[RELEASED SUBMOD] Fire and Blood [UPDATE - 0.9 STABILITY TEST VERSION RELEASED 12/6/15 ]

[Badger-dude]

That should be easy. I already added Rhaegar to the targ tree. Just add a Lyanna character record (dead), put her name after Rhaegars, and then add Aegon and Jon, both of whom need to be characters (not records)

A byzantine royal blood trait would be better for the Targ's. It is one of the things on my to do list.

I am currently working on adding Prophets ancillaries/Lordships into the game. They all work, I just need to add the scripts for 'inheriting' lordships.

[Badger-dude]

If the next book is released aroudn the time that I update Fire and Blood for 1.0, hopefully it will answer the

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mummer's dragon/red or black

question re: Aegon. That way, I can have House Blackfyre as an extra faction.

[Badger-dude]

As a personal preference, I would prefer to not add new traits to the game if it can be avoided. I will have to do so for these new characters for a 'biography' trait, but lets not get carried away.

The existing trait system should cover most eventualities.

http://www.gameadvice.com/pdf/Mediev...attleMoose.pdf

That document is very valuable. It is not complete, but it is more user friendly than other trait lists that I have used previously.

To create a new trait you need to add it to export_vnvs in text, and the corresponding file in data (export_desc_traits or something, I imagine. Name escape me)

[Uriyaca]

As a personal preference, I would prefer to not add new traits to the game if it can be avoided. I will have to do so for these new characters for a 'biography' trait, but lets not get carried away.

The existing trait system should cover most eventualities.

http://www.gameadvice.com/pdf/Mediev...attleMoose.pdf

That document is very valuable. It is not complete, but it is more user friendly than other trait lists that I have used previously.

To create a new trait you need to add it to export_vnvs in text, and the corresponding file in data (export_desc_traits or something, I imagine. Name escape me)

Wow, awesome document I shall use it. I might update Black Walder a bit
Also, he will be in the game, right?

[Badger-dude]

Wow, awesome document I shall use it. I might update Black Walder a bit
Also, he will be in the game, right?

I may be wrong, but I thought he was one of the Walder Frey's already in the game?

Here are all the current Frey's. They are the ones included in 0.53 - I have not modified them at all. I'm not sure which is which.

If you fancy writing out your entries as bellow, that would be great!

I will add label codes to differentiate between all the lemoncakes-ing Walders.

I don't hate Frey for the Red Wedding. I hate them for the number of Theon-ing sons!

character	Walder Frey, named character, male, leader, age 70, x 54, y 145, portrait oldwalder
traits Factionleader 1, BookCharacter 1 , Authoritarian 2 , RhetoricSkill 1 , LoyaltyStarter 1 , Intelligent 1 , GoodCommander 3 , GoodAdministrator 2 , GoodTrader 2 , PoliticsSkill 3 , StrategicSkill 1 , Corrupt 1 , Feck 1 , Liar 2 , Disloyal 2 , Perverted 1 , Fertile 3 , hatesthepoles 1
ancillaries twins, fool
army
unit		SE Bodyguard				exp 1 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0


character	Stevron Frey, named character, male, heir, age 56, x 56, y 145
traits BookCharacter 1 , FactionHeir 1 , LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 2 , GoodAdministrator 1 , StrategicSkill 1 , Fertile 1 , Brave 1
army
unit		SE Bodyguard				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0



character	Edwyn Frey, named character, male, heir, age 28, x 57, y 145
traits factionheir 1, BookCharacter 1 , LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , Liar 1 , PoliticsSkill 1 , GoodAdministrator 1 , Disloyal 2 , Drink 1 , Fertile 1
army
unit		SE Bodyguard				exp 1 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0

character	Ryman Frey, named character, male,age 42, x 53, y 145
traits BookCharacter 1 , LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 2 , GoodAdministrator 1 , BattleDread 1 , Drink 3 , Fertile 1
army
unit		NE Bodyguard				exp 0 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0

character	Emmon Frey, named character, male, age 59, x 24, y 97
traits BookCharacter 1 , LoyaltyStarter 1 , BadCommander 1 , Coward 1 , PublicFaith 2 , GoodAdministrator 1 , Austere 1 , Ugly 1 , Cuckold 1 , WifeIsWise 2 , WifeisEnglish 1
army
unit		SE Bodyguard				exp 0 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0

