[SUBMOD IN DEVELOPMENT] 0.53 Realism

**mortem et gloria** · November 21, 2012, 10:35 AM

Hi guys I am currently doing some small alterations to the current version 0.53 and fire and blood where three main attributes are found.

1. More troops at the start closely simulating the fighting for forces available I.e the Starks banners are roughly 20k lannisters are 40k the reach 60k storm lands 20 30k etc.

2. A more realistic ai, in which certain factions will automatically go to specific targets (they already do this to a point but I will increase this to commit factions to wipe out others

3. Having the seven, old gods etc able to call a crusade to invite other factions to join the carnage. I would therefore have 2new unplayable factions to facilitate this.

If there is anything you would like to see shout me out and I'll do what I can.

I am also currently making the map for the whole world as far as Ashi.
And I am also nearly completed with the patch sub to blood and fire..

I apologise in advance for bad spelling in this post i am currently on my iPad and the auto correct is ridicules.

**HannibalExMachina** · November 21, 2012, 10:50 AM

sounds interesting, could you think about a more specifc title

?

**mortem et gloria** · November 21, 2012, 10:55 AM

Not really guess we could call it caedendi PRO GLace et ignem just to confuse people more.

Or just carnage westeros

**DiegoLima** · November 21, 2012, 01:31 PM

Mortem, if you're planning to use the idea that Viserys managed to bring Drogo to Westeros, you should think about how you'll manage that.

Like in the books, for Viserys, Daenerys was a possession, and he sold her for an army.

I believe he should be an unmarried King, with Daenerys as a real woman, married with Drogo, and Rhaego alive, but still child.

Or maybe you can go further in the plots already explored in the books, and imagine something like Doran made his move a little bit before, and gave his support to Viserys, marrying Arianne to him and helping him to move back to Westeros. This could make Viserys married with Arianne, and Daenerys married with Drogo, with Rhaego alive but child, and no heir for the faction till you manage to have a son with Arianne. Or maybe you can try to make an ancillary to let the player choose who'll be his heir.

If you need some help that i could give, just tell me.

**mortem et gloria** · November 21, 2012, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by DiegoLima

Mortem, if you're planning to use the idea that Viserys managed to bring Drogo to Westeros, you should think about how you'll manage that.

Like in the books, for Viserys, Daenerys was a possession, and he sold her for an army.

I believe he should be an unmarried King, with Daenerys as a real woman, married with Drogo, and Rhaego alive, but still child.

Or maybe you can go further in the plots already explored in the books, and imagine something like Doran made his move a little bit before, and gave his support to Viserys, marrying Arianne to him and helping him to move back to Westeros. This could make Viserys married with Arianne, and Daenerys married with Drogo, with Rhaego alive but child, and no heir for the faction till you manage to have a son with Arianne. Or maybe you can try to make an ancillary to let the player choose who'll be his heir.

If you need some help that i could give, just tell me.

If truth be told I don't like viserys and was going to have droog as king with viserys none existent I was going to have Danny represented twice once as his wife (not in game unfortunately ) and the other as a priest but with a new skin for on the map, with a conversion to the new faith of mother (though she got this when drogo died I will change history to say it was viserys who died and caused the spawn to release.)
To show how the people of westeros accept her and her new husband....... Or I just have her as a general with drogo dead and viserys dead and a body guard of dragons maybe just 3 powerful ones and then have a already positioned force for argon at least then I can put Stanis on the wall where he belongs

**stefan1921** · November 21, 2012, 03:43 PM

Don't make Dany a priest. Just keep her as a wife. She wouldn't leave the Khalasar and go through westeros preaching and converting, she would stay with Drogo.

I don't know how good you are at coding, but I guess you could make two factions, Khal Drogo as one and Targaryen as the other, and when Khal Drogo takes King's Landing he gifts it to Viserys (who only starts with Evening Hall and a few sellswords).

I don't know.

**mortem et gloria** · November 21, 2012, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by stefan1921

Don't make Dany a priest. Just keep her as a wife. She wouldn't leave the Khalasar and go through westeros preaching and converting, she would stay with Drogo.

I don't know how good you are at coding, but I guess you could make two factions, Khal Drogo as one and Targaryen as the other, and when Khal Drogo takes King's Landing he gifts it to Viserys (who only starts with Evening Hall and a few sellswords).

I don't know.

Good enough,

I dunno I just wanted her to be playable.

At the moment I have strengthened the start of all teams increased money to accommodate this as well.
Made a few ai alterations to try and stop half arsed siege attempts making the targs you for dragons tone and kings landing earlier on, to protect Robert from this I will have Robert hunting or in the antlers settlement to start with. Keep the ideas coming

I've also started the complete map to include 5 new factions across the sea. I will then add new factions for in westeros depending on what the forum want. They will be slightly edited from the vanilla but as I am going to do his Han Solo style unless people want to chip in so don't expect it perfect just playable and bug free

**Uriyaca** · November 22, 2012, 08:37 AM

So is this mod going to be like FireandBlood + Essos ? If it is perhaps talk to Badger-Dude because if it's good then perhaps Essos will be in the next version.

**mortem et gloria** · November 22, 2012, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by uriyaca

So is this mod going to be like FireandBlood + Essos ? If it is perhaps talk to Badger-Dude because if it's good then perhaps Essos will be in the next version.

Speaking with him now so hopefully get something sorted just playing with geomod at the moment but I am doing is as close as possible to the real thing.

What factions shall we have over the narrow sea I don't really want more than 5 or 6 with a few specialist rebel settlements similar to the way falcon submod has done it.

**Toho** · November 22, 2012, 11:27 AM

I have to say as the mapper of WTW... I absolutely hate geomod. god forbid you do one mistake or it bugs out, it send you back several months! it is the satan of map making, I just use gimp (use the 2.6 version). it might take "longer" but it is reliable and thats whats important.

**mortem et gloria** · November 22, 2012, 01:58 PM

yeah i dont like gimp all about photoshop.

i will do the main map in photoshop or gimp if i have to but im just pratting about and doing a test, i prefer the results when i can do it step by step myself