Dirty Peasant for Artifex.

[Halie Satanus]

Dirty Peasant for Artifex.

Proposer; the Council of War.
Supporter; Belisarius.

The Council of War are proud to nominate Dirty Peasant for the rank of Artifex,
Long before Ca began Mtw2 previews Dp was showing us what medieval knights could look like, and with bated breath we gaze in awe with each addition to the Chivalry roster,

Artifex Act

To qualify as Artifex, the nominee must meet the following Criteria:

* Served the Total War Center or Total War Community with significant input to the total war boards in any capacity other than staff.

* The nominee must be seconded by a Magistrate or Opifex before it can go to a vote. Vote shall be refused to any user who fails the criteria for citizenship with regard to warnings and post count.


Qualifying nominees shall be voted upon in the Curia for a period of one week, and a majority will be sufficient to decorate a user as an Artifex. A user who passes the vote shall be awarded the rank of 'Artifex' . A nominee who fails to achieve a majority is eligible to be nominated again after a three month period.

Dirty Peasant.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/member.php?u=1357
View more of his work in this thread.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...00#post1077300

this is the first proposal i've made so if i've missed anything let me know.

[Reidy]

Artifex is redundant; make him a Civitate.

[Kaweh]

I support this.

K.K

[Niles Crane]

Why would we want to bestow the honourary title of Artifex on a dirty peasant?

[Reidy]

What is the point of Artifex? They serve the same purpose as Civitate, but don't have access to exclusive forums. I see no point in this second rate opifex/civitate rank.

Artifex Act

To qualify as Artifex, the nominee must meet the following Criteria:

* Served the Total War Center or Total War Community with significant input to the total war boards in any capacity other than staff.

* The nominee must be seconded by a Magistrate or Opifex before it can go to a vote. Vote shall be refused to any user who fails the criteria for citizenship with regard to warnings and post count.


Qualifying nominees shall be voted upon in the Curia for a period of one week, and a majority will be sufficient to decorate a user as an Artifex. A user who passes the vote shall be awarded the rank of 'Artifex' . A nominee who fails to achieve a majority is eligible to be nominated again after a three month period.

Where in there does it describe what the rank is for?

[Halie Satanus]

What is the point of Artifex? They serve the same purpose as Civitate, but don't have access to exclusive forums. I see no point in this second rate opifex/civitate rank.

Thanks for the insight, but that has nothing to do with the propsal. do you have anything to add to the discussion on whether Dp is a good candidate??

Where in there does it describe what the rank is for?

Read the first section of the Act. :hmmm:
Read the first post.
if you need any more clues let me know.

Why would we want to bestow the honourary title of Artifex on a dirty peasant?

Thats really funny , not up to the standard of Oscar Wilde but i do enjoy a bit of sarcasm. anything worth my time to add to the discussion or is this just spam??

[Reidy]

Thanks for the insight, but that has nothing to do with the propsal. do you have anything to add to the discussion on whether Dp is a good candidate??

Yes it does. My point is that Artifex does nothing that is not covered by Opifex and/or Civitate, so it is redundant. Therefore, this proposal is redundant. It does not matter whether or not dp is a good candidate - if he is, it should be for civitate. Am I right in thinking the Civitate rank was originally created with modders in mind? Why create a new rank when there is already one in existance that does a perfectly good job.

There are many modders who have contributed "significant input" to TWC, and they have been made a Civitate. Examples include Adherbal, Khelvan, Agraes, militiaman, dragases1453, even you yourself. The list goes on. Some then go further, and are given the Opifex title. I repeat, the Artifex rank serves no purpose, and is in my mind mildly insulting, as it implies that the propective candidates are not good enough to qualify for Opifex or Civitate (and what happens when a member does not qualify for Civitate? ).

Read the first section of the Act. :hmmm:
Read the first post.
if you need any more clues let me know.

Nowhere in the Artifex Act is the reason for the rank explained. There are only brief guidelines on qualification and the voting procedure. Where is exactly are the details on the role of Artifexs? I would have thought you would at least know what you were nominating him for...

[Halie Satanus]

Yes it does. My point is that Artifex does nothing that is not covered by Opifex and/or Civitate, so it is redundant. Therefore, this proposal is redundant. It does not matter whether or not dp is a good candidate - if he is, it should be for civitate. Am I right in thinking the Civitate rank was originally created with modders in mind? Why create a new rank when there is already one in existance that does a perfectly good job.

There are many modders who have contributed "significant input" to TWC, and they have been made a Civitate. Examples include Adherbal, Khelvan, Agraes, militiaman, dragases1453, even you yourself. The list goes on. Some then go further, and are given the Opifex title. I repeat, the Artifex rank serves nopurpose, and is in my mind mildly insulting, as it implies that the propective candidates are not good enough to qualify for Opifex or Civitate (and what happens when a member does not qualify for Civitate? ).

