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    post your biggest diplomatic crisis's here. This can be one where you are inches away from war or losing an alliance that you need



    this was mine. That was once a seleukid fullstack which got demolished near the south tip of nabatai by a rebel fullstack so it went into my region and there it was attacked by another arabian stack so now its sitting near my cities.

    Seleukids are were my allies so I didnt want to move them yet

    they eventually attacked me at the worst possible time when I had a fullscale war with the ptolies and I ended up having a two front war with Arche going down both sides of arabia and Ptolemy slaughtering my troops in Egypt

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    In my current Casse game, I was allied with Lusotan, the Arverni, and the Getai. Unfortunately the Romani were as well.
    The Romani were cut off from me by the Arverni (their protectorates) and the Aedui, who I'm at war with. I planned on attacking them first, but I didn't get the chance. The moment we shared a border, however, the Romani attacked, breaking all my careful alliances.
    Now I am dealing with Lusotan to the south (they recently kicked Carthage out of Iberia and are able to focus on me exclusively, having declared war on me soon after breaking the alliance), the Getai to the east (There is only a thin line of elutheroi between them and my Germanic provinces, and the elutheroi are dropping rather quickly), and both the Romans and the Aedui in Gaul. The Arverni haven't joined the party yet nor to I expect them to, but if I ever want to regain power in Europe I will have to oust them eventually. I only had two standing armies at the start of this, but now I've moved up to four, which has drained my thankfully considerable coffers. Each turn is now a banquet of battle, and it is still pretty much at a standstill a decade after it all began.

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    Well Koinon campaign seems to have a "built-In" diplomatic crisis due to greek cities rebelling from their masters into my favour. Started with Hallikarnassus then Cheronesus and after Emporiae, wich routed my trade rights with Seleukia, Getai and Carthage. But the major crisis was the betrayal of my Ptolemaic Allies in Asia Minor wich has delayed my control on region were i was already at war wit Seleukia and Pontos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WateredDownCelt View Post
    In my current Casse game, I was allied with Lusotan, the Arverni, and the Getai. Unfortunately the Romani were as well.
    The Romani were cut off from me by the Arverni (their protectorates) and the Aedui, who I'm at war with. I planned on attacking them first, but I didn't get the chance. The moment we shared a border, however, the Romani attacked, breaking all my careful alliances.
    Now I am dealing with Lusotan to the south (they recently kicked Carthage out of Iberia and are able to focus on me exclusively, having declared war on me soon after breaking the alliance), the Getai to the east (There is only a thin line of elutheroi between them and my Germanic provinces, and the elutheroi are dropping rather quickly), and both the Romans and the Aedui in Gaul. The Arverni haven't joined the party yet nor to I expect them to, but if I ever want to regain power in Europe I will have to oust them eventually. I only had two standing armies at the start of this, but now I've moved up to four, which has drained my thankfully considerable coffers. Each turn is now a banquet of battle, and it is still pretty much at a standstill a decade after it all began.
    Those Romani are tricky bastards.

    Instead of raising the number of armies, why don't you withdraw form Europe altogether. Watch the monkies fight each other and build up your strength and attack when you see an opportunity.

    Withdraw from France and let the Lusos beat the crap out of the Romans. Brown death usually doenst defend iis homeland cities so well so they will have 20 stacks in italy and no stacks in spain. You can send a full invasin force to Spain and take their richest cities

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    That does look like a perfectly valid plan and an excellent path to eventual victory - however, I have devoted a lot of time and effort to carving out my empire (it is the year 201 BC or some such), and I haven't lost a single settlement to the enemy yet. I'm not even losing too many men - between the chariots, the druids, imported german "wolf" infantry, and assassinating my foes' best generals whenever possible before the battle begins, I am routing armies minutes into each battle, before my loses become substantial. Epeiros has also recently broken its alliance with Rome due to distant wars (it was another of its protectorates), so hopefully that will draw the Getai and the Romans away from western Europe for a bit so I can concentrate on the Iberians. Since I rule the seas and am more powerful militarily than any of my enemies by themselves, I think I can eventually conquer at least one, and then the rest.
    I have also been roleplaying a bit with this campaign, and the Casse, having liberated the Belgae from the Sweboz just 20 years ago, would be very slow to abandon them to foreign conquers so soon after liberating them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WateredDownCelt View Post
    That does look like a perfectly valid plan and an excellent path to eventual victory - however, I have devoted a lot of time and effort to carving out my empire (it is the year 201 BC or some such), and I haven't lost a single settlement to the enemy yet. I'm not even losing too many men - between the chariots, the druids, imported german "wolf" infantry, and assassinating my foes' best generals whenever possible before the battle begins, I am routing armies minutes into each battle, before my loses become substantial. Epeiros has also recently broken its alliance with Rome due to distant wars (it was another of its protectorates), so hopefully that will draw the Getai and the Romans away from western Europe for a bit so I can concentrate on the Iberians. Since I rule the seas and am more powerful militarily than any of my enemies by themselves, I think I can eventually conquer at least one, and then the rest.
    I have also been roleplaying a bit with this campaign, and the Casse, having liberated the Belgae from the Sweboz just 20 years ago, would be very slow to abandon them to foreign conquers so soon after liberating them.
    ahh i see, it would have been nice if I could have visualised your empire. I thought you had just invaded and finished off the gauls when the Romans attacked from south and lusos from south west.

