Would Homosexuals Be More Accepted If They Were Celibate?

[Exarch]

it seems much of the apparent "hate" is directed towards ppl who indulge in 'same sex activities', so what if homosexuals agreed to be celibate? at least with respect towards ing each other? i think if that were the case, the whole of society would be more supportive of homosexual marriage and the like.

after all, there's nothing wrong with 'love' if it's platonic and celibate.

Discuss

[Carl Jung was right]

What's there to discuss? This whole subject is ludicrous. Why does it matter if they're celibate or not? It isn't sexual activity itself that homophobes are protesting, but the fact that it's between two members of the same gender. If anything it's the tendency of prudish individuals to go great lengths in sticking their nose into others' private affairs which I find appalling.

[Exarch]

What's there to discuss? This whole subject is ludicrous. Why does it matter if they're celibate or not? It isn't sexual activity itself that homophobes are protesting, but the fact that it's between two members of the same gender. If anything it's the tendency of prudish individuals to go great lengths in sticking their nose into others' private affairs which I find appalling.

we can all accept that homosexual sex is disgusting, all societies accept that it's disgusting-some more so than others- so homosexuals should feel priviliged that they're not being stoned to death like in some other countries.
they ought to repay society's kindness by having the will and fortitude and moral standing to desist from immoral activites-in this case, sodomy.

[removeduser_4536284751384]

we can all accept that homosexual sex is disgusting, all societies accept that it's disgusting-some more so than others- so homosexuals should feel priviliged that they're not being stoned to death like in some other countries.

There is nothing even slightly disgusting about gay or lesbian sex. As a straight person, I could walk in on a gay couple having sex, and my reaction would be the same as if they were straight. Which would be surprise and immediately leaving...

So you are going to argue that loving a fellow human being is immoral?

[Exarch]

There is nothing even slightly disgusting about gay or lesbian sex. As a straight person, I could walk in on a gay couple having sex, and my reaction would be the same as if they were straight. Which would be surprise and immediately leaving...

same, just as i could walk in on someone smoking or doing coke and have the same reaction, and like smoking and doing blow, all those activities are amoral, show weakness of character and harmful to one's health.

How can love be immoral?

love isn't immoral, that's why i said it was ok for homosexuals to love each other-so long as it's done platonically. homosexual sex on the other hand is immoral-like, fire and brimstone immoral.

[removeduser_4536284751384]

love isn't immoral, that's why i said it was ok for homosexuals to love each other-so long as it's done platonically. homosexual sex on the other hand is immoral-like, fire and brimstone immoral.

Why?

[Garbarsardar]

you're being ludicrous,
we can all accept that homosexual sex is disgusting, all societies accept that it's disgusting-some more so than others- so homosexuals should feel priviliged that they're not being stoned to death like in some other countries.
they ought to repay society's kindness by having the will and fortitude and moral standing to desist from immoral activites-in this case, sodomy.

You surely mean "male homosexual sex". Because judging from the number of porn movies featuring females fondling one other that cater to a large and enthusiastic audience of men, we have to assume that homosexual sex is often appealing to men.

If your disgust stemmed from a genuine evolutionary (or social) protection mechanism, you would be disgusted by female homosexual encounters as well; if you are, you belong to these rare exceptions, males who upon seeing two women having sex they think: "damn, they should be stoned".

[Exarch]

You surely mean "male homosexual sex". Because judging from the number of porn movies featuring females fondling one other that cater to a large and enthusiastic audience of men, we have to assume that homosexual sex is often appealing to men.

If your disgust stemmed from a genuine evolutionary (or social) protection mechanism, you would be disgusted by female homosexual encounters as well; if you are, you belong to these rare exceptions, males who upon seeing two women having sex they think: "damn, they should be stoned".

lesbian sex is pleasing to the gods, and so it is tolerated-and even encouraged

and besides according to the church, females are inherently flawed and sinful and so it is to be expected that they, being weaker morally, are prone to temptations of the flesh.

[Exarch]

You are aware of what Plato was doing with his students, right?

indeed and look how greek society collapsed because of the rampant homosexuality.

And i ask why you think that. Incest is, of course, not good, but i cannot find a reason why male homosexual intercourse is bad.

well first of all it is amoral, secondly it leads to all sorts of health problems due to sodomy, and finally, it is unManly and this liberal attitude towards homosexual sex has led to the creation of absolute horrors of modern day life such as hipsters and justine bieber.

[fkizz]

I believe an emotional romantic affair between two men is even more shocking to someone prudish than men having a sexual affair.

[Adamat]

Please tell me how that is more immoral than straight sex.

[Exarch]

Why?

Please tell me how that is more immoral than straight sex.

platonic homosexual love can be a beautiful thing, but like incest, it can be disgusting if sex is involved.

