check a friends build pls

**Steapa Snotor** · November 11, 2012, 12:35 PM

Hi friends

Would you guys be so kind and check this build for a friend of mine.
Id just like to add that this is mostly for video editing and photoshop, with light gaming.

**karamazovmm** · November 11, 2012, 02:14 PM

Changes:

SSD:http://www.scan.co.uk/products/256gb...-write-400mb-s
it would actually be better if he bought a enterprise class SSD, scratch disk SSDs if you are a pro tend to be replaced constantly, the sc3700 would be a great buy, I know some guys already in line for this one, its supposedly going to save them a lot of cash.
HDD:http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-t...rpm-32mb-cache
better speed and more storage
GPU:http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-m...hdmi-2x-mini-d
the kepler gpus are a pos in terms of GPGPU, the GCN arch is miles ahead. Think this way, while nvidia got a worse performance compared to their previous line, AMD got almost 100% or more in some cases.

**Alkaline Earth** · November 11, 2012, 03:25 PM

If where he buys from is not an issue tell him to buy from http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/, he will save a few coin.

**Totalheadache** · November 11, 2012, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Karamazovmm

Changes:

SSD:http://www.scan.co.uk/products/256gb...-write-400mb-s
it would actually be better if he bought a enterprise class SSD, scratch disk SSDs if you are a pro tend to be replaced constantly, the sc3700 would be a great buy, I know some guys already in line for this one, its supposedly going to save them a lot of cash.
HDD:http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-t...rpm-32mb-cache
better speed and more storage
GPU:http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2gb-m...hdmi-2x-mini-d
the kepler gpus are a pos in terms of GPGPU, the GCN arch is miles ahead. Think this way, while nvidia got a worse performance compared to their previous line, AMD got almost 100% or more in some cases.

i do agree a 7870 or 7950 much better buy. new gpus's are around the corner so maybe he can wait..other gpus's might come down in price a bit.

rest of it looks good.

**Steapa Snotor** · November 11, 2012, 10:48 PM

I know what you guys mean about the gpu, I told him to go for the msi twin frozr 660ti, reason being hes interested in physx on borderlands 2.
I myself would go down the 7950 route especially with the new drivers. but and its a big but, hes trying to shave off money where he can.
The hdd will be getting changed to the one above, thanks for the help.

Other than that would this build will be ok?

**Totalheadache** · November 12, 2012, 01:32 AM

Originally Posted by Steapa Snotor

I know what you guys mean about the gpu, I told him to go for the msi twin frozr 660ti, reason being hes interested in physx on borderlands 2.
I myself would go down the 7950 route especially with the new drivers. but and its a big but, hes trying to shave off money where he can.
The hdd will be getting changed to the one above, thanks for the help.

Other than that would this build will be ok?

well amd next series is out q1 i think. yeah that gpu would be my choice as well...I like msi for gpu.

that said if he's a casual gamer then 7870 is fine. i'd hunt around for a 2nd hand one maybe...

i.e goto the sites like guru/anandtech/techpowerup they have a for sale section (well i know guru3d.com does. ok it is a bit more risky going 2nd hand but there should be a few people who will be selling their cards in time for next gen. even ebay might be worth a look...

then he could perhaps afford a 7950.

rest of the build is fine.

p.s i dont see an aftermarket cooler. you want to add one of them, that cpu will do 4ghz pretty easy but stock coolers wont cut it.

**Steapa Snotor** · November 12, 2012, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Totalheadache

p.s i don't see an aftermarket cooler. you want to add one of them, that cpu will do 4ghz pretty easy but stock coolers wont cut it.

yer he originally had a Asetek 510 liquid cooler(isn't it just a h50?), but i read that they aren't much better than stock. So i said leave that and upgrade at a later date.

Karamazovmm, yer that ssd does look nice i might get that one for my build next month.
Thanks allot for the help fellas.

**Doono** · November 15, 2012, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by Steapa Snotor

I know what you guys mean about the gpu, I told him to go for the msi twin frozr 660ti, reason being hes interested in physx on borderlands 2.
I myself would go down the 7950 route especially with the new drivers. but and its a big but, hes trying to shave off money where he can.
The hdd will be getting changed to the one above, thanks for the help.

Other than that would this build will be ok?

I can say with complete authority that you can use physx in borderlands 2 with an radeon card. I run a 7850 twin frozr with an i5-3570 with physx on max and it runs just fine. You still get the particle effects, liquid physics and cloth physics, all of which are awesome by the way. The workload is shifted to the CPU but I7 shouldn't have any trouble dealing with that.

**Totalheadache** · November 15, 2012, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by Doono

I can say with complete authority that you can use physx in borderlands 2 with an radeon card. I run a 7850 twin frozr with an i5-3570 with physx on max and it runs just fine. You still get the particle effects, liquid physics and cloth physics, all of which are awesome by the way. The workload is shifted to the CPU but I7 shouldn't have any trouble dealing with that.

correct. there's only 2 games for me (batman and mafia2) that are very good and where physx is a real bonus.

my experience with bl2 so far and physx has been iffy. trying to get high to work even with a dedicated gpu (640) wasnt 2 good.

btw you can even run an amd card with an nvidia card if you really want nvidia "physx".

i choose nvidia generally as i think they hold the edge on driver support, not 2 say i wont consider getting am amd card next gen.

