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    ON BOARD THE USS GEORGE WASHINGTON (AP) — A U.S. aircraft carrier group cruised through the disputed South China Sea on Saturday in a show of American power in waters that are fast becoming a focal point of Washington's strategic rivalry with Beijing.
    Vietnamese security and government officials were flown onto the nuclear-powered USS George Washington ship, underlining the burgeoning military relationship between the former enemies. A small number of journalists were also invited to witness the display of maritime might in the oil-rich waters, which are home to islands disputed between China and the other smaller Asian nations facing the sea.
    The visit will likely reassure Vietnam and the Philippines of American support but could annoy China, whose growing economic and naval strength is leading to a greater assertiveness in pressing its claims there. The United States is building closer economic and military alliances with Vietnam and other nations in the region as part of a "pivot" away from the Middle East to Asia, a shift in large part meant to counter rising Chinese influence.
    The Vietnamese officials took photos of F-16 fighter jets taking off and landing on the ships 1,000-foot- (305-meter-) long flight deck, met the captain and toured the hulking ship, which has more than 5,000 sailors on board.
    The mission came a day after Beijing staged military exercises near islands in the nearby East China Sea it disputes with U.S ally Japan. Those tensions have flared in recent days.
    China claims nearly all of the South China Sea, where the U.S. says it has a national interest in ensuring freedom of navigation in an area crossed by vital shipping lanes. Vietnam, the Philippines and several other Asian nations also claim parts of the sea. The disputes attracted little international interest until the late 1990s, when surveys indicated possible large oil reserves. American rivalry with China has given the disputes an extra dimension in recent years.
    The U.S. Navy regularly patrols the Asia-Pacific region, conducting joint exercises with its allies and training in the strategic region. The trip by the George Washington off the coast of Vietnam is its third in as many years. A second aircraft carrier, the USS John C. Stennis, has also conducting operations in the western Pacific region recently, according to the U.S. Pacific Fleet.
    Capt. Gregory Fenton said the mission was aimed in part at improving relations with Vietnam and ensuring the U.S. had free passage in the South China Sea.
    China's military buildup, including the launch of its own carrier last year and rapid development of ballistic missiles and cyber warfare capabilities, could potentially crimp the U.S. forces' freedom to operate in the waters. The United States doesn't publicly take sides in the territorial disputes among China and its neighbors.
    "It is our goal to see the region's nations figure out these tensions ... on their own, our role of that to date is to conduct freedom of navigation exercises within international waters," Fenton said in an interview on the bridge.
    Although claimant countries have pledged to settle the territorial rifts peacefully, the disputes have erupted in violence in the past, including in 1988 when China and Vietnam clashed in the Spratly Islands in a confrontation that killed 64 Vietnamese soldiers. Many fear the disputes could become Asia's next flash point for armed conflict.
    Vietnam is pleased to accept help from its one-time foe America as a hedge against its giant neighbor China, with which it also tries to maintain good relations.
    Still, the Hanoi government reacted angrily to recent moves by Beijing to establish a garrison on one of the Paracel islands, which Vietnam claims. The United States also criticized the move by Beijing, earning it a rebuke from the government there.
    "China will take this (cruise) as another expression by the United States of its desire to maintain regional domination," said Denny Roy, a senior fellow at the East-West Center in Hawaii. "The U.S also wants to send a message to the region that it is here for the long haul ... and that it wants to back up international law."
    While most analysts believe military confrontation in the waters is highly unlikely anytime soon, they say tensions are likely to increase as China continues pressing its claims and building its navy.
    Looks like tensions are going to increase more over this dispute. I think we can say that cooperation between Vietnam, the Philippines and the US are likely to increase. This though could just be an answer from the US regarding china's recent exercises near the disputed islands between China and Japan. The Us though is sending a very clear message to China. The US supports Vietnam and the Philippines in this dispute.

    I am curious though on how the US will get Vietnam and the Philippines to work together when they themselves dispute each other's claims in the South China Sea.

    P.S Ignore the bad reporting in the article referring to the planes on the carrier as F-16s.

