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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20212989
    A man has been arrested on suspicion of a racially aggravated offence following Chelsea's League Cup win over Manchester United.

    Pictures taken during Wednesday's fourth-round tie at Stamford Bridge appeared to show a fan making a "monkey" gesture.

    Gavin Kirkham, 28, was bailed after being questioned at a west London police station on Monday.

    United striker Danny Welbeck appeared to be the target of the alleged abuse.

    The Metropolitan Police said Mr Kirkham was arrested after attending the police station by appointment.

    He was released on bail until later in November.

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    In a separate development, the Professional Game Match Officials Ltd has said that referee Mark Clattenburg will not officiate in any matches this weekend.

    Chelsea accused the referee of using an offensive racial term during the 3-2 Premier League defeat by Manchester United on 28 October.

    Clattenburg maintains he is innocent and neither of his assistants, nor the fourth official, are backing Chelsea's allegations.

    The Metropolitan Police also started an investigation into the allegations after receiving a complaint from a source outside the game.
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    I think you guys are going a bit too far with your attempt to make every dystopian vision of future England come true.

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    Down with freedom of speech! No one is allowed to be an ass and no one shall every be offended ever again! Back into your bubbles!

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    Quote Originally Posted by I WUB PUGS View Post
    Down with freedom of speech! No one is allowed to be an ass and no one shall every be offended ever again! Back into your bubbles!
    Being an ass is inhuman, it is almost Hitlerian. We shouldn't allow it in no circumstances !

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    An idiot at a football match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I WUB PUGS View Post
    Down with freedom of speech! No one is allowed to be an ass and no one shall every be offended ever again! Back into your bubbles!
    We don't have freedom of speech that's an American constitution thing you have. We have anti-hate speech and anti-racial intolerance laws instead, backed by the Queen or something.

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    he lives on the estate i work on ha.

    Racist gestures are illegal in many countries. It also comes in the aftermath of a bunch of racism scandals so he's even more an idiot for doing it in light of that. What is the point to the thread?

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    I thought Homo sapiens is one species of Primates?
    Throwing this good Darwinist in prison surely shows that Britain is falling into Eurabian Muslim dominance.
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    There's very much of an attitude of zero-tolerance towards football hooligans and racial slurs towards black players nowadays. Given how bad a reputation English football fans used to have, I don't think it's a bad thing at all. For whatever reason football crowds seem to attract the worst sort of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobz View Post
    There's very much of an attitude of zero-tolerance towards football hooligans and racial slurs towards black players nowadays. Given how bad a reputation English football fans used to have, I don't think it's a bad thing at all. For whatever reason football crowds seem to attract the worst sort of people.
    to the point where now english football is among the safest and most respectful.

    compare it to the dire events in Serbia just a few weeks ago whereby the english team were assaulted by both crowd and the Serbian u21 team (coaches too!). Not the for the first time..

    Spanish games still featuring bannanas being thrown at black players. Massive amounts of football-related violence in eastern europe whereby racism is rampant and hooligan fans have nothing short of pitched battles before and after games.

    then there's south america and africa where riots and death is actually rather common at football games.

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    Racism has no place in football or society as a whole. This lad thought he could get away with it due to the fact he was just another face in the crowd (i.e. safety in numbers) but he got caught out. I don't think he should get thrown in the slammer but he should get banned from Chelsea matches, as it would send out the message to other fans that this sort of thing won't be tolerated.

    That said, I think a lot of recent incidents have been overblown by the media. Racism in the English game isn't nearly as bad as it was back in the 70's and 80's when stuff like monkey chanting and banana throwing were all too common. I certainly think crowds in England, and English football overall, are more respectful to black players than some other countries in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erebus Pasha View Post
    Racism has no place in football or society as a whole. This lad thought he could get away with it due to the fact he was just another face in the crowd (i.e. safety in numbers) but he got caught out. I don't think he should get thrown in the slammer but he should get banned from Chelsea matches, as it would send out the message to other fans that this sort of thing won't be tolerated.

    That said, I think a lot of recent incidents have been overblown by the media. Racism in the English game isn't nearly as bad as it was back in the 70's and 80's when stuff like monkey chanting and banana throwing were all too common. I certainly think crowds in England, and English football overall, are more respectful to black players than some other countries in Europe.
    Case in point the recent incident in Serbia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erebus Pasha View Post
    Racism has no place in football or society as a whole. This lad thought he could get away with it due to the fact he was just another face in the crowd (i.e. safety in numbers) but he got caught out. I don't think he should get thrown in the slammer but he should get banned from Chelsea matches, as it would send out the message to other fans that this sort of thing won't be tolerated.

    That said, I think a lot of recent incidents have been overblown by the media. Racism in the English game isn't nearly as bad as it was back in the 70's and 80's when stuff like monkey chanting and banana throwing were all too common. I certainly think crowds in England, and English football overall, are more respectful to black players than some other countries in Europe.
    Or the Czechs in hockey recently:
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    Simmonds was also the subject of a racist tweet fest from Boston fans during the playoffs last year. Not surprising, but he'd probably get the same from Phili fans if he were a Bruin.

    He's also had bananas thrown at him.

    Here's what you do. You don't arrest these people, you mock them. They wish to use media to make themselves into an ass, find who they are and expose them for how much of an ass they really are. Government has no place in this.
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    "racism"

    I bet the player wasn't looking at that douche but at the ball.

    Gavin Kirkham, 28, was bailed after being questioned at a west London police station on Monday.
    I'd love to be there to witness his questioning,

    -"Did you or did you not make a monkey gesture during the game?"

    -"I did..."

    -"Nailed it leutenant, we've got him to talk, throw his racist scumback ass in prison"
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    England? You mean the UK? England has stopped existing since a loooong time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperTechmarine View Post
    England? You mean the UK? England has stopped existing since a loooong time ago.
    You are obviously racist against Welsh, Irishmen and Scots ... TO JAIL NOW!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperTechmarine View Post
    England? You mean the UK? England has stopped existing since a loooong time ago.
    That is racist how can you deny the English right to exist.When Scotland leaves the Union England will rise up again and take on the world again.


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    I'm going to dress up as a Nazareno at a basketball game.

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    What's racist about it? Looks to me that people want to be offended and are looking for laughable justifications.
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    What's racist about it? Looks to me that people want to be offended and are looking for laughable justifications.
    Some people are so sensitive, I wonder how can they survive.

    We should probably file a lawsuit at every Englishman who calls the southern Europeans lazy. Seems like we could make a lot of money this way
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