character	Cleos Frey, named character, male, age 33, x 24, y 98
traits BookCharacter 1 , LoyaltyStarter 1 , BadCommander 1 , Coward 2 , PublicFaith 1 , IndecisiveAttacker 1 , Royal_Relation_English 1
army
unit		SE Bodyguard				exp 0 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0



character	Walder Frey, named character, male, age 14, x 23, y 98
traits BookCharacter 1 , LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 1 , PublicFaith 1 , Brave 1 , Austere 2 , BattleChivalry 1 , Royal_Relation_English 1
army
unit		SE Bodyguard				exp 0 armour 1 weapon_lvl 0


character	Walder Rivers, named character, male, age 27, x 54, y 143, portrait walder
traits BookCharacter 1 , LoyaltyStarter 1 , GoodCommander 2 , Disciplinarian 1 , Anger 2 , BattleDread 2 , Bloodthirsty 1 , BadAdministrator 1 , Disloyal 2 , Fertile 1
army
unit		SE Bodyguard				exp 0 armour 0 weapon_lvl 0



character	Roslin Frey, princess, female, age 14, x 54, y 144 
traits IAmPrincess 1 , PrettyWoman 2 , NaturalPrincess 1 , FertileWoman 1



character_record		Perra, 		female, age 70, dead 13, never_a_leader
character_record		Jyanna,		female, age 56, alive, never_a_leader
character_record		Wynafrei,	female, age 42, alive, never_a_leader

relative 	Walder Frey, 	Perra,		Stevron Frey,	Roslin Frey,	end
relative 	Stevron Frey,	Jyanna,		Ryman Frey,	end
relative 	Ryman Frey,	Wynafrei,	Edwyn Frey,	Walder Rivers,	end

[Korpskog]

The freys in game 0.6 are

Freys of the Twins
Lord Walder Frey
Stevron Frey
Ryman Frey
Edwyn Frey - Walder Frey (Black)
Roslin Frey

Lannister Freys
Emmon Frey
Cleos Frey
Walder Frey (Red)

[Korpskog]

I have to ask, why would you want to add Jon as a Targaryen? Would it not be better to have him as a Stark north of Last Hearth before he takes the wows of the nights watch?

[SoulGamesInc]

I have to ask, why would you want to add Jon as a Targaryen? Would it not be better to have him as a Stark north of Last Hearth before he takes the wows of the nights watch?

Well with Ned in the South, Jon would already be a member of The Nights Watch.

I went over a number of ideas as to the location to place Jon, but Targaryen being the main story focus it felt right to place Jon with the Targs seeing as if the R+L theory is right, he will have the family name Targaryen and not Stark, this way i can slowly rise Jon to the Iron Throne and use his Stark Relations to form an alliance once Kings Landing is mine, and the Stag is dealt with.

Overall I'm one of the people that think R+L is right, she loved the prince and went with him willingly. Robert would have people believe he was mad, like his farther... but that was not the case and she never liked the idea of being married to Robert, stating to Ned a number of times about her worries that Roberts love for her would not be strong enough to keep him faithful and how Robert already had bastard children, Ned disagreed saying he would change after the wedding. I was thinking about spawning Jon in The North outside Last Hearth with some "Nights Watch" units, but i would have no idea where to start making new units and i have a feeling he would be outnumbered and be forced to kill his own family... so i scrapped that idea.

I'll be doing some basic video guide's on adding custom characters, traits, ancillary's, portraits etc for my subscribers in the future due to a number of requests from viewers wanting to add their own custom stuff into the game. (with my limited knowledge, if i can do it anyone can )

[Greyjoy]

Well with Ned in the South, Jon would already be a member of The Nights Watch.

I went over a number of ideas as to the location to place Jon, but Targaryen being the main story focus it felt right to place Jon with the Targs seeing as if the R+L theory is right, he will have the family name Targaryen and not Stark, this way i can slowly rise Jon to the Iron Throne and use his Stark Relations to form an alliance once Kings Landing is mine, and the Stag is dealt with.