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    Did it have a sign attached saying "LIKE A BAUS" ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by motiv-8 View Post
    Did it have a sign attached saying "LIKE A BAUS" ?
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    I guess it is a good thing for all the other SA Nations to not be bullied by China without consequence, Beijing claims are so absurd you would think it is a Michael Bay Movie narrative device.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    I guess it is a good thing for all the other SA Nations to not be bullied by China without consequence, Beijing claims are so absurd you would think it is a Michael Bay Movie narrative device.
    That is why American Overlord needs to protect SEA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    That is why American Overlord needs to protect SEA?
    Someone has to remember China something about Asian penis size.
    « Le courage est toujours quelque chose de saint, un jugement divin entre deux idées. Défendre notre cause de plus en plus vigoureusement est conforme à la nature humaine. Notre suprême raison d’être est donc de lutter ; on ne possède vraiment que ce qu’on acquiert en combattant. »Ernst Jünger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    Someone has to remember China something about Asian penis size.
    Well, SEA can form its self-saving group that cooperate with other regional governments such as Russia, Australia, India and East Asian states to counter China - Singapore has proposed this plan for two decades, but no, everyone just wants to invite someone on other side of ocean first to play the game instead forming an effective plan with its neighbours.
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    USA show China who rule the seas.
    It was expected.
    USA try to form various coalition of Southern Asia countries to contain China influence.
    Nothing new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarissofoi View Post
    USA show China who rule the seas.
    It was expected.
    USA try to form various coalition of Southern Asia countries to contain China influence.
    Nothing new.
    Aren't they just showing off to BigDaddy what fancy jewelry they bought with his money?


    China might have the problem of alienating their neighbors but I am not convinced that this some kind of timed special measure given the George Washington appears to have its home port in Japan and she had made a tour to the straits of Malacca so going up via the South China sea is the shortest way.

    Sure, the US wants to buddy up with Vietnam and the Philippines and Taiwan are local allies so I wonder how often the carrier goes there annually.
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    Meanwhile, US is inviting Burma to their joint-military exercise with Thailand.

    The US has invited Burma to observe a major military exercise in Thailand, officials say, in what is seen as a sign of improving relations.

    Burma has yet to respond to the offer to attend the Cobra Gold exercise next year, which brings together US and Thai troops and observers from across Asia.

    The US had stopped all co-operation with the Burmese military in the 1990s over its human rights record.

    But it has begun lifting sanctions in response to Burma's series of reforms.

    Thai and Burmese officials confirmed the invitation to the annual Cobra Gold exercise with BBC Burmese.

    Thai Defence Ministry spokesman, Col Thanathip Sawangsang, said that Burma "is on the list of observers but it's not finalised yet".

    A spokesman from the office of the Burmese president also confirmed the invitation, but said that they have yet to send an official response.

    After decades of military rule, Burma has witnessed a series of political and social reforms since the military-backed civilian government came to power two years ago.

    These include freeing hundreds of prisoners - political detainees among them - and introducing more press freedom.

    Washington has been easing sanctions against Burma, including a recent decision to end economic sanctions.

    But renewing ties with the Burmese armed forces is a far more delicate issue for the US, analysts say.

    US officials are now openly talking of re-establishing co-operation with the Burmese military, says the BBC's South East Asia correspondent Jonathan Head.

    This would challenge the predominant influence China has enjoyed for the past two decades in Burma, which has given its armed forces access to ports and monitoring posts on the Indian Ocean, our correspondent adds.

    Cobra Gold, which began in 1980, is conducted in Chon Buri province, east of Thailand's capital, Bangkok.
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    I think it is pretty clear now about what US is thinking about...
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    'bout time we brought freedom to that godless side of the world.

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    And then US ends up wondering why China supports regimes that oppose US.

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    It's not unjustifiable to protect the legal claims of the islands from a foreign power. Who really wants to see a southeast Asian war struggling against China?
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    China do as I tell ya!

    Now I wonder what Romeny means with "cracking down on china", since obama doesnt? Its like a bizarro world soap operah and I think the script is already written.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorn777 View Post
    Now I wonder what Romeny means with "cracking down on china", since obama doesnt? Its like a bizarro world soap operah and I think the script is already written.
    It is funny when Obama's "lenient" policies towards China is by rising tariff against certain Chinese goods and service or outright ban them.
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    Who really wants to see a southeast Asian war struggling against China?
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    Russia, Australia, India...yeah don't see anything wrong with that plan at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.rwitt View Post
    Russia, Australia, India...yeah don't see anything wrong with that plan at all
    They're such historic allies, after all. Not to mention so CLOSE to each other. Not separated by anything like, oh I don't know, 'Oceans' or 'Landmass'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.rwitt View Post
    Russia, Australia, India...yeah don't see anything wrong with that plan at all
    And invite Americans and made yourself like a puppet is not wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    And invite Americans and made yourself like a puppet is not wrong?
    Being allied with the US =/= being a puppet.

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