I am sorry if i was not clear, i have proposed Dp as Artifex i'll happily discuss his credentials or lack of, however i did not open this thread to discuss the Artifex rank, if you have issue with it open a thread and discuss it there, please stop trying to hijack this thread.

Nowhere in the Artifex Act is the reason for the rank explained. There are only brief guidelines on qualification and the voting procedure. Where is exactly are the details on the role of Artifexs? I would have thought you would at least know what you were nominating him for...

* Served the Total War Center or Total War Community with significant input to the total war boards in any capacity other than staff.

This is what it is awarded for,
the first post is why i have made this proposal,
If you need more clarification let me know. :original:

[gigagaia]

Yes it does. My point is that Artifex does nothing that is not covered by Opifex and/or Civitate, so it is redundant. Therefore, this proposal is redundant. It does not matter whether or not dp is a good candidate - if he is, it should be for civitate. Am I right in thinking the Civitate rank was originally created with modders in mind? Why create a new rank when there is already one in existance that does a perfectly good job.

There are many modders who have contributed "significant input" to TWC, and they have been made a Civitate. Examples include Adherbal, Khelvan, Agraes, militiaman, dragases1453, even you yourself. The list goes on. Some then go further, and are given the Opifex title. I repeat, the Artifex rank serves no purpose, and is in my mind mildly insulting, as it implies that the propective candidates are not good enough to qualify for Opifex or Civitate (and what happens when a member does not qualify for Civitate? ).

No it doesn't. You should be deciding whether or not Dirty Peasent is qualified for this position based on whether or not he lives up to the criteria. If you disagree with the qualification, then say that you abstain because you don't agree with the position. Don't make someone else's vote a referendum on the Artifex position, make it on whether or not the Candidate lives up to the criteria.

That being said, if you disagree with the Artifex title, then I suggest that you work on getting people such as Dirty Peasent recognized with a civitate badge yourself. There are plenty of qualified people out there that are not civitates simply because they are not active posters per se.
Start a different thread and present a constructive solution to enhancing civitates status to make it easier for people to recognize and patronize modders as a replacement for Artifex. What will denying every single candidate do exactly, since the law will still be in place and many modders will simply slip through the cracks? Are you out there ensuring that modders are getting recognized by patronizing them?

Surely he should be Opifex?

I disgaree.
Opifex is to honour those who have made signifigant contributions to the community as a whole, hence why people like Lord Rahl are Opifex. Opifexs have dissemated a wide variety of supurb material out into the TW community and its members, or have had major contributions to enhancing the entire modding community's abilities to produce better produce material for us no-nothings to play with. That may include leading major projects that are groundbreaking such as RTR, or even freelancing great skills around and thus helping to teach members more about modding to enhance their ability to mod.

Artifex should be to honour those who have made great achievements within a mod, such as Dirty Peasent, and recognize them as great modders deserving of respect. Obviously they can pass an Opifex vote later, should the start to involve themselves more in the community, but I think that Artifex is good to recognize great individual works, which are still important meaningful to us as a community.

It is my personal opinion that Dirty Peasent is the type of modder that Artifex was designed for. His work for Chiv is second to none.

[Lord Rahl]

Because dirty peasants do all the hard labor for you while you sit at home, drinking some Fosters, and watch rugby...you sick bastard. Give him some respect! I think his modding work proves itself.

[Obi Wan Asterix]

I support this

[imb39]

Darn, I wish I was half as talented as him... Support.

[Publius]

Opifex can always be given at a later date - be a shame to stop this and prolong recognizing him for what hes done

[Reidy]

Opifex can always be given at a later date - be a shame to stop this and prolong recognizing him for what hes done

Then make him a civitate! What else is the rank for except this?!

He certainly deserves it.

[Publius]

You're the patrician, not me . . .

[Agraes]

I support this.

[Niles Crane]

Thats really funny , not up to the standard of Oscar Wilde but i do enjoy a bit of sarcasm. anything worth my time to add to the discussion or is this just spam??

EDIT - No, he shouldn't.

[Halie Satanus]

I'll edit this post later today when I've finished my research on him.

If you do then i will be equally courteous and apologise for my jibe.

:original:

[Shaun]

Yes, i support this. Artifex is fine, Opfex is a bit too far in my opinion.

So what exactly does the artifex badge look like? And what powers does it bring?

[Halie Satanus]

Yes, i support this. Artifex is fine, Opfex is a bit too far in my opinion.

So what exactly does the artifex badge look like? And what powers does it bring?

No badge yet, but maybe Rahl will make one once we have someone to give it to,
some will have you belive it has the power to lay waste to make belive internet societies, but in truth none, its an honoury rank for the time being. :wink: