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    Default California Democrats now have super-majority.

    The nation's most populous state - home to 1 in 8 Americans - has entered a period of Democratic political control so far-reaching that the dwindling number of Republicans in the Legislature are in danger of becoming mere spectators at the statehouse.

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    The party also secured a supermajority in one, and possibly both, chambers in the Legislature.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT
    Now without those Republicans we can all expect California to soon become the best state in the USA, and even in the world. What are the policies that they could now implement without restrain and does this could be used as a small scale experiment of how better the USA could without Republican obstructionism.

    What policies are they likely to adopt and how they can play out.

    Discuss.
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    What do you want to discuss? The fact that people have been elected in line with how the public have voted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    What do you want to discuss? The fact that people have been elected in line with how the public have voted?
    What are the policies they are going to institute and whether this is a reduced experiment on the future of the USA. I personally have opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    What are the policies they are going to institute and whether this is a reduced experiment on the future of the USA. I personally have opinion.
    Of course you do. You think every Democrat election victory is somehow won either unfairly or because of other (virtually non-existent) parties taking votes away from Republicans.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    What are the policies they are going to institute and whether this is a reduced experiment on the future of the USA. I personally have opinion.
    What's "reduced experiment on the future of the USA" actually mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    What are the policies they are going to institute and whether this is a reduced experiment on the future of the USA. I personally have opinion.
    Means nothing. Other states have had this situation before. My own state of North Carolina had a democratic supermajority in-state for decades even though we went republican in the presedential elections (except 2008). Now this election it has flipped and the republicans have it.
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    Meanwhile we also know that financial situation of California is also one of worst among United States.

    Sorry I am not going to pay your bills, people of California.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    ...Sorry I am not going to pay your bills, people of California.
    That's an interesting point of view as California has consistently over the years received fewer tax dollars than we pay out. The latest data I can find shows that in 2010 California receives $0.78 for every dollar paid in Federal taxes. This shows that we've been helping the poorer states balance their budgets for awhile now. How's that for tax fairness?

    On the other side states like New Mexico, Mississippi, Alaska, Louisiana, and W. Virginia receive far more than they pay into the Federal coffers - $2.03, $2.02, $1.84, $1.78 and $1.76 respectively. These states can thank the largesse of states like New Jersey, Connecticut, Texas, etc. for their help. But I doubt I'll ever hear residents of poorer states thank the richer states for the help they receive.

    Reference - United States Federal Tax Dollars. A visual guide to make it easier to understand....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoleCat View Post
    That's an interesting point of view as California has consistently over the years received fewer tax dollars than we pay out. The latest data I can find shows that in 2010 California receives $0.78 for every dollar paid in Federal taxes. This shows that we've been helping the poorer states balance their budgets for awhile now. How's that for tax fairness?

    On the other side states like New Mexico, Mississippi, Alaska, Louisiana, and W. Virginia receive far more than they pay into the Federal coffers - $2.03, $2.02, $1.84, $1.78 and $1.76 respectively. These states can thank the largesse of states like New Jersey, Connecticut, Texas, etc. for their help. But I doubt I'll ever hear residents of poorer states thank the richer states for the help they receive.

    Reference - United States Federal Tax Dollars. A visual guide to make it easier to understand....
    That info graphic is based on cumulative historical data, i.e. cumulative payments and receipts over the period 1981-2005. California was barely breaking even after the dotcom bubble burst and has been far in the red since 2008. For 2011 total federal spending was $346 billion. Total federal revenue was $281.2 billion.

    Figures from:

    http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/...g_by_state.php
    http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/f...e_by_state.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    Now without those Republicans we can all expect California to soon become the best state in the USA, and even in the world. What are the policies that they could now implement without restrain and does this could be used as a small scale experiment of how better the USA could without Republican obstructionism.
    Best state in the USA and even the world? That's pushing it.

    You seem to be going off like California will soon enter some golden age simply because it's controlled by democrats. If they can turn around the economy (which as Hellheaven pointed out isn't that great) then for sure but that's debatable and highly unlikely because it would require some strict measures in order to fix it.

    One thing I can guarantee though is since they control all sides they can pretty much use their muscle and do whatever they want so at the very least something would be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nameless View Post
    Best state in the USA and even the world? That's pushing it.

    You seem to be going off like California will soon enter some golden age simply because it's controlled by democrats. If they can turn around the economy (which as Hellheaven pointed out isn't that great) then for sure but that's debatable and highly unlikely because it would require some strict measures in order to fix it.

    One thing I can guarantee though is since they control all sides they can pretty much use their muscle and do whatever they want so at the very least something would be done.
    You don't seem to know Menelik, that was sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevins View Post
    You don't seem to know Menelik, that was sarcasm.
    Partly sarcastic, California can actually provide a good outlook of the left way of dealing with economic downturn, even more than than France due to the expected super-majority, stimulus, taxes, public investment, public infrastructure and green energy, they apparently can pass whatever they want as long as they can tax and borrow. So if in some years California ride this out and turn out to be more successful due to these policies I might change my mind.
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    Hold on, let me just get out my crystal ball.

    Or you could just read this: http://www.cadem.org/resources?id=0003. That's going to be a pretty good indicator of what they're going to implement.

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    What did rhe Republicans do to land in such a situation?
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    What did rhe Republicans do to land in such a situation?
    They weren't conservative enough.
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    The conservative part of the state is mostly the rural valley and hinterlands, plus for some reason the capital is very conservative... and very suburban. However, the vast majority or left leaning. To answer your question I believe we can finally promote more mass transit without the ing NIMBYs getting in the ing way.
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    They weren't conservative enough.
    Uh they weren't liberal enough. And an independent group redistricted the state by population.
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    Mass transit nobody will ever use? No ing thanks. Your wet dream of a subway system is more impossible to implement than the badly needed expansion of the 5. Rural valleys are certainly not the only conservative parts of the state. You're completely ignoring areas like San Diego, Orange County, Riverside, etc. If anything I would say its the Bay Area, LA, and the rural areas that are CADems.
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    No, Mathias, Fox News has consistently shown that the reason the Republicans lost is because they weren't conservative enough. You'll see in the next general election, when they push even further to the ultra-right, they'll win California. And if they don't, it will still mean they weren't conservative enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Border Patrol View Post
    Mass transit nobody will ever use? No ing thanks. Your wet dream of a subway system is more impossible to implement than the badly needed expansion of the 5. Rural valleys are certainly not the only conservative parts of the state. You're completely ignoring areas like San Diego, Orange County, Riverside, etc. If anything I would say its the Bay Area, LA, and the rural areas that are CADems.
    Um nobody is asking for a subway system in rural Fresno but mass transit numbers are on the rise in Sacramento (the capital), the Bay Area, and the LA region. Mass transit works there and makes sense.

    Honestly, you have millions of miles of road already, you dont need more. Try paying for the ones you have first.

    San Diego actually has a growing urban population with access to and need for Mass transit. Orange County is most suburban and rich folks. Riverside, never been there, prob suburban and looks the same as any other suburban dump.

    And please... LA metro has a Daily ridership of 1,474,255.
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    No, Mathias, Fox News has consistently shown that the reason the Republicans lost is because they weren't conservative enough. You'll see in the next general election, when they push even further to the ultra-right, they'll win California. And if they don't, it will still mean they weren't conservative enough.

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    Well... if Fox says so. They do speak for conservatives. You have convinced me.

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    And with gas prices increasing...

    Or other prices...

    Or peoples purchasing-power decreasing...

    Only question is, which, and when a DuPont can knick it off the public for a bargain like they did with the NY subway and then make the thing as inaffordable and worn down as possible.
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