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    Default EU commissioner John Dalli forced to resign over snuff scandal

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    John Dalli, the European Commissioner, has resigned after the European Anti-Fraud Office (OLAF) completed its investigation after a complaint by snus manufacturer Swedish Match. The EU press release says “The company alleged that a Maltese entrepreneur had used his contacts with Mr. Dalli to try to gain financial advantages from the company in return for seeking to influence a possible future legislative proposal on tobacco products, in particular on the EU export ban on snus.”

    The press release goes onto say “The OLAF final report was sent to the Commission on 15 October. It found that the Maltese Entrepreneur had approached the company using his contacts with Mr. Dalli and sought to gain financial advantages in exchange for influence over a possible future legislative proposal on snus.”

    I’ve written before on how safer forms of nicotine delivery, such as snus and electronic cigarettes, are sidelined in favour of nicotine delivery products produced by the pharmaceutical industry that spends upwards of €40 million lobbying Brussels to get their corporate case across. Let me remind you that snus, for some unfathomable reason, is banned in every EU country apart from Sweden. There is no medical or social reason for this to be the case.

    It seems that Dalli and the intermediary in this case, Silvio Zammit, previously the Deputy Mayor of Sliema (Malta), are both from the Maltese centre-right Partit Nazzjonalista and obviously knew each other. They, in return for a substantial payment, were prepared to broker a meeting between Swedish Match and Dalli with a view to getting the legislation on snus in the EU reformed.
    I am a rather rabid anti-tobacconist and even refuse to buy stocks in tobacco companies due to the simple fact that I would hate receiving the dividends. But Swedish Match should get some credit for this move as they could have gotten access to a wide European market in exchange for 50 million euro.

    The whole snuff business is also something that I have felt to be discrimination against a small nation from the start. Snuff is essentially tobacco that you put under your lip to provide you with a nicotine kick. From a health perspective this mean that you get all the normal negatives from nicotine but avoid the lung damage associated with smoking. Despite this the European Union maintains a strict ban on snuff outside of Sweden.

    Sweden have made moves to prevent this counter productive trade restriction. But lobbyism in Brussels have been both fierce and brutal from anti-smoking lobbyists with backing from the pharmaceutical industry. The most extreme result being a 2003 report where sections proving snuff to be less harmful than other tobacco products were covered up by tip-ex.

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    The EU Commission is threatening to ban Swedish snus. But Aftonbladet can reveal that a large part of the EU’s knowledge base is built upon a biased, censored report.

    They went so far as to Tipp-ex sections of the report, said a source with deep insight.

    In 2003 the European Network for Smoking Prevention, ENSP, was asked by the EU Commission to write a report about Swedish snus.

    The job was contracted out to Dutch consulting company Research voor Beleid. In their report, “Lift the ban on oral tobacco,” the Dutch concluded that the snus ban ought to be lifted across the EU.

    But when ENSP received the document, the contents of which contradicted its own convictions in the matter, the group decided to re-write the report. What they presented instead was a completely different conclusion: that snus is dangerous and causes cancer in the oral cavity.
    So should snuff be allowed without significant bribes being paid to European Commissioners and how can we prevent EU commissioners from getting involved in serious bribery scandals every 10-15 years? The last time the entire commission was forced to resign (more info) but this time it seems to have been a lone commissioner looking to make the most out of his power.

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    Default Re: EU commissioner John Dalli forced to resign over snuff scandal

    Wow this thread title totally had me thinking something different.
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    Default Re: EU commissioner John Dalli forced to resign over snuff scandal

    this is not the snuff you are looking for


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    Quote Originally Posted by priam11 View Post
    Wow this thread title totally had me thinking something different.

    same.

    Related note: Snuff gives rise to mouth and throat cancers, not any worse than conventional smoking, but not as the OP implies any better either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton View Post
    Snus is basically a little tea bag of tobacco that allows you to absorb small amounts of nicotine through the gum tissues.

    It's way better for you than smoking. Heck even regular chaws of long cut snuff are better for you than smoking.

    Doesn't do a thing for you from my experiences, it's the least effective nicotine delivery system I've tried, but its enough to stop you hankering for a big bulging chaw which may not be appropriate in every situation such as the company of refined ladies.

    The EU is retarded and this man is a patriot. Nothing wrong with accepting a bribe from the good guys.
    This is a stupid policy, but bribing an elected official? Hell no, both the official who accepts and the person offering the bribe are criminals for it.

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    Default Re: EU commissioner John Dalli forced to resign over snuff scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by justicar5 View Post
    same.

    Related note: Snuff gives rise to mouth and throat cancers, not any worse than conventional smoking, but not as the OP implies any better either.
    The cancer form most correlated with snuff is actually pancreatic cancer (source) and I may have carelessly pushed that into "usual negative effects of nicotine". A more correct comment would be "the usual negative effects of nicotine and nitrosamines" considering that nitrosamines are more cancerogenic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adar View Post
    The cancer form most correlated with snuff is actually pancreatic cancer (source) and I may have carelessly pushed that into "usual negative effects of nicotine". A more correct comment would be "the usual negative effects of nicotine and nitrosamines" considering that nitrosamines are more cancerogenic.

    I may have been getting it confused with chewing tobacco, then, http://www.mouthcancerfoundation.org...hewing-tobacco which it appears I was.

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    Default Re: EU commissioner John Dalli forced to resign over snuff scandal

    Why is he just resigning and not facing charges?

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    Default Re: EU commissioner John Dalli forced to resign over snuff scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by irelandeb View Post
    Why is he just resigning and not facing charges?
    Because he's a Eurocrat.
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    Default Re: EU commissioner John Dalli forced to resign over snuff scandal

    Snus is basically a little tea bag of tobacco that allows you to absorb small amounts of nicotine through the gum tissues.

    It's way better for you than smoking. Heck even regular chaws of long cut snuff are better for you than smoking.

    Doesn't do a thing for you from my experiences, it's the least effective nicotine delivery system I've tried, but its enough to stop you hankering for a big bulging chaw which may not be appropriate in every situation such as the company of refined ladies.

    The EU is retarded and this man is a patriot. Nothing wrong with accepting a bribe from the good guys.
    Last edited by Col. Tartleton; October 19, 2012 at 04:14 PM.
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    Default Re: EU commissioner John Dalli forced to resign over snuff scandal

    boo, was hoping to read about some politician and snuff films

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    What are the chances of the above happening?
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    Default Re: EU commissioner John Dalli forced to resign over snuff scandal

    Quote Originally Posted by Condottiere 40K View Post


    What are the chances of the above happening?
    The oral cancer or an incompetent reconstructive surgeon?

    I can't understand why they're seemingly incapable of restoring the lower face and throat.
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    Default Re: EU commissioner John Dalli forced to resign over snuff scandal

    Regarding the core issue (corruption in Brussels) I think this is something that we are going to have to live with. Encouraging free trade by harmonisation of law is one of the most important functions of the European Union regardless of if you dream of a federation or an international cooperation. Putting the power far away from the people means that it is easy for the commissioners to become corrupt, but with serious punishment and OLAF I think it can be kept at a minimum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Condottiere 40K View Post


    What are the chances of the above happening?
    Almost miniscule, we have more snuff addicts than smokers in Sweden but the issues with lung cancers are far greater.

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    Default Re: EU commissioner John Dalli forced to resign over snuff scandal

    This thread is the biggest disappointment eva.

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