post
    The screenshots of Rome, Carthage and Macedon - soldiers have the same face and shaved.
    I asked if it will be changed. In the post below Jack Lusted answered my question. Responded positively.
    Therefore I edited first post.
    but he did not confirme they will have beards and moustaches

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    Default Re: Different faces (Beards, mustaches, long hair etc.) - Jack Lusted's answer

    You couldn't have figured this out yourself, given that it's still, what, pre-alpha?

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    Default Re: Different faces (Beards, mustaches, long hair etc.) - Jack Lusted's answer

    To be honest, the only one I was impressed by is Arverni. It's good there will be more variation. A shame though the Romans were as uniformed as they were. Not to mention the Macedon colors.. doesn't leave me much hope.

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    Default Re: Different faces (Beards, mustaches, long hair etc.) - Jack Lusted's answer

    Quote Originally Posted by sleepyx732 View Post
    To be honest, the only one I was impressed by is Arverni. It's good there will be more variation. A shame though the Romans were as uniformed as they were. Not to mention the Macedon colors.. doesn't leave me much hope.
    The Romans weren't uniformal at this time or any time, really. Even after the Marian Reforms soldiers equipment still varied. It has been stated numerous times that faction colours will make a return. Purple for Carthage, red for Rome, black for Macedon, blue for the Iceni, and green for the Averni.

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    Default Re: Different faces (Beards, mustaches, long hair etc.) - Jack Lusted's answer

    It was common for leaders to depict themselves as the gods-it doesn't mean that they actualy had beards. This is Pyrrhos depicted as Zeus, I suspect that the Roman leaders at least may have been depicting Mars.

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    Default Re: Different faces (Beards, mustaches, long hair etc.) - Jack Lusted's answer

    Seleucid warrior head

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    Default Re: Different faces (Beards, mustaches, long hair etc.) - Jack Lusted's answer

    Nice, but why they don't have beards?
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    This unit based on this pic:

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    but cataphracts have deleted beards. Masked helmet has deleted beard, too.

    Please, fix it.

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    Default Re: Different faces (Beards, mustaches, long hair etc.) - Jack Lusted's answer

    Quote Originally Posted by Antiochus View Post
    Nice, but why they don't have beards?
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    This unit based on this pic:

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    but cataphracts have deleted beards. Masked helmet has deleted beard, too.

    Please, fix it.

    you literally have to look a few posts higher to get your answer... did you even read?!

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    Default Re: Different faces (Beards, mustaches, long hair etc.) - Jack Lusted's answer

    Quote Originally Posted by Toho View Post
    you literally have to look a few posts higher to get your answer... did you even read?!
    Beginning to suspect he is a troll.

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