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    Default Sudan accused Israel of blowing up Persian weapon factory

    http://news.yahoo.com/did-israel-jus...123235893.html


    The gist: An Iranian weapon factory in Sudan was blown up, and Sudan accuses Israel for the attack.
    From the article:
    "The Sudanese government is blaming Israel for an explosion at a munitions plant in Khartoum early yesterday morning that Israeli media say was owned by Iran's Revolutionary Guard and made arms for Hamas."
    Their goverment said it's not rebels or insurgents because of the high tech used in the attack.

    Also, keep in mind this:
    "BBC News diplomatic correspondent Jonathan Marcus writes that while Sudan has yet to offer any proof of Israel's involvement in the explosion, the claim "is by no means as outlandish as it might sound. For a bitter secret war has been going on for a number of years between Israel and Hamas, with Sudan apparently very much one of the battlegrounds." "


    Can't say I would be suprised if Israel did that, can't say I would be suprised if it is bull and Sudan is blaming it's own incompetence with insurgents on Israel. According to the article, Sudan hasn't shown any concrete proof yet.
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    Default Re: Sudan accused Israel of blowing up Persian weapon factory

    Who else would do that, lol? Of course it was ing Israel, everyone already knows it.

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    Default Re: Sudan accused Israel of blowing up Persian weapon factory

    Quote Originally Posted by Blatta Optima Maxima View Post
    Who else would do that, lol? Of course it was ing Israel, everyone already knows it.
    Unless it was idk one of the munitions that accidently blew up.

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    Sudan deserves it. They've been openly supporting terrorism and waging wars on their own populations for decades.

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    Its plausible but then again it IS a weapons factory in the high tech and obviously safety conscious Sudan so what could possibly go wrong?

    Being Israel has been blamed for just about everything bad that happens in the surrounding countries, its a non-issue without proof. After proof its also a non-issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    Its plausible but then again it IS a weapons factory in the high tech and obviously safety conscious Sudan so what could possibly go wrong?

    Being Israel has been blamed for just about everything bad that happens in the surrounding countries, its a non-issue without proof. After proof its also a non-issue.
    It is not the first time that Israel drops bombs on Sudan to destroy weapons convoys, so them blowing up a arms factory supplying Hamas is not far fetched. But even if it is the case they have the right to do so.

    But like you I sense Jewish Laser beams all over this one too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    But even if it is the case they have the right to do so.
    According to who or what? Yahweh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by YukonTrooper View Post
    According to who or what? Yahweh?
    The victims of Hamas and the weapons that have been transiting through Sudan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    The victims of Hamas and the weapons that have been transiting through Sudan.
    But Hamas themselves are victims of Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    The victims of Hamas and the weapons that have been transiting through Sudan.
    So do Egyptians who were beaten, shot and killed by American trained and armed security personnel have the right to blow up American weapon manufacturing plants? Are the citizens of countries affected by NATO weapons justified in attacking relevant targets across NATO countries? More to the point about Israel: does Palestine have the right to start sending suicide bombers into General Dynamic and Lockheed Martin factories?

    Perhaps wiping America and Russia off the face of the planet would be a good start for vengeance?
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    Well except for of course it's well known Israel is willing to strike neighbours. Denial is no good, rationale is what is needed here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    Well except for of course it's well known Israel is willing to strike neighbours. Denial is no good, rationale is what is needed here.
    Its almost like you didn't read the "plausible" part of my post. What I'm saying is the accusation is meaningless, regardless of guilt. .

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...995302,00.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    Its almost like you didn't read the "plausible" part of my post. What I'm saying is the accusation is meaningless, regardless of guilt. .

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...995302,00.html

    With zionist laser beams no doubt.
    Why is it meaningless? Especially, why is it meaningless if it's entirely accurate?

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    Default Re: Sudan accused Israel of blowing up Persian weapon factory

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    Well except for of course it's well known Israel is willing to strike neighbours. Denial is no good, rationale is what is needed here.
    I actually support Phier as far as this particular thing goes. Were there to have been a malfunction that resulted in the facility's destruction, for whatever reason, Sudan would be just as likely to blame it on Israel. It's a credible story that few people would disbelieve.

    For what it's worth I consider it entirely reasonable to assume that Israel is in fact behind this and if they are I can't say I blame them. Fact of the matter though is if it's anything else the Sudanese government would not waste the opportunity for a bit of jewbashing either.

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    Default Re: Sudan accused Israel of blowing up Persian weapon factory

    a bit strange. Jews have always gotten on with their neighbours and people they live with




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    I have a massive distrust of anything that emanates out of the Middle East. I have no cred here....



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    Default Re: Sudan accused Israel of blowing up Persian weapon factory

    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    Can't say I would be suprised if Israel did that, can't say I would be suprised if it is bull and Sudan is blaming it's own incompetence with insurgents on Israel.
    Cant say I who is responsible. Sudan can blow.
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    Well Sudan is Iran's only ally in Africa. It's their route to the sea...via Syria or something like that...*goes to check wiki*
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    Hamas is allying with Shia Persians now?
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    Hamas is allying with Shia Persians now?
    Now? Where have you been the last twenty years?
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