[Garbarsardar]

platonic homosexual love can be a beautiful thing, but like incest, it can be disgusting if sex is involved.

You are aware of what Plato was doing with his students, right?

[Col. Tartleton]

You are aware of what Plato was doing with his students, right?

"Wrestling"

Anyhow, to attack address the OP, No.

Silly premise. Any good friendship is a platonic love. I have "borderline gay" feelings for several people. It isn't gay though, thus I'm not gay or bisexual or whatever. At this point in my life, just chicks. Why should gay men be limited to only having close friendships?

Homosexuality would be more accepted if we all got naked like sane people and were expected to :wub: to some gay porn in an educational setting.

Instead sex ed forces us to watch pregnancy stuff. That's so much worse.

I'd rather just watch a bunch of porn in a room full of my peers of both genders. Guy on girl, girl on guy, girl on girl, guy on guy, trans on girl, girl on trans, guy on trans, trans on guy, trans on trans. Blacks, whites, Asians. All that . Take notes. Do some research.

Really steamy romantic glamour porn with the good surreal lighting. Keep it clean so that no one gets freaked out by urination, lactation, and defecation. Leave that for advanced courses.

Sex ed should be like drivers ed. Something you do at 18 instead of 16 so no one goes to jail. Hands on experience with educators and peer review. If you know what I mean. Practice makes perfect. We'd be a far healthier society.

Try some , if you don't like it, don't do it again. If you like it, stop being so gay and have sex with a dude already. Man up.

Then we can do drug education.

[Exarch]

"Wrestling"

Anyhow, to attack address the OP, No.

Silly premise. Any good friendship is a platonic love. I have "borderline gay" feelings for several people. It isn't gay though, thus I'm not gay or bisexual or whatever. At this point in my life, just chicks. Why should gay men be limited to only having close friendships?

Homosexuality would be more accepted if we all got naked like sane people and were expected to :wub: to some gay porn in an educational setting.

Instead sex ed forces us to watch pregnancy stuff. That's so much worse.

I'd rather just watch a bunch of porn in a room full of my peers of both genders. Guy on girl, girl on guy, girl on girl, guy on guy, trans on girl, girl on trans, guy on trans, trans on guy, trans on trans. Blacks, whites, Asians. All that . Take notes. Do some research.

Really steamy romantic glamour porn with the good surreal lighting. Keep it clean so that no one gets freaked out by urination, lactation, and defecation. Leave that for advanced courses.

Sex ed should be like drivers ed. Something you do at 18 instead of 16 so no one goes to jail. Hands on experience with educators and peer review. If you know what I mean. Practice makes perfect. We'd be a far healthier society.

Try some , if you don't like it, don't do it again. If you like it, stop being so gay and have sex with a dude already. Man up.

Then we can do drug education.

col. tartleton
i'm disappointed in you; promoting society destroying concepts like defecation and sex. that is exactly what homosexual sex involves: defecation and poo and smearing of faeces on genitals. health problems in that case are fairly obvious.

and if i were you, i'd seek help about those homosexual urges for sex. try and keep it platonic. that's the spirit

[Garbarsardar]

platonic homosexual love can be a beautiful thing, but like incest, it can be disgusting if sex is involved.

And by the by, I hate to break the news to you, but Plato, by divine love (as opposed to vulgar love), meant the love that a man can experience for the intellect of another man. According to our good old misogynistic Plato it was impossible for divine love to exist between a man and a woman; that would require the woman to possess intellect. Unthinkable.

The term Platonic love comes from a much later time coined probably by the wife of King Carles I. If you see Charles, you will understand why the poor lady did not want to have much sex.

[Adamat]

platonic homosexual love can be a beautiful thing, but like incest, it can be disgusting if sex is involved.

And i ask why you think that. Incest is, of course, not good, but i cannot find a reason why male homosexual intercourse is bad.

[Adamat]

So that means you are actually abusing every woman you ever had, have or will have, since they are 'prone to temptations of the flesh'. Good luck being a rapist with your reasoning.

[Adamat]

Enlighten me about these health problems. Also, if JB is such an abomination, i wonder why he makes in a day what you won't even make in a lifetime. And i don't even like Justin.

And i think it is quite unmanly to blindly believe the church without even using your own brain.

[Exarch]

Enlighten me about these health problems. Also, if JB is such an abomination, i wonder why he makes in a day what you won't even make in a lifetime. And i don't even like Justin.

And i think it is quite unmanly to blindly believe the church without even using your own brain.

the church is a sick institution where those who fail to contain their own homosexual urges end up preying on the young. it is a sad state of affairs.
dont they know we live in an era of fleshlights?

similarly, homosexuals outside the church may encounter health problems in the form of nature's wrath ie talking with a lisp and decreased strength in their wrists and an unhealthy obsession with neil patrick harris.