    I have now seen your empire in the post your empires thread and I agree, it is not very practical to abandon it when you have most of Europe already

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    Oh yeah sorry about that! Should have posted an image or two, my bad.

    Also I dread to think what an unholy terror a battle with both the gray and yellow deaths would be, particularly as early Saba. How did that end up going?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WateredDownCelt View Post
    Oh yeah sorry about that! Should have posted an image or two, my bad.

    Also I dread to think what an unholy terror a battle with both the gray and yellow deaths would be, particularly as early Saba. How did that end up going?
    I quit after a rebellion in Meroe and Ubar switched to me. They gave me around 2000 peasant units in the same turn. I was broke the next turn meaning i couldn't retrain my army and A ptolemy sneak attack managed to take my capital

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    Mine is in my Epeiros campaign. I currently hold the entirety of Greece, Macedonia, Thrace, the west coast of Anatolia, Italy, and Sicily. I was Allied with the Ptolemoi but they betrayed me during a campaign against the Seleucids. I made peace the Seleucids and took the Ptolemoi's Anatolian cities. Then the Seleucids attacked me. I took Antioch no problem and fought all the way to Edessa with an elite army (literal elite units, all with either bronze or silver chevrons) with elephants commanded by my powerful faction leader. Now my army is severely weakened and holed up in Edessa, with my faction leader, while it's under siege by a Seleucid army. Meanwhile, Pontos is not helping at all in the Seleucid war effort, the Ptolemoi are attacking all the while, and I'm still engaged in a bloody war of attrition with the Romans, who have been kicked out of Italy but have a near impenetrable stronghold in the Alps and southern Germania/Gaul. I have an elite army, one who conquered Italy (most units have silver or gold chevrons), commanded by my faction heir fighting the Romans but I may need to move it to the Eastern front to bolster the weakened forces. I still have one stack of troops out east, but I need them to defend Antioch. Not to mention the Aedui and the Arverni want to take Massila from my hands! On the whole, it's one big mess and everyone wants to take a piece out of the Epirote Empire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Guiscard View Post
    Mine is in my Epeiros campaign. I currently hold the entirety of Greece, Macedonia, Thrace, the west coast of Anatolia, Italy, and Sicily. I was Allied with the Ptolemoi but they betrayed me during a campaign against the Seleucids. I made peace the Seleucids and took the Ptolemoi's Anatolian cities. Then the Seleucids attacked me. I took Antioch no problem and fought all the way to Edessa with an elite army (literal elite units, all with either bronze or silver chevrons) with elephants commanded by my powerful faction leader. Now my army is severely weakened and holed up in Edessa, with my faction leader, while it's under siege by a Seleucid army. Meanwhile, Pontos is not helping at all in the Seleucid war effort, the Ptolemoi are attacking all the while, and I'm still engaged in a bloody war of attrition with the Romans, who have been kicked out of Italy but have a near impenetrable stronghold in the Alps and southern Germania/Gaul. I have an elite army, one who conquered Italy (most units have silver or gold chevrons), commanded by my faction heir fighting the Romans but I may need to move it to the Eastern front to bolster the weakened forces. I still have one stack of troops out east, but I need them to defend Antioch. Not to mention the Aedui and the Arverni want to take Massila from my hands! On the whole, it's one big mess and everyone wants to take a piece out of the Epirote Empire
    I feel you there. When the Romans take the Alps you have to jump through hoops to get them out of there. its usually because the the mouth of italy is surrounded on 3 sides by enemies but also because the alps is just a poor place for hellenic factions to fight in general. The Romans will hole up there with about 20 stacks of vigiles.

    I recommend hiring an army of non-phlanax mercenaries (so many mercs available in italy and sicily) and going into the alsp, usign this flexible army, you will be less hesitant to go on the offensive (I sometimes have trouble being aggressive because I don't like seeing my shining elite army getting casualties)

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    Quote Originally Posted by seleucid empire View Post
    I recommend hiring an army of non-phlanax mercenaries (so many mercs available in italy and sicily) and going into the alsp, usign this flexible army, you will be less hesitant to go on the offensive (I sometimes have trouble being aggressive because I don't like seeing my shining elite army getting casualties)
    Hmm, I could recruit a Thracian and Illyrian force of shock infantry, light spearmen, and light/medium cavalry and fill in the holes with mercenaries from Italy. I still have the Seleucid and Ptolemaic problem, but that's going to require a long drawn out version of my military campaign against Makedon

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