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    Default Looking to replace my Alienware

    Hi. So after a long and largely unhappy relationship with Dell I'm now looking for a new high performance laptop...

    I have previously had good experiences with ASUS and therefore I am currently looking at the G75VW and G55VW models. So I just want to know if there are anyone here who can recommend those?

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    Default Re: Looking to replace my Alienware

    Nobody in their right minds would do that.
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    General Questions

    1) What is your budget?

    2) What size notebook would you prefer?

    a. Netbook; 10” screen or less
    b. Ultraportable; 11" - 12” screen
    c. Thin and Light; 13" - 14" screen
    d. Mainstream; 15" - 16" screen
    e. Desktop Replacement; 17"+ screen
    3) Where will you buying this notebook? You can select the flag of your country as an indicator.

    4) Are there any brands that you prefer or any you really don't like?
    a. Like:
    b. Dislike:
    5) Would you consider laptops that are refurbished/redistributed?

    6) What are the primary tasks will you be performing with this notebook?

    7) Will you be taking the notebook with you to different places, leaving it on your desk or both?

    8) Will you be playing games on your notebook? If so, please state which games or types of games?

    9) How many hours of battery life do you need?

    10) Would you prefer to see the notebooks you're considering before purchasing it or buying a notebook on-line without seeing it is OK?

    11) What OS do you prefer? Windows (XP or Vista or Windows 7), Mac OS, Linux, etc.

    Screen Specifics

    12) From the choices below, what screen resolution(s) would you prefer? Keep in mind screen size in conjunction with resolution will play a large role in overall viewing comfort level. Everyone is different. Some like really small text, while others like their text big and easy to read. Click here for Screen resolution information.

    13) Do you want a Glossy/reflective screen or a Matte/non-glossy screen?

    Build Quality and Design

    14) Are the notebook's looks and stylishness important to you?

    15) When are you buying this laptop?

    16) How long do you want this laptop to last?

    Notebook Components

    17) How much hard drive space do you need; 80GB to 640GB? Do you want a SSD drive?

    18) Do you need an optical drive? If yes, a DVD Burner, Blu-ray Reader or Blu-Ray Burner?

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    Please state any additional features you need. It's also helpful if you can indicate how experienced you are with computers. If you're a novice and don't know much, that's alright. Everyone's a novice at some point.



    Glossary and Explanations

    Glossy vs. Matte Screen

    Matte screens have an anti-reflective coating. Glossy screens generally offer more contrast and colors are more vivid. They do however produce more glare. Some people like them, others do not. The glare problem is most acute in well lit environments, like an office. Glossy screens tend to be better for multimedia uses like viewing DVDs or photos. If you are unfamiliar with the screen types, we would highly recommend you check some of each type out before you buy. The screen is one of the more important parts on a notebook. You don't want to get stuck with something you don't like.


    SSD (Solid State Drive)

    A solid state drive is a flash based storage device which uses non-volatile NAND memory chips instead of the traditional mechanical rotating disk and reading head. This newer technology drives perform much faster since they dont need spin up. Think of it as using your RAM as your hard drive. It consumes less power since there are no mechanical moving parts, this in turn also gives SSD's the advantage of running cooler. They are also impervious from damage by vibration, shock and magnetism.

    The downsides compared to a traditional HD is it lacks storage capacity and the cost is much higher per GB.


    Screen resolution

    If you are unsure of what to purchase, we would highly recommend you check some notebook screens before you buy to see what you like. You may also wish to take a look at the notebook screen guide for more information.

