HRW releases satellite images of mass property burnings in Burma

[removeduser_487563287433]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20106768

HRW has released pictures showing mass damage that occurred in the town of Kyaukpyu, western Burma, some time between 9th and 25th October. HRW claims 800 homes and houseboats have been destroyed, and at least 64 people killed in the state in the last week - although it says it expects the real figure to be much higher.

The victims are Muslim Rohingyas, targeted by non-Muslims, mostly Buddhist. Hundreds of thousands of refugees have already fled to Bangladesh, which has been saying for some time already that its ability to cope with them is already overwhelmed - refugees are now being refused entry at the border.

The Burmese Government has been widely criticised for their inadequate response to the communal violence since it broke out in June over the rape of a Buddhist woman. Worse, the Burmese Government refuses to acknowledge the Rohingya as a Burmese minority at all (as the UN defines them) and instead claims they are recent immigrants from Bangladesh.

Burma is an incredibly delicate situation, with the military junta very slowly reforming the state and the long suppressed democratic party finally earning seats in the first free elections in decades. Currently it is clear the Government has no intention to extend these reforms to the minorities within Burma.

[John ''True Grit'' Wayne]

The BBC is no longer a worthy source they cover up the rape and molestation of kids.

[AqD]

Why don't they just convert to Buddhism? How does their belief help them aside from getting them hated and killed?

[removeduser_487563287433]

Why don't they just convert to Buddhism? How does their belief help them aside from getting them hated and killed?

How does anybody's?

[Blaze86420]

Why don't they just convert to Buddhism? How does their belief help them aside from getting them hated and killed?

How do you even respond to this ?

Why in the hell would you even post something like that? Can you please explain to me what purpose your post served besides making us in awe of it's sheer stupidity?

EDIT: it, I'm putting this in my signature, too good to pass up.

[Phier]

How do you even respond to this ?

Why in the hell would you even post something like that? Can you please explain to me what purpose your post served besides making us in awe of it's sheer stupidity?

EDIT: it, I'm putting this in my signature, too good to pass up.

Because there is no god, and it beats being beating figuratively or literally.

It worked wonders for those occupied by other religions in the past, or do you think Islam was spread by missionary work?

[motiv-8]

It worked wonders for those occupied by other religions in the past, or do you think Islam was spread by missionary work?

Well yes, it was. Any other questions?

[Phier]

Well yes, it was. Any other questions?

So good to hear from my favorite Islam apologist.

I'm sure places like Turkey would have been Islamic even without those little invasions. I bet Greece will switch any day.

[Eofor]

Because there is no god, and it beats being beating figuratively or literally.

It worked wonders for those occupied by other religions in the past, or do you think Islam was spread by missionary work?

What the hell do the actions of people living 1400 years ago in another part of the world have to do with this, other than that they share the same religion?

[Blaze86420]

Because there is no god, and it beats being beating figuratively or literally.

It worked wonders for those occupied by other religions in the past, or do you think Islam was spread by missionary work?

Please, enlighten us Phier, remind us of the Islamic army that conquered Burma.

[Sir Winston Churchill]

How do you even respond to this ?

Why in the hell would you even post something like that? Can you please explain to me what purpose your post served besides making us in awe of it's sheer stupidity?

EDIT: it, I'm putting this in my signature, too good to pass up.

Man you overreact.

[Blaze86420]

Man you overreact.

No, look here broski, my reaction is warranted just like it was to your ty attitude in a thread on the very same topic. Yeah, I didn't forget about that thread, unlike a certain person *cough cough* who pretended to after having someone call him out on his BS.

[AqD]

How do you even respond to this ?

Why in the hell would you even post something like that? Can you please explain to me what purpose your post served besides making us in awe of it's sheer stupidity?

Because I found their reactions completely unreasonable?

PS: I replied this at there since it's no longer political.

[Stavroforos]

Burma? Is that in Indochina or the Raj? I mean, I know it's north of New Holland though.

[Menelik_I]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-20106768

HRW has released pictures showing mass damage that occurred in the town of Kyaukpyu, western Burma, some time between 9th and 25th October. HRW claims 800 homes and houseboats have been destroyed, and at least 64 people killed in the state in the last week - although it says it expects the real figure to be much higher.

The victims are Muslim Rohingyas, targeted by non-Muslims, mostly Buddhist. Hundreds of thousands of refugees have already fled to Bangladesh, which has been saying for some time already that its ability to cope with them is already overwhelmed - refugees are now being refused entry at the border.

The Burmese Government has been widely criticised for their inadequate response to the communal violence since it broke out in June over the rape of a Buddhist woman. Worse, the Burmese Government refuses to acknowledge the Rohingya as a Burmese minority at all (as the UN defines them) and instead claims they are recent immigrants from Bangladesh.

Burma is an incredibly delicate situation, with the military junta very slowly reforming the state and the long suppressed democratic party finally earning seats in the first free elections in decades. Currently it is clear the Government has no intention to extend these reforms to the minorities within Burma.

What are the implications of not being recognized as a minority ?

As far as I remember being a minority in Burma generally goes hand in hand with rebellion and secessionist movements, but I am not sure.

There is more to the Burmese situation than democratic transition, and this is making the situation crazier because it is really a case of Xenophobia fueled by messy border drawing, so even a democratic elected government in Burma might follow the Rohingya killing.

[removeduser_487563287433]

They aren't just not recognised as a minority, they're not recognised as citizens.

[Menelik_I]

They aren't just not recognised as a minority, they're not recognised as citizens.

That is ed up, but I guess there is no hope for them because they have secessionist tendencies, which explains why Rangoon Nobel peace prize winner and the Burmese democracy crowd is not making too much noise about them since breaking the country is not popular with most people and the Army would go medieval on their asses too if that happened.

They should probably move to Bengladesh, this is one of those sad cases of SNAFU were nothing can be done.

[removeduser_487563287433]

they have secessionist tendencies

Source? And can you explain to me why you appear to be saying this means their human rights are irrelevant?

[Menelik_I]

Source?

The Mujahid party was founded by Rohingya elders who supported Jihad movement in northern Arakan in 1947.[38] The aim of the Mujahid party was to create a Muslim Autonomous state in Arakan. They were much more active before the 1962 Burmese coup d'état by General Ne Win. Ne Win carried out some military operations targeting them over a period of two decades.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_people#Post-war

And can you explain to me why you appear to be saying this means their human rights are irrelevant?

I not saying that their human rights are irrelevant, I am just saying that they are between a rock and a hard place politically because the Army is not going to want to lose face and the Pro-democracy crowd wouldn't want to openly support secession for fear of having the army going medieval on them too and probably are very nationalist themselves or even are Xenophobic themselves to some degree .

Now does saying that they are screwed means that I am saying that their rights are irrelevant ? English sure is evolving at the speed of stupid.

Now if you want to invade Burma with British girl-scouts to save them, be my guest.

[removeduser_487563287433]

I not saying that their human rights are irrelevant

Why are you citing events of seventy years ago as if it is a source? And yes, that's exactly what you're arguing. You're arguing this is all fine because seventy years ago there was a political party that wanted independence for these people.

I see what Menelik is saying. He's not blaming the victim, Ferrets.

Are you being sarcastic?