Tech Tree/ Research

[TheGreatOne]

Get rid of it, It has been and always will be unbalanced.

example of this,

on shogun i destroyed a veteran army, next thing i know late game another level 9 army started spawning ....not being funny but isnt it unrealistic lol

[Timotheus]

I disagree! It would bring chaos into the terms of new technology the peoples of the ancient age acquired.
It is a must to research vital things i.e. diplomacy effects, farming tech, different setups of lorica armor, marian reforms, naval guidance, religion, infrastructure and much much more.

I personally want to see three tech tree split into these categories army and naval tech/infrastructure and public tech/trading, diplomacy, religion and merc tech

And where you have academy there you set philosophers, scientist and so on to research. Similar to ETW but better and reasonable system

[Stavroforos]

I'd prefer a NTW system where we have enough techonoglies to fill up one panel, instead of needing three full tabs of technologies.

[Timotheus]

I'd prefer a NTW system where we have enough techonoglies to fill up one panel, instead of needing three full tabs of technologies.

Well I admit I've never played NTW It are with the FOTS only two total war expansions I haven't bought due to the feeling of "devs milking the franchise"..

[Slaists]

I'd prefer a NTW system where we have enough techonoglies to fill up one panel, instead of needing three full tabs of technologies.

Arguably, NTW represents only a couple decades (actually, less than that) in real life terms. Rome will represent more than 2 centuries...

Then again, tech development was pretty slow at this age. I guess, we could have a tab full of military research topics such as "a shield with Venus' head", "a shield with Mars' head"

[Lockcaps]

Get rid of it, It has been and always will be unbalanced.

example of this,

on shogun i destroyed a veteran army, next thing i know late game another level 9 army started spawning ....not being funny but isnt it unrealistic lol

what does your example have to do with the tech tree?

[krisslanza]

what does your example have to do with the tech tree?

Yeah, I'm not seeing how the AI's 'instant' garrison troops have anything to do with the tech tree. The AI gets stuff like that to make it have a chance of even standing up to the player, instead of just getting steamrolled.

[HusKatten]

It would be pretty cool if a city on the world map could get some kind of "World Center of Knowledge" status. If the scientists are re-entering the game then they should go to this city to gain a faster tech rate for their faction. And the owner of the city should get an increased tech rate for each scientist that occupy it.

[henkkz]

I really like the idea of E:TW system of having people research stuff, but with more depth indeed.

[Lockcaps]

Well only things we know:
There will be a tech tree
Every faction will have their own

[Stavroforos]

We know that every faction will have its own?

[Lockcaps]

I just went to check this again and turns out i was 50% wrong

http://www.pcgamesn.com/totalwar/tot...stion-answered

We really want to push that variety in different ways, with variance in tech trees for barbarian cultures, and other cultures as well.” - i assume that means every culture will have their own tech tree

[Sir Furlong]

What would you suggest to replace the tech tree?

[Fanest]

What would you suggest to replace the tech tree?

Tech tree is easily replaced with tech development based on certain buildings being build or level of population reached, provinces owned, special events etc. Tech tree is in imo one of the most unrealistic things ever to be implemented in total war games.

[krisslanza]

Tech tree is easily replaced with tech development based on certain buildings being build or level of population reached, provinces owned, special events etc. Tech tree is in imo one of the most unrealistic things ever to be implemented in total war games.

The problem is most of those things you suggested, fall into a kind of "And the winner, wins even better" kind of thing. Tech trees at least allow even smaller players to find a way to gain an edge, instead of the larger ones just having an advantage by simplying being bigger.

[Fanest]

The problem is most of those things you suggested, fall into a kind of "And the winner, wins even better" kind of thing. Tech trees at least allow even smaller players to find a way to gain an edge, instead of the larger ones just having an advantage by simplying being bigger.

There could special bonuses/perks for small factions, peaceful factions or small factions under big pressure its not necessary that these bonuses apply only to the largest factions. For example not being in war for a long period could generate big trade profits since traders look for peaceful locations, city wealth could generate quicker, population is growing quicker, buildings are being build faster etc. all deserving to stable and peaceful state policy. Small factions could also have very low unrest - people support their government. In time of foreign invasion they would get more garrison troops etc. in fact they would heavily really on garrison troops in time of need and ofc diplomacy.

[sleepyx732]

Now correct me if I'm wrong.. but this is mostly from AI aids, not from the tech tree.

So...?

[Princeps]

Yes. *tech trees* are always, invariably awful.

Technology should be determined by geography