    Netbook resolution: WSVGA
    Actual resolutions: 1024x600 and 1024x576
    Offered on Netbooks 10" and smaller
    Netbook standard resolution. This is the lowest resolution available, and is designed to easily read text and icons on smaller-sized netbook screens. However, this leads to a somewhat “crowded” display that can generally only handle one visible window at a time. Typically not available on larger machines.
    Standard Resolutions: WXGA, HD, 720p
    Actual resolutions: 1280x800 and 1366x768
    Offered on larger Netbooks and Notebooks up to 16"
    Lower resolution screens offer big text and icons that are easy to read. Less stuff fits on the screen, which translates into more scrolling. Multiple windows can be worked with, though they may have to overlap some.
    Midrange Resolutions: WXGA+, HD+, 900p
    Actual resolutions: 1440x900 and 1600x900
    Offered on all Notebooks. Keep in mind text will be very small on a 12" WXGA+ notebook.
    A set of in-between resolution options that are found on some machines. Considered base resolution on 17" inch and higher laptops. Text and icons are smaller than standard resolution screens, and more windows fit onto the screen. These resolutions are very good for working with multiple windows side-by-side, without having to overlap them.
    Maximum Resolutions: WSXGA+, WUXGA, FHD, 1080p
    Actual resolutions: 1680x1050, 1920x1200 and 1920x1080
    Offered on Notebook 15" and larger
    On these screens text and icons will be very small. Text can often be hard to read, though some do like it. A very large number of windows fit on the screen, and there will be little need to overlap any of them. Max resolution screens are good for applications that require high detail (CAD, graphics editing, etc.)



    Typical Definitions of Refurbished Notebooks

    Refurbished notebooks often come at significantly lower prices and are generally covered by warranties by Dell, HP, and Lenovo. Lenovo generally has a universal 1 year warranty, while Dell has standard 3 on their business lines and 1 on consumer laptops (all extendable). HP offers a choice of 1 or 3 years. Other stores like Tiger Direct only offer 90 days. These laptops are in conditions ranging from being never powered on to scratch and dent (but still fully operational).

    Refurbished:
    Laptops that may or may not have been powered on.
    Laptops that may or may not have the security seal of the box broken.
    Laptops that may or may not have been used.
    Laptops that may or may not have minimal cosmetic "scratches".

    Redistributed:
    Laptops that where ordered and never delivered.
    Laptops that where place on order but never shipped.
    Laptops that where ordered but then canceled and never shipped.
    Laptop is new and sealed in box.
    Laptop has never been turned on.
    Security seal is not broken.
    Laptop is in mint condition.

    Scratch & Dent:
    Laptop has been turned on.
    Laptop has been used before.
    Security seal is broken.
    Laptop may have noticeable cosmetic dents.
    Laptop was fully restored to manufacturing state.

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    Default Re: Looking to replace my Alienware

    Wow, that was about as unhelpful as it could possibly get. Why did you even bother?

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    Default Re: Looking to replace my Alienware

    if you didnt want help why bother posting? I take that you can read, there are reviews.

    in your mind there are only 2 OEMs that make gaming notebooks, problem is asus doesnt make them anymore.

    we deliver what we receive

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    Default Re: Looking to replace my Alienware

    I got this brand. http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/

    Pretty good. Absolutely no problem yet, and I've had it for 4 months. So far, they had good customer support when I kept on annoyingly asked them when it was going to be shipped. It's your opinion. Just a suggestion, I've personally never had any relation to Asus, but I did Dell.

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    I can recommend the G55VW as thats what my friend has. He got it shipped to him and it's worked great since. With any hardware just make sure you keep it updated and protected from malicious software with a respected antiviral company.


    It doesn't have as good specs as some of it's dell counterparts, maxing out with:
    • i7-3610QM
    • 16GB @1.6GHz
    • 1TB @5400RPM HDD
    • GTX 660M W/ 2GB GDDR5 ( Current games as of 2012 run moderately well in 1080p resolution and high details. )
    Thats definantly not the best laptop for gaming but I do know ASUS has outstanding customer support, and you won't be talking to some guy in Pakistan who barely speaks English.

    I'd imagine with the G75VW you will get similar reliability with greater components. However with the increase in price you're also paying for that special "Premium" that comes along with every flagship model.

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    Default Re: Looking to replace my Alienware

    did you went for sager or msi?

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    Default Re: Looking to replace my Alienware

    asus is not known for outstanding customer support, quite the opposite. And the current batch of G series is filled with Q&A issues, actually most of their notebooks right now is suffering from that, specially their zenbook line

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karamazovmm View Post
    asus is not known for outstanding customer support, quite the opposite. And the current batch of G series is filled with Q&A issues, actually most of their notebooks right now is suffering from that, specially their zenbook line
    ASUS has good customer support :|, I've never had any problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomascreel View Post
    ASUS has good customer support :|, I've never had any problems.
    one of the lucky ones them, apple has good customer support was I granted one when I needed? no.

    and no, asus customer support has gone down the drains

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    Default Re: Looking to replace my Alienware

    Quote Originally Posted by Karamazovmm View Post
    one of the lucky ones them, apple has good customer support was I granted one when I needed? no.

    and no, asus customer support has gone down the drains
    Well guess I was lucky then. I've only had good experiences with ASUS. The laptop I had before my Alienware never failed in the 3-4 years I had it. My Dell has died 3-4 times on me within 2 years... I will certainly never buy a Dell product, ever.

