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    So... Student suspended from John Jay HS for refusing to wear a mandatory RFID tag (sic!) has had her expulsion order temporarily suspended:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20461752

    Yes, her resons do sound rather oddball for sure, but the wider issue for me is that, when searching for "RFID", "Texas" and "schools" all I got were results from sites like dailypaul and InfoWars but somehow there seems to be little debate in the media on the fact that schools exist in the US which force their students to wear tracking devices at school.

    Is this cool? What do you think? What could be possible reasons for compulsory wearing of tags by students (I know what official ones are) and do those resons justify what can only look like a pretty 1984-esque concept?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brick Top View Post
    Yes, her resons do sound rather oddball for sure
    Why don't you just say that she refuses because it sounds like the mark of the Beast of the Book of Revelations ? I know that Christian bashing is SOP, but Her reason is valid.

    Good for her for refuse, really a creepy trend at work here, a lot of people are pushing for this so it might happen earlier than we think we all the CCTV and face-recognition technology at hand cross referencing someones whereabouts will be easier than ever in places like the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    Why don't you just say that she refuses because it sounds like the mark of the Beast of the Book of Revelations ? I know that Christian bashing is SOP, but Her reason is valid.

    Good for her for refuse, really a creepy trend at work here, a lot of people are pushing for this so it might happen earlier than we think we all the CCTV and face-recognition technology at hand cross referencing someones whereabouts will be easier than ever in places like the US.
    Indeed, all forms of chiping goes against Christian beliefs, though technically Mark of the Beast would be chip in the body, but it's good that people start protesting already now before the government gets any ideas of actually chiping people in the body. There already exists some people that actually got a chip in their arm which is really creepy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by |Sith|Galvanized Iron View Post
    Indeed, all forms of chiping goes against Christian beliefs, though technically Mark of the Beast would be chip in the body, but it's good that people start protesting already now before the government gets any ideas of actually chiping people in the body. There already exists some people that actually got a chip in their arm which is really creepy.
    It is not just about it being in your body, it is about you being required to have said mark for doing anything from purchasing food, attending school, medical care etc.

    Flashy name aside it describes a world were any of your movements and actions are tracked and monitored, and your privacy don't exist. Such a world describe in Orwell 1984 is what most would agree as being a living hell.

    As for the town being run by Democrats, we can all agree that stupid is by-partisan. Someone could probably find a privacy breaching Republican law
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    It is not just about it being in your body, it is about you being required to have said mark for doing anything from purchasing food, attending school, medical care etc.

    Flashy name aside it describes a world were any of your movements and actions are tracked and monitored, and your privacy don't exist. Such a world describe in Orwell 1984 is what most would agree as being a living hell.

    As for the town being run by Democrats, we can all agree that stupid is by-partisan. Someone could probably find a privacy breaching Republican law
    The Bible mentions a mark that is physically attached to the person so either tattoo or chip under skin. This badge is easy to throw away and it's not attached to the hand or forehead either, but I agree that if she feels that it is the Mark of the Beast then it is her right to refuse it, everyone should have the right to act according to their own conscience.
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    San Antonio and Houston seem to have the most draconian schools. I don't understand it. This is part of a trend of criminalizing student behavior and having a much larger police presence in schools which is highly unnecessary.
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    Supposedly it is meant to count student attendance.

    I wonder when teachers there lost the ability to count.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big War Bird View Post
    Supposedly it is meant to count student attendance.

    I wonder when teachers there lost the ability to count.
    Or Parents the ability to kick their kids out of the basement to attend school.
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    Before this turns into another "let's bash Texas thread" I'd like to point out that San Antonio and Houston are run by DEMOCRATS. So what else would you expect from a party that adheres to socialism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by B. W. View Post
    Before this turns into another "let's bash Texas thread" I'd like to point out that San Antonio and Houston are run by DEMOCRATS. So what else would you expect from a party that adheres to socialism?
    Yes, before this turns into another "let's bash Texas thread", lets turn this in another democrats are evil socialists/almost communists.
    I wonder what excuses they have used to allow this to be legal. Treating students as dogs. Congratulations, perhaps soon they´ll become dogs

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    Quote Originally Posted by B. W. View Post
    Before this turns into another "let's bash Texas thread" I'd like to point out that San Antonio and Houston are run by DEMOCRATS. So what else would you expect from a party that adheres to socialism?
    Yes, before this turns into one false stereotype lets turn this into another false stereotype that you like better, right?
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    Her reasons for not wanting to are , but the issue of schools forcing students to wear tracking devices is valid.

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    On principle, I'm against tracking either students or workers.

    If you have to, there should be some way to anonymize it and erase the data within a set period, and only authorized personnel having access to the information as and when it's necessary.
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    Seems legit. I for one welcome the overlords of our ritaline dazed and chipped, Bieber hairdue unisex children.
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    It would protect teachers and schools from false sexual allegations as well as apprehend anyone who started a fight or seriously hurt someone in a fight.

    Who the cares, they are kids and they have no rights to resist tracking on campus.

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    This is an eerie quote: "Mr Whitehead said student tagging and locating projects were the first step in producing a "compliant citizenry"."

    and I thought Texas was the state of freedom?
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    Whatever gave you that idea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    Whatever gave you that idea?
    doesn't Texas see itself as the land of independence, the land of the rugged individualists with limited government?
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    countries and states say a lot of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brick Top View Post
    So... Student suspended from John Jay HS for refusing to wear a mandatory RFID tag (sic!) has had her expulsion order temporarily suspended:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20461752

    Yes, her resons do sound rather oddball for sure, but the wider issue for me is that, when searching for "RFID", "Texas" and "schools" all I got were results from sites like dailypaul and InfoWars but somehow there seems to be little debate in the media on the fact that schools exist in the US which force their students to wear tracking devices at school.

    Is this cool? What do you think? What could be possible reasons for compulsory wearing of tags by students (I know what official ones are) and do those resons justify what can only look like a pretty 1984-esque concept?

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    There is none, since it's wearing inside school, not outside. Inside school they could just install cameras to locate every kids, unless schools in USA are as big as national parks.


    It's utterly useless and the only possible reason I can think of for this is some companies managed to convince school to buy RFID crap for their own benefits.

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