A statement on behalf of, Aden, the Black Prince.

[imb39]

Dear All. This is a statement on behalf of my client, Aden, the Black Prince.

Some time ago, the Quaestor Garbarsardar, in association with the Praetor Belisarius, and in breach of the staff policy of public unity, and Garbarsardar's own calls for staff to work together, initiated a case against the then Quaestor the Black Prince with the Consilium de Civitate. The Black Prince believes the prosecution to be a continuance of a long running vendetta that Garbarsardar has held against my client and which has been the subject of numerous complaints to the senior staff, all of which have been ignored, and on at least 1 occasion summarily deleted by the Imperator. Following the eventual completion of the trial the CdeC aquitted the Black Prince of the charges of threatening a client in an attempt to influence a vote and of abusing the patron/client relationship. The CdeC did find the Black Prince guilty of attempting to blackmail staff and sentenced him to a 1 month suspention of his rank, effective from the 26th July 2006 until the 26th August 2006.

My client, the Black Prince wishes to thank the numerous people who have posted and above all PMed him with messages of support. Despite there being numerous grounds for appealing this judgement, the Black Prince does not wish to do so, as he believes a further prolonged and public appeal to not be in the best interests of the Curia, or of TWC. The Black Prince does wish to note however that neither the trial procedure, nor the method of judgement were conducted in accordance with the rules of the version of the Civitates Behavior Act that was in force when the trial was conducted. He also wishes to make it known that the trial procedure was grossly unfair to the defence, and to a certain extend to the alleged victim, that evidence vital to the defence was not made available to the defence team, that the staff refused to disclose necessary evidence.

Both myself and my client find it highly hypocritical that the body responsible for upholding and enforcing the Constitution and the Laws is itself acting in breach of them.

The Black Prince, whilst declining to appeal the judgement of the CdeC in this matter, calls for the civitates to engage in a full and proper review of the current civitates behavior act to ensure that future trials are conducted in a fair and just manner.

The Black Prince, in responding to calls for the trail to be made public has no problem with the transcripts of the trial being made public, but suggests that some caution is necessary for a full disclosure, regarding the publication of private data used as evidence. For a proper trial to be conducted it should be conducted in the public domain save for where such a situation would compromise or be otherwise unjust and unreasonable to a witness victim or defendant.

M Weait, Defence Counsel
Defence Team for the Black Prince

[Sétanta]

All the more reason for the trials to be made public so we can judge the work of our elected officials.

[Romanos]

Thanks for posting this make the case against tbp more clear and easier to understand the situation (it for some reason I knew that Garbarsardar was the spear).

[Shaun]

Thats a real shame if you ask me, one of TWCs oldest and most respected members got hos civitatehood stripped from him. I just hope that the people who pursue vendettas are happy now...

[imb39]

Remeber, this is one person's point of view...

[RZZZA]

Its impossible to discern the truth, each party has their own version of it. I knew tBP would have an interesting story to tell. It is a shame this mudslinging has to be going on, that we even have to hear about such unpleasantries as vendettas. Must everything have its own version of the illuminati?

[Tostig]

If tBP is going to become such a boring lawyer then I request for the second time that he obeys the rules of the forum. Explicitly stated in the General Forum Rules thread is this:

9) Basic users who use any signature image(s) of any allowed size will be limited to three (3) lines of standard sized text in their signatures below the signature images.

tBP is a basic user, but has a whopping eight lines of text after his image! A clear and utter disregard for the sacred rules of these forums!

Why, how meek it is to refuse to challenge the system through the system, instead writing malicious, insubstanciated personal attacks which cannot be verified. If he truly thought it injust then surely he would have appealed, but instead he has chosen to vilify a few people and attempt to become the victim - the blackmailer (and, since you have not seen fit to reply I assume I am perfectly within my rights to call him such, along with the victim of a terrible persecution! When "and to a certain extend to the alleged victim" is so innocently said who is it referring to? The poor person breaking the ToS or the real injured party, the one who was suffering from the odious and vicious crime of blackmail?