    But let's assume that ASUS has gone to hell ever since. What brand would you guys recommend me? I'm not looking for the A++ brands as they cost way too much, I'm just looking for something reasonable and reliable, and yes, I already know that I'll get a far better deal with a desktop...
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    ASUS has terrible support, they are well known to screw customers over on products and replacements or not even bother checking items they send off

    a forum member sends off a board with minor issues this is what he got back from ASUS thats a motherboard, they have been having issues with GPUs laptops and many other products,
    Images are huge so placed them in a spoiler tag
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    CPU: i7 3770K 4.6GHz / i7 4930K 4.4 GHz / i7 4770K 4.6 GHz
    CPU HSF: Thermaltake Water 2.0 Pro / Review Samples / Review Samples
    MOBO: Biostar TZ77XE4 / ASRock X79 Fatal1ty Champion / MSI Z87 GD65 Gaming
    RAM: Mushkin Redlines 2x4GB 1866 MHz / 4x4GB Gskill 2133 MHz / 2x4GB Kingston 2400 MHz
    GPU: Integrated / GTX 780 / HD 5450 Passive
    PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 1050w 80+ GOLD / NZXT Hale82 650w Modular / same
    CASE: Nanoxia DS1 / Nanoxia DS1 / Lian Li Test Bench
    HDD: 160 HDD / 512GB SSD + 120GB SSD + 5.5TB HDD / 60gb SSD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazyeyesreaper View Post
    ASUS has terrible support, they are well known to screw customers over on products and replacements or not even bother checking items they send off
    Wow that really is horrendous. Did he RMA it twice?

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    Default Re: Looking to replace my Alienware

    try the msi gt60 or gt70, sager np9150 np9170

    put a 680m or a 7970m on both

    thing is I dont know the budget, I dont know the size of the notebook that you prefer, I dont know the batter life that you want

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karamazovmm View Post
    try the msi gt60 or gt70, sager np9150 np9170

    put a 680m or a 7970m on both

    thing is I dont know the budget, I dont know the size of the notebook that you prefer, I dont know the batter life that you want
    Imo sagers are trash. When was the last time they upgraded their chassis?

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    Default Re: Looking to replace my Alienware

    Quote Originally Posted by Sukiyama View Post
    Imo sagers are trash. When was the last time they upgraded their chassis?
    this year. by that standard apple is trash as well, thinkpads are trash as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karamazovmm View Post
    this year. by that standard apple is trash as well, thinkpads are trash as well...
    Well no, but I never liked their products. I had a 17 inch model and a 15 inch model(this year actually). The trackpad was flaky and the heat was ridiculous. I ended up selling both of them. I guess you have a point about macs and thinkpads. They're great laptops even though the design is basically the same year to year but, I guess I just don't like Clevo's plain design language. They need to rework their cooling imo, their laptops get way too hot.

    As a desktop replacement the Sager is great imo, but as a portable gaming station it doesn't have much besides great internal hardware and connectivity(USBs and Ethernet).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sukiyama View Post
    Well no, but I never liked their products. I had a 17 inch model and a 15 inch model(this year actually). The trackpad was flaky and the heat was ridiculous. I ended up selling both of them. I guess you have a point about macs and thinkpads. They're great laptops even though the design is basically the same year to year but, I guess I just don't like Clevo's plain design language. They need to rework their cooling imo, their laptops get way too hot.

    As a desktop replacement the Sager is great imo, but as a portable gaming station it doesn't have much besides great internal hardware and connectivity(USBs and Ethernet).
    what model did you had? in terms of cooling it goes this way

    AW>clevo>samsung Im not going to put asus because even samsung makes more powerful notebooks than that asus g series.

    Sincerely if you got the P series there is nothing wrong with your cooling. cpu and gpu will stay around 80-90c which is very comfortable for a notebook

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