Overall I'm one of the people that think R+L is right, she loved the prince and went with him willingly. Robert would have people believe he was mad, like his farther... but that was not the case and she never liked the idea of being married to Robert, stating to Ned a number of times about her worries that Roberts love for her would not be strong enough to keep him faithful and how Robert already had bastard children, Ned disagreed saying he would change after the wedding. I was thinking about spawning Jon in The North outside Last Hearth with some "Nights Watch" units, but i would have no idea where to start making new units and i have a feeling he would be outnumbered and be forced to kill his own family... so i scrapped that idea.

I'll be doing some basic video guide's on adding custom characters, traits, ancillary's, portraits etc for my subscribers in the future due to a number of requests from viewers wanting to add their own custom stuff into the game. (with my limited knowledge, if i can do it anyone can )

Would you still make him Faction Heir despite him being a bastard of Rhaegar and not a legitimate child?

[Badger-dude]

Re: Strings file - If you make any change to any file in /data/text, it is always a good idea to delete the strings.bin version.

The string file is a stringtable that the game generate on startup. However, if you make changes it might not auto update, so best to delete it manually.



Have a look at what you can find. When I am free I will have a look aswell

[megells]

I've created a submod of Fire And Blood for personal entertainment about Rhaegar returning to Westeros rather than Daenerys and in it Jon is the faction heir. But as far as this scenario goes I'm not sure about Jon being a Targaryen general for Daenerys, as I doubt she would ever find out about Jon being Rhaegar's son if it is true, which I hope so, unless someone who knows (the only one for fact is Howland Reed, although I suspect Barristan would know as well) tells her.

[stefan1921]

I've created a submod of Fire And Blood for personal entertainment about Rhaegar returning to Westeros rather than Daenerys and in it Jon is the faction heir. But as far as this scenario goes I'm not sure about Jon being a Targaryen general for Daenerys, as I doubt she would ever find out about Jon being Rhaegar's son if it is true, which I hope so, unless someone who knows (the only one for fact is Howland Reed, although I suspect Barristan would know as well) tells her.

Jon would never EVER betray the Starks or his father (Eddard, as far as he knows), even if he knew that he was Rhaegar's son.

By the way both Eddard and Howland Reed should be very much battlescared becuase of their grueling battle with the Kingsguard.

[Uriyaca]

Some wierdass bug....

That never happened to me before when playing TW. Ever

[Badger-dude]

AFAIK I already gave Robert most of those

Robert's command will be lowered in the next version, don't you worry. He is meant to be a 5/6 star general, at best.

Some wierdass bug....

That never happened to me before when playing TW. Ever

Yeah, that happens all the time in Westeros and its submods.

I think it is due to the lack of wait entries in the campaign script, so it gets stuck between the normal game time and the Westeros time script firing to counter it...

[megells]

Jon would never EVER betray the Starks or his father (Eddard, as far as he knows), even if he knew that he was Rhaegar's son.

I don't think he would either. Nor do I think it possible for Rhaegar Targaryen to be alive considering he's dead and all, hence why it's a fictional little project I worked on for myself.

[stefan1921]

I don't think he would either. Nor do I think it possible for Rhaegar Targaryen to be alive considering he's dead and all, hence why it's a fictional little project I worked on for myself.

LOL

[Guti00]

I've created a submod of Fire And Blood for personal entertainment about Rhaegar returning to Westeros rather than Daenerys and in it Jon is the faction heir. But as far as this scenario goes I'm not sure about Jon being a Targaryen general for Daenerys, as I doubt she would ever find out about Jon being Rhaegar's son if it is true, which I hope so, unless someone who knows (the only one for fact is Howland Reed, although I suspect Barristan would know as well) tells her.

megells
I look forward to your mod, Rhaegar is my idol and I wish you don't stop the project

[megells]

megells
I look forward to your mod, Rhaegar is my idol and I wish you don't stop the project

Whether or not other people can play it will be up to Badger-Dude of course, if he didn't have a problem with it then I'd gladly give all of you something to mess around with while waiting for the main mod to be released.
Oh and Badger, if you need my help with anything you only need ask.

[BericDondarrion]

I was just wondering if this submod is compatible with steam because everytime I extract the file into my modfolder and run the .bat I can get to the faction selection screen but whenever I try start a campaign it crashes. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?

[Red Viper]

I was just wondering if this submod is compatible with steam because everytime I extract the file into my modfolder and run the .bat I can get to the faction selection screen but whenever I try start a campaign it crashes. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?

Google Kingdoms Launcher Application, download it. It makes your life a lot easier having different mods on Steam.