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    Default what is wrong with Shogun 2? massive drop of players regarding Steam stats

    Hi everyone, since 1-2 weeks Steam is reporting a heavy loss of players in result (slightly) more people play Empire as Shogun 2?

    any reasons? any idea?
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    Default Re: what is wrong with Shogun 2? massive drop of players regarding Steam stats

    The game got boring fast, little replay value unlike previous installments. Multi-player (and a poor one at that) cannot save it from that.

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    Default Re: what is wrong with Shogun 2? massive drop of players regarding Steam stats

    Hi everyone, since 1-2 weeks Steam is reporting a heavy loss of players in result (slightly)
    Source?
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    Default Re: what is wrong with Shogun 2? massive drop of players regarding Steam stats

    source is steam

    http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

    i see that development since 2 weeks.
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    Default Re: what is wrong with Shogun 2? massive drop of players regarding Steam stats

    I see no data stretching back two weeks there, only numbers for today.
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    Default Re: what is wrong with Shogun 2? massive drop of players regarding Steam stats

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim_Ward View Post
    I see no data stretching back two weeks there, only numbers for today.
    conspiration? of course i collected data over 2 weeks. do you really need proofs oh man

    thanks for your feedback and poll votes hope we can collect more ideas and thougts.
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    Default Re: what is wrong with Shogun 2? massive drop of players regarding Steam stats

    It's not so much a drop in players in the past few weeks as the die-off from Total War taking effect. Lots of people started playing because it was cheap and on the front page. Those folks have left, leaving the pre-existing population to keep the Samurai Spirit alive.

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    EDIT: Total War Weekend. Dropped a word there in the first sentence.

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    Yeah Empire being played more than Shogun is not really a recent development. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=474030
    They've been taking turns being in the lead at around the same player base size for quite some time now.
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    Well, I see that S2 might be remembered as a NTW-like title.

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    both games always have at most 7 thousand in game every time i check them out so i dont see the decline in that plus most got back to empire because of the mods i've been recently playing darthmod and the american civil war one and i noticed a lot of people went back to empire for the same reasons though i still prefer shogun over any other title thus far having only 180 hours on empire 117 on napoleon and the most is shogun with 733... the faithless must commit seppuku
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    I really can't believe Empire is being considered better than any Total War game...

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    Quote Originally Posted by John F. Kennedy View Post
    I really can't believe Empire is being considered better than any Total War game...
    To me, it's the time and the wide scope of gameplay.

    Nothing else.

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    Having more people playing doesn't have to be more better but simply have more appeal. Empire maybe does not live up to its expectation to some but for the masses up there the game is great and have mass appeal due to the scope.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LestaT View Post
    Having more people playing doesn't have to be more better but simply have more appeal. Empire maybe does not live up to its expectation to some but for the masses up there the game is great and have mass appeal due to the scope.
    So quantity > quality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John F. Kennedy View Post
    So quantity > quality?
    No.

    Better appeal > Lower appeal.

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    So it doesn`t matter if it`s rubbish and actually brings down the mass public IQ as long as it`s successful?


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    You are already in the future. The most successful games are those mindless free to play but pay to increase stats sorts of games on facebook.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LestaT View Post
    No.

    Better appeal > Lower appeal.
    So terror of the majority at least.



    You are already in the future. The most successful games are those mindless free to play but pay to increase stats sorts of games on facebook.
    For some reason I thought of World of Warcraft when I read this, mostly when I think back to the Vanilla days, and what an honest achievement it was to reach level 60.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John F. Kennedy View Post
    So terror of the majority at least.
    I guess so.

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    For some reason I thought of World of Warcraft when I read this, mostly when I think back to the Vanilla days, and what an honest achievement it was to reach level 60.
    Yeah. Maybe. The days where level 60 are reached through blood and sweat are long gone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LestaT View Post
    Having more people playing doesn't have to be more better but simply have more appeal. Empire maybe does not live up to its expectation to some but for the masses up there the game is great and have mass appeal due to the scope.
    So it doesn`t matter if it`s rubbish and actually brings down the mass public IQ as long as it`s successful?


    I fear for the future.

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    edit: sorry, I just realized I don't care.
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