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    I just bought the game again, played it for like 12 hours straight didnt even relize.... anyway, im having alot of problems.

    Ill have a huge good army in campaign and when battling, its like all my units when I tell them to go somewhere they run the opposite way and like 2 minutes later they will move there its like they try to rotate around and around and then move, and then also its like all my units automatically just croud together into one big circle and my horses are stupid and kill all my own guys, same for elephants if i have any.

    I dont know why but im having alot of battle troubles, its like I cant control anyone. Also, how come I cant have armies past like 900 in campaign, it fills up all the way. And other countries armies fill up larger but I cant merge to make it even bigger.

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    I dont quite get what you are saying in with that first problem there. Are you saying that your units arent moving where you want them to? Well that shouldnt happen, you probably did something wrong, i dont know though.

    Well you can have really big armies with thousands of men, you just need to have the unit scale higher up and recruit the units that have more men in them. Also you cant have more than 20 units in one army.

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    oo so change the unit scale in the video settings to huge?
    What i meant about the moving was, like every time I try to move units, its like they all walk around in circles then like a minute or two later they end up where u want them to but like facing the opposite way or vertical instead of horizontal. I remember osmehting like I could move some units by clicking something so when i commanded them to move some key would create a green box to make them move in a certain formation so they will move forward how I want htem to but I dont remember what key or how to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXx-Tricky-xXx
    oo so change the unit scale in the video settings to huge?
    What i meant about the moving was, like every time I try to move units, its like they all walk around in circles then like a minute or two later they end up where u want them to but like facing the opposite way or vertical instead of horizontal. I remember osmehting like I could move some units by clicking something so when i commanded them to move some key would create a green box to make them move in a certain formation so they will move forward how I want htem to but I dont remember what key or how to do it.
    Well you probably aren't doing something right, usually i just click and drag where i want them to be, or just click, really simple.

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    Isn't there a formation tool thingy in the bottom right hand corner which allows your to change formations, I thing it also allows your to move large bodies of men and or horses in formation as well.

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    I mean isnt there something that when you move say a grp of units ahead that you can click something that has like a green box that will make the units walk there, it like drags the green box. I remember this, but not how to do it. Because most of the time when I order a grp of units to move ahead they rotate or move there but face a different direction. Because right now I have a unit grp selected and I click move them ahead they go there but the facing is all screwed up because for some reason they like to rotate 45 degrees either way or around that.

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    If I remember correctly, to do what you say, you select the units you want, grouped or ungrouped, select the spot you want them to go to and hold down the right mouse button and drag them into a line facing the direction you want. You can rotate using the <> keys on your keyboard.
    I think that is what you want. Can't thing of what else it could be, but if I'm wrong plz tell me.
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    it happens sometimes. try getting the latest patches.
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    yeah, that was it lol. Not sure where i got green from though, althought is there a way to make all my army charge forward at the enemy without having to click each grp individually and have them attack the guys ahead, it takes forever, and if i have whole army selected and attack, the whole amry grps up and attacks that one spot, thats basically my only trouble atm.

    I have like 1.3 atm or something I can probably update it soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xXx-Tricky-xXx
    I have like 1.3 atm or something I can probably update it soon.
    If you just bought it from the store, you should have 1.5. If not, download and install the update to 1.5, ASAP. It basically removes a whole truck load of bugs.

    If you tell a group of units to go to a spot by right-clicking on the spot, they will all go to that spot, and pack in as tightly and miserably as they can. If you want them to stay in formation, you need to use the alt-right-click, right-click-drag,or other formation-friendly commands.

    If you have a number of units in formation and you ALT-Right-click to move them near a border, so that in order to stay in formation, some units would have to be out of bounds, the out of bounds units will move to the OPPOSITE boundary line, which is almost always the worst possible thing they could do.

    If you have a unit or group of units that you want to move, and you right-click at a nearby point; the computer figures the direction from a center point of the existing position of the formation to the point you clicked. Then the computer orients your units so that they are facing parallel to this line. For short moves, it is almost impossible to move formations (or even single units) short distances and have them face the correct way. Use another method.

    Units have some milling about that they do in order to go somewhere, The larger the unit, typically the more milling. I think it is supposed to be that way.

    Larger unit settings will get more men into your army; but it will also do the same for the A.I. You and the A.I. are both limited to 20 units per stack. Want more men in your stack? Do what the A.I. does and fill it up with Peasants.

    To get your front line to engage the enemy front line without a lot of clicking, you can select them all and then alt-right-click a point that you believe will be just behind the enemy front line, just in front of the middle of your line, at the time that your front line gets there. So, if the enemy front line is marching towards your front line, and you have about 10 seconds of marching left before the lines meet, then alt-right-click just in front of the enemy front line. This point will be behind the enemy front line by the time your troops meet the enemy troops. (Personally, I use the individual assignment method that you say you do not like.)

    Hope that helps.
    Last edited by NobleNick; August 03, 2006 at 05:19 PM.

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    Click on the bit the arrow is pointing to in the pic below to get the formations.You need to "group" the ubits before hand by high lighting then press G


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    And sometmies the units don't seem to like what you say, it happens sometimes even with the most recent patch. Playing TE, my elephants get stuck in cities all the time. I will tell them to move somewhere, and they all scatter in random directions, then they regroup, then they scatter again. Eventually they regroup at a place closer to where I told them, but they don't like doing what I tell them.

    That doesn't mean that I can't destroy an entire full stack of Romans with one unit of elephants and some backup infantry, but it is annoying when units get confused. I'm not sure what causes it, and it is fairly rare, but it can ruin a battle when your best soldiers suddenly try to run through the enemy instead of fighting, or etc. I think it is just a bug with the unit movement.

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    Well... you said it all in the threads name

    But seriously speaking. If you take a bunch of units and then have them move only a bit from where they are currently standing they might face the entirely wrong way because the game tries to point them in the direction they were last moved. But with small distances and large groups of units it might be hard to set the right way.

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    I always have troubles`with the moving system, but you eventually find solutions to problems. You just have to click in the right spot, and ususally you have to pause the game and click a few places to find the right one.

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    Don't use groups, period!
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