UK's Revolutionary Communist Group releases documentary on Chavez

[Fight!]

The Revolutionary Communist Group documented the days leading up to the election in Venezuela. Going to throw an obligatory cheap shot here, but contrary to popular belief, Venezuela is not some -hole in need of Capitalism, and is in fact doing very well.

Also, they were REALLY into the election. Much more so than my homeland.

[Menelik_I]

A man who was run over by a police tow truck was taken to the hospital in serious condition, Globovision said. The TV news network also reported that the man in charge of the local electoral board was detained.

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Opposition leaders cited the publication in 2003 and 2004 of the names of thousands of Venezuelans who had petitioned for Chavez to be recalled. Many of the names of those who appeared in the so-called Tascon List were subsequently targeted by the Chavez government, the opposition leaders said


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More than 3 million voters participated in Sunday's primary elections, twice as many as expected. Henrique Capriles Radonski, the 39-year-old governor of Miranda state won the primary with more than 60% of the vote.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/02/14/wo...lap/index.html

Because in a Democracy you want to have the list of your opposition voters.

Chavez is a dictator, we could on and on with examples of his BS, but it is self evident.

[mishkin]

Chavez is a dictator

A modern dictator, smart enough to manipulate his citizenship and win elections.
(But a dictator, always expanding his powers).

[Menelik_I]

A modern dictator, smart enough to manipulate his citizenship and win elections.

Do you know how it is to shut up your whole life because you might get blacklisted as opponent of the regime ? I dad know how it fells and He has been telling me to shut up since I was a kind, I am not even 30 and it feels like a prison in my mind.

So take your disgusting caudilho worship somewhere else.

[mishkin]

Do you know how it is to shut up your whole life because you might get blacklisted as opponent of the regime ? I dad know how it fells and He has been telling me to shut up since I was a kind, I am not even 30 and it feels like a prison in my mind.

So take your disgusting caudilho worship somewhere else.

Are you kidding me?????
Caudillo worship????
Reread my post using your common sense.
the caudillo, Chávez, and whatever kind of undemocratic bastard.

[Menelik_I]

Are you kidding me?????
Caudillo worship????
Reread my post using your common sense.
the caudillo, Chávez, and whatever kind of undemocratic bastard.

What does him being a "smart" dictator changes anything to this Chavez resume ? He intimidates his opponents by blacklisting citizens and went so far as putting an opposition who had cancer in Prison for a year. Not only where the charges bogus, but the dude had cancer and was left to rot without treatment for a whole year.

So being smart makes him less of an SOB ?

In early July 2010 the Salvadoran Francisco Chávez Abarca (convicted in Cuba for his role in the 1997 Cuba hotel bombings in December 2010) was arrested in Venezuela and according to the Venezuelan authorities named Peña Esclusa an accomplice in a plan to use violence to disrupt the September 2010 parliamentary elections.[40][41] In response Peña Esclusa posted a video online denying the accusations and said that he expected to be arrested within a day.[42][43] That evening he was arrested in his home by Venezuela's political police SEBIN for possession of explosives.[5] Peña Esclusa's wife claimed that search officers planted explosives in the desk of the couple's 8-year old daughter.[20] His lawyer, Alfredo Romero, accused the 13 members of the political police of violating his client's constitutional rights at the search and arrest by not allowing his lawyer to be present or to inspect the search order. Luis Cabrera, the presiding judge, ruled that the presence of the lawyer could lead to impunity, to which Romero commented, "This court has declared dead the right to defense in Venezuela." [44]
Peña Esclusa was denied bail on July 15, 2010.[44] The preliminary hearings were held January 27, 2011, and on February 7 the defense appealed. The defense has consistently objected to the fact that the court has denied every request to order the presence of the star witness of the prosecutor for cross-examination (Francisco Chávez Abarca was sent to Cuba just before Peña Esclusa's arrest, in accordance with an Interpol red notice[45]).[46] The government only publishes their verdict, and never the appeal from the defense that they are denying, why the defense position is never reported objectively in official documents or state-controlled media. However, FuerzaSolidaria has published Peña Esclusa's petition in court, in which he accused the judge of acting politically, and the prosecutor of lying about statements allegedly made by Chávez Abarca.[47]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alejand...rorism_Charges

[Bobz]

Wait we have a revolutionary communist group in the UK? Who the hell are they?

[hellheaven1987]

Wait we have a revolutionary communist group in the UK? Who the hell are they?

They are Labor's SA.

Chavez is a dictator, we could on and on with examples of his BS, but it is self evident.

Yet in the same time we also need to consider why socialist politicians have a big influence in South America. In short, Chavez is just a small trouble, but the background that push him into top is much more serious.