I do not understand the specifics of the case, being only an untercivitate, but I do understand that this malefactor is trying to weasel his way out of the system on a technicality. If technicalities matter so much then why don't they apply when it comes to his own signature?

I ask to join the list of those with a vendetta against tBP. In my brief time here I have seen him act in many ways which I would consider unbecoming of a citizen. And I don't like Coca-Cola to boot.

[Ragabash]

This is the reason why the transcripts of the trial should be made public.

It's hard to evaluate and question actions of the CdeC if we are not allowed to see what are the reasons behind their decisions, but there is already discussion in Prothalamos regarding this so let us not bring it here.

It will be hard to question CdeC decision or the Black Prince statement without the transcripts of the trial. That's why I will stay neutral until we allowed to see them.

[Kagemusha]

This is my personal opinion.But if the Black Prince thinks that he was ill treated,or a victim of Vendetta from Garbarsardar.He can always start a case against him,if he has proof to back his accusations.

[imb39]

It's not tBP...

[Tostig]

You are correct, it is "M Weait" working on behalf of tBP and representing him. If you want I shall go through my post with a fine toothed comb in order to specify "those representing the interests of tBP, including tBP, who has expressed these opinions before and elsewhere where he is or has been able to do so in person." However I would find such an action asinine in the extreme, but there we seem to have a difference in opinion.

[imb39]

I mean, it was my sig... I have now reduced it... Though my text is NEXT to the image and not under...

[RZZZA]

rofflez!

[Tostig]

But do you not deny that the signature of the plebeian "the Black Prince" breaks the rules?

My point is simply that if he, or rather his defence team, is going to be extremely scrupulous about the law, then first of all I would expect them to fight it according to the law, not by attacking an individual's character in this underhand manner, and secondly I would expect that tBP would at least ensure that his signature obeyed the laws just as scrupulously, given the bad light it has caused him to cast on himself in the past.

:inqusitio

[Gaius Baltar]

I mean, it was my sig... I have now reduced it...

Look, its a bird, no its a plane, ...its Jefe de la inquisición

Please refer to my bill currently posted in the Prothalamus dealing with CDeC trial records. Exact wording of bill in post #33. Thanks for your support.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...06#post1102506

You may also cast a ballot in the Suggestus poll on this same issue.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=56899

[imb39]

Look, its a bird, no its a plane, ...its Jefe de la inquisición

Please refer to my bill currently posted in the Prothalamus dealing with CDeC trial records. Exact wording of bill in post #33. Thanks for your support.

The CDC is working on a counter proposal which might suit everyone and go beyond your ideas... It was also be discussed with tBP (as he has some experience, as it were) but this is all off topic...

[Gaius Baltar]

The CDC is working on a counter proposal which might suit everyone and go beyond your ideas... It was also be discussed with tBP (as he has some experience, as it were) but this is all off topic...

Im sure the CDEC counter proposal will treat us all like UN observers on the Lebanese border.

Im sticking to my guns and will take my bill, as is, to vote ASAP.

[Freddie]

I sense a conspiracy here. For a start as far as posters go tbp walks all over Garbarsardar, and why can’t we have a look at the transcripts or the evidence to this trail? What is there to hide?

[Romanos]

I sense a conspiracy here. For a start as far as posters go tbp walks all over Garbarsardar, and why can’t we have a look at the transcripts or the evidence to this trail? What is there to hide?

Sorry but there no conspiracy, and like Lusted said there was a thread for the evidence.
here's one of many thread that evidence is shown The Black Prince Evidence File

[Belisarius]

Oh, the Drama. I would reply to tBP's claims, but there is no point. He was punished for what he did wrong and he will serve his time and come back. Ah well, Sulla will probably come in and post and that will mean we will wait till the next interesting kaffafle.