Quick Question about the Dragon Being used

[INSUBRE]

Just something to point out, about the welsh dragon, the red one being used for Arthurs faction.
1. Is that a Wyvern or a Dragon
2. I thought Celtic dragons were more wyrm like, without wings as well.
3. is it only on Arthurs shield or is it a faction symbol
Is the dragon supposed to be the red one from the Vortigiern tale or is it supposed to be more associated with the 'Pendragon' side of things. I can't remember if the vortigiern dragon had wings or not, i think it did, thats why its strange. anyway, whats the faction symbol for the Saxons? You could always make it a white dragon or a saxon Character with a White dragon on it, sort of the nemesis of Arthur.

P.S: i know its proably to late, but just wondering. keep up the good work

[Agraes]

Our red dragon is taken from the Tregor flag, the Tregor is a province of Brittany:


Here some information about it:

Like the flag of Bigouden Country it was designed by Bernard Le Brun, and, according to the accompanying information sheets, approved by the Breton Vexillological Society on Sunday 10 November 1996; confirmed on Sunday 16 March 1997 and officially hoisted for the first time on 29 March 1998 at Trézelan.

As I understand it, the dragon mentioned in the text is technically a wyvern - a heraldic beast which I have seen described as having "the front half of a dragon and the rear half of a serpent"; or alternatively as "a winged two-legged dragon with a barbed tail".

"The red dragon is the emblem of saint Tudwal, founder and patron-saint of Trégor. It can also represent King Arthur who, according to legend, was born in Trygger (in Breton Treger) in British Cornwall and whose tomb is shown in the iconography and the legends with such an emblem. The base of the flag is a simplified version of the flag of saint Yves, well-known in the area. A banner with the dragon accompanying king Arthur can be seen on a bas-relief in the romanesque church of Perros-Guirec (Perroz-Gireg).

So it has Arthurian connexions, even if the design itself is somewhat recent.

It's very near to the Wessex dragon:


I decided to choose it because Arthur is linked to the red dragon, you mentionned both Merlin's prophecy and the "Pendragon" and you are right - Arthur's emblem in the myth is said to be the red dragon. The draco enseign was also widely used by Britons, inherited from Romans and Sarmatians, mainly as a cavalry enseign ; and it has been suggested that Pendragon was meaning something like "cavalry commander".

Its adoption by the saxon kingdom of Wessex is more late. Our Saxons use a tree as emblem, and in 481 AD, Wessex wasn't yet founded. Wessex is founded in 508 AD by Cerdic, and Cerdic himself bears a britonic name, it has been suggested that he was a foederati leader of mixed saxon and british birth. Wessex will extand to what was more or less Dumnonia/Dyfneint (our Arthurian faction), except Cornwall that remains Britonic ; and they probably adopted the dragon as a battle enseign in contact with the Britons.