[justicar5]

1)They are Labor's SA.



2)Yet in the same time we also need to consider why socialist politicians have a big influence in South America. In short, Chavez is just a small trouble, but the background that push him into top is much more serious.

IF they are anything like the Socialist Workers Party, they hate labour with a fiery passion, so the SA comment is off :p

[Sharpe's Company]

Wait we have a revolutionary communist group in the UK? Who the hell are they?

People like this in their little underworld. The funny thing is they really do believe they speak on behalf of the working class

Oh my, I actually feel sorry for them, they're nothing other than middle-class students who've never done a days labour in their lifes and hold no credibility with the working class.

[athanaric]

Oh my, I actually feel sorry for them, they're nothing other than middle-classrich students who've never done a days labour in their lifes and hold no credibility with the working class.

Fixed for you And real students actually do quite a bit of work (studying can be difficult, and then there's jobs and unpaid internships). However you're right in that these lefties are some of the laziest and stupidest of the bunch, with no real interest in the well-being of working class or even middle class people other than pushing retarded agendas.

[Vanoi]

Does the group mention how bad human rights are in Venezuela or how since Chavez has been the leader of Venezuela, they have been getting worse?

[Thorn777]

Does the group mention how bad human rights are in Venezuela or how since Chavez has been the leader of Venezuela, they have been getting worse?

Surely, thats why you better start funding a jihadist overthrow now before its all to late. Oh well, the ususal fascist para-military death squads will do the trick as well.

God...

[Vanoi]

Surely, thats why you better start funding a jihadist overthrow now before its all to late. Oh well, the ususal fascist para-military death squads will do the trick as well.

God...

You got a point yet? Or more rambling about what the US has done?

[Thorn777]

You got a point yet? Or more rambling about what the US has done?

Well how about using your head and stop lying to yourself and others and as an American citizen be against these practices?

Till then all these "human rights" posts of yours are just a sad display really.

[Vanoi]

Well how about using your head and stop lying to yourself and others and as an American citizen be against these practices?

What am i lying to myself about? What? Please inform me.

Till then all these "human rights" posts of yours are just a sad display really.

Sad display? Really? Are you ever going to come up with a rational point in a discussion? Can you ever not bring the US up in thread that has nothing to do with them?

[athanaric]

Does the group mention how bad human rights are in Venezuela or how since Chavez has been the leader of Venezuela, they have been getting worse?

And does the group mention how Venezuela and Colombia have changed positions since Chavez and Uribe took over, respectively? Meaning Venezuela, once wealthy and progressive, becoming more and more of a GDR-like backwater hole (at best) and Colombia getting back on track.
I also heard that sane Venezuelans are now investing in Colombia.

[Fight!]

Because in a Democracy you want to have the list of your opposition voters.

Chavez is a dictator, we could on and on with examples of his BS, but it is self evident and whoever refuses to admit that is an idiot, including the people who made this video in the OP.

That's called suspected voter fraud, and it happens in most democratic countries, including my own.

http://watchdogwire.com/florida/2012...n-141-turnout/

As for police brutality, I don't think I need to mention how prominent an issue this is around the world right now. In the United States, the Occupy Movement is infamous for documenting countless acts of police brutality. Much more so than the singular incident reported by Globovision, of which they don't provide context or evidence (Not that I'm saying it didn't happen, but seriously).

Does the group mention how bad human rights are in Venezuela or how since Chavez has been the leader of Venezuela, they have been getting worse?

Why don't you tell me. How have human rights violation been getting worse?

[Menelik_I]

That's called suspected voter fraud, and it happens in most democratic countries, including my own.

http://watchdogwire.com/florida/2012...n-141-turnout/

As for police brutality, I don't think I need to mention how prominent an issue this is around the world right now. In the United States, the Occupy Movement is infamous for documenting countless acts of police brutality. Much more so than the singular incident reported by Globovision, of which they don't provide context or evidence (Not that I'm saying it didn't happen, but seriously).

Go worship your dictator in peace, I don't give a crap about what kind of Kool-aid you drink and nor Am I inclined to reason you.

Have a good day.

[Fight!]

Go worship your dictator in peace, I don't give a crap about what kind of Kool-aid you drink and nor Am I inclined to reason you.

Have a good day.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I'd really appreciate it if we could have civil discourse, rather than an argument where you insult me for basing decisions off of superior evidence. You pointed out a case for police came to conflict with some people, and injured one of them, there are countless cases like that all over the world, and you know this. There is no evidence to suggest that Venezuela is home to more police brutality than other countries.

The same goes for the ballot recounting. That is a perfectly normal thing in democratic countries, so why should this singular and very normal incident be viewed harshly when the rest of the world does the same?