(been seeing some good things re the 7950).

**Love Mountain** · November 15, 2012, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by Totalheadache

correct. there's only 2 games for me (batman and mafia2) that are very good and where physx is a real bonus.

my experience with bl2 so far and physx has been iffy. trying to get high to work even with a dedicated gpu (640) wasnt 2 good.

btw you can even run an amd card with an nvidia card if you really want nvidia "physx".

i choose nvidia generally as i think they hold the edge on driver support, not 2 say i wont consider getting am amd card next gen.

(been seeing some good things re the 7950).

Nvidia has been dropping the ball for the last couple of years actually.

OT: There are 8800GTS or better on sale in overclock.net marketplace like every other day. I'd pick up a 7870, overclock the crud out of it, hook up an 8800 and run Physics on it. Sorry, but Nvidia is relying on the strength of their brand to sell GPUs and sad to say it's working. AMD has been giving a better value consistently this entire line-up. It's sad when a company has been doing everything right, but they won't get rewarded for it because consumer awareness is complete

. Oh well...

**Totalheadache** · November 15, 2012, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by Sukiyama

Nvidia has been dropping the ball for the last couple of years actually.

OT: There are 8800GTS or better on sale in overclock.net marketplace like every other day. I'd pick up a 7870, overclock the crud out of it, hook up an 8800 and run Physics on it. Sorry, but Nvidia is relying on the strength of their brand to sell GPUs and sad to say it's working. AMD has been giving a better value consistently this entire line-up. It's sad when a company has been doing everything right, but they won't get rewarded for it because consumer awareness is complete

. Oh well...

Nonsense! I dont know the exact market share but am pretty sure Nvidia still are top.

Only card of theirs that was a semi failure was the 480, apart from that it's all been good.

8800gts for sale what are you on about? that's an ancient card

p.s and it's not about consumer awareness at all. people who are in the market for a new gpu know perfectly well about amd v nvidia and their plus and minus points. (well the vast majority do or they educate themselves)

it's the fact that people still think they are getting a better product even if it costs more. some people prefer to save their cash whilst others have good experiences with nvidia cards and prefer them..it's quite simple. who's right or wrong is immaterial it's your choice as a consumer.

if you think people are wrong because they buy nvidia products or buy intel etc you need to take a step back as you are taking it way to seriously. both are good products but buy what suits your needs.

now if you want to really argue this you'd need to look at each card released over the last few years and then compare benchmarks/costs/heat etc etc but tbh that's quite boring so lets not bother

depends on the card/game but to say AMD is better than Nvidia or vicer versa is the stuff of childish or (mature) FANBOYS.

**karamazovmm** · November 12, 2012, 05:48 AM

I would drop the SSD them. stick to the other things that I pointed out, GCN power is much higher and physx is just annoying.

**Adreno** · November 13, 2012, 05:31 AM

where does he need the soundcard for? its not neccessary unless you have a kick ass system attached to your computer

**Totalheadache** · November 13, 2012, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Adreno

where does he need the soundcard for? its not neccessary unless you have a kick ass system attached to your computer

soundcard only if you have a kick ass system...nonsense!

and if he has a liquid cooler for cpu that's def good enough for any overclocking needs.

**Love Mountain** · November 15, 2012, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Totalheadache

8800gts for sale what are you on about? that's an ancient card

Ton of old cards on sale on overclock.net that you can use for physics.

p.s and it's not about consumer awareness at all. people who are in the market for a new gpu know perfectly well about amd v nvidia and their plus and minus points. (well the vast majority do or they educate themselves)

Alas we don't live in a perfect world

it's the fact that people still think they are getting a better product even if it costs more. some people prefer to save their cash whilst others have good experiences with nvidia cards and prefer them..it's quite simple. who's right or wrong is immaterial it's your choice as a consumer.

Which is exactly the problem... Nvidia’s propriety technology is never objectively valued, thus leading to such good sales of Nvidia cards when AMD has been providing a better deal consistently this entire generation. Not that Im not guilty of this. I replaced my 6950 with a 680.

if you think people are wrong because they buy nvidia products or buy intel etc you need to take a step back as you are taking it way to seriously. both are good products but buy what suits your needs.

When did I say that? Im saying that people are not objectively judging the value of their purchases. Nothing wrong with that. It's a persistent phenomena that has gone on forever.

now if you want to really argue this you'd need to look at each card released over the last few years and then compare benchmarks/costs/heat etc etc but tbh that's quite boring so lets not bother

Because we both know that Nvidia consistently dominated the consumer gpu segment due to better marketing and promotion of their brand. Only recently has their grip been weakened.

depends on the card/game but to say AMD is better than Nvidia or vicer versa is the stuff of childish or (mature) FANBOYS.

Nobody is arguing anything. There are no bad products, only bad prices. And Nvidia's prices have been worse than AMD's prices this entire generatioin.