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    Default Which is the best Empire state for scripted battles/activity?

    I've Played as Reikland and Middenhelm
    but I'm curious as to which of the empire states finds itself in the most peralous situation?
    I would suspect Ostermark, due to their location, they seem to be in the thick of it.

    What is your opinion? Would appreciate any feedback as I will base my next campaign on it, Thank you.
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    from my opinion I think it is stirland .didnt played as stirland but in all of my other campaigns most of time stirland was crushed by vampire counts

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    Ostermark guys, one and only-cause u can conquer Mordheim and maybe even Sylvania without problem beforer Chaos kick ur ass-but still bridge defence, some cannons few mortars and nobody shall pass

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    Ostland, very challenging campaign. Only downside is the lack of Regiments of renown.

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    Stirland is pretty tough, compared to some of the other factions, One of vamps victory conditions is to destroy you, and they will try. They also have several scripted armies that attack you, 4 of them in a single turn I believe. The lack of early artillery means you will have to fight them the old school way. And nearly every stack has blood dragons, necarchs, or black grail knights.

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    Default Re: Which is the best Empire state for scripted battles/activity?

    Ostland. They have incursions from beastmen,vampire,chaos,dark elves all the time. And they are very poor unlike averland.

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    Mate! you like the pain, ain't you ??

    Try The Ostland State in Hard/Hard... Suicide!!

    Stirland is a hard one, but compared to Ostland... I mean, poor fellas they get all the raidin on them

    Cheers!

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    I think each campaign you start has a different feel, I personally had no proplems with ostland, I play on VH. I got no vamps attacking me while Ostland, only beastmen and a small amount of chaos. Playing as Middenheim will make you an excellent beastman slayer, as they are bombarded at the start of the campaign in version 1.5.

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    Yet, I think that Stirland it's harder than Middenheim, but i'll stay with Ostland all this based on my personal experience

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    I agree with Ostland... it is a bit random but they have the most chances to be hit by several scripted armies and factions.

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    Default Re: Which is the best Empire state for scripted battles/activity?

    Well I played through a few and each time... Weiseland*sp(Nuln) was knocked back to thier capital each time...

    I have encounter a little problem though there has been a general lack of mercenary/special regiments... which doesn't add up with what I remember... and when i encounter the other empire states armies... they are full of bright wizards/which hunters/priests of ulrich ect. so far playing 4 empire states I've only received Warrior priests of Sigmar and a group of merc's who have swords/pike men / crossbowmen / light calvery / cannon
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    Default Re: Which is the best Empire state for scripted battles/activity?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conchubhair View Post
    Well I played through a few and each time... Weiseland*sp(Nuln) was knocked back to thier capital each time...

    I have encounter a little problem though there has been a general lack of mercenary/special regiments... which doesn't add up with what I remember... and when i encounter the other empire states armies... they are full of bright wizards/which hunters/priests of ulrich ect. so far playing 4 empire states I've only received Warrior priests of Sigmar and a group of merc's who have swords/pike men / crossbowmen / light calvery / cannon
    AI factions get a metric ton of "special units" gifted to them through various scripts.

    Code:
    spawn_army 
                faction hre
                character    random_name, named character, x 30, y 71, family
                traits LoyaltyStarter 1 , NaturalMilitarySkill 1 , GoodCommander 2 , ReligionStarter 1 , man 1             
                 
    unit        Reiksguard bodyguard                exp 4 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
                 unit        Bright Wizard                exp 4 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
                 unit        witch hunters                exp 4 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
                 unit        Warpriests                exp 4 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
                 unit        Ulrpriest                exp 4 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
                 unit        Nuln enge with long rifle                exp 4 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
                 unit        Nuln enge                exp 4 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0
    Reikland get this every 12 turns as well as other more situational scripts that also gift Bright Wizards, Warpriests and Witch Hunters. Other factions have equivalent scripts.

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    I had never tried Weiseland, but those fellas get a lot f war with those scary Vampire counts stacks !

    I once was playing with Reikland & they would be in the brink of extintion because of those gotic lads & some bad bad bad orcs waag...

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    Not much happend when I played Wissenland last time. After I night attacked the Orc Armies, crushing them one by one in one turn, it was smooth sailing. The Blood Keep was a pain though, I had to wait until they had 3 stacks there before he started to attack me so I could face them 1v1 or 1v2. I used 3 mortars per stack since I had bad luck with the mercs and did not get any "monstrous thing slayers".

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    Ostland. Ostland by far I'd say, and I'm not sure why everyone says Stirland... Dwarves bring down 3 armies of 20 stacks each game, so does Ostland. You just kill the scripted Sylvania army going to Krugenheim when they both standing on the bridge. Other than that one easy-medium heroic victory and you won as Stirland by less than Turn 15.

    And in my games oddly, even across my 5 games with 50+ turns Sylvania has been destroyed by turn 20-25.

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    Default Re: Which is the best Empire state for scripted battles/activity?

    Gasoline, the best way to deal with the Blood keep is to besiege it on turn one. Don't worry about the beast men south, 90% of the time they don't attack you on turn one, they rather to go after the Dwarf settlement south west their position.
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    Yup, I totaly agree that Ostland gets most blood... All this based on my very own experience

    So I once saw an army of freakin Vampires bringing hell to their country... We had a very blody battle that they... those red dragon bastards are really mean killing machines!

    My chart would be:

    1.- Ostland
    2.- Weiseland (mostly because of the vamps)
    3.- Stirland (don't know why, but always this fellas get destroyed or ask for my help)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kazzthal View Post
    Yup, I totaly agree that Ostland gets most blood... All this based on my very own experience

    So I once saw an army of freakin Vampires bringing hell to their country... We had a very blody battle that they... those red dragon bastards are really mean killing machines!

    My chart would be:

    1.- Ostland
    2.- Weiseland (mostly because of the vamps)
    3.- Stirland (don't know why, but always this fellas get destroyed or ask for my help)

    Have any of you actually PLAYED a campaign as Stirland? I've played several, and even lost a few on vh/vh. In a single turn, I think its around 12, 4.... count them.... 4 scripted armies spawn, 2 heading for each of your southern towns. You can afford about 1 stack at the time, and you have no artillery yet. These are not standard undead troops either, they are elite. And that is not counting the other stacks that spawn, or the fact that undead victory conditions are to eliminate Stirland.

    That being said, calling a crusade in an early turn is a way to stop them, though I feel it is a little cheap, and the other factions will suffer badly from their armies leaving.

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    I'm never said that Stirland is not a hadr one!

    But in MY experience, Ostland gets constant raids of scripted armies, later in the game chaos wrath falls over them, Remember that all the scripted armies have are ramdom, so you'll not always get besieged by beastmen in your very early game.

    That's why in my chart (which I repeat is based on my experience) Ostland goes first, being Weiseland over Stirland just because I have experienced more Weiseland defeats than Stirland.

    P.S. Sorry for any syntax or grammar mistake, English is not my native.

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    Default Re: Which is the best Empire state for scripted battles/activity?

    Yes randomness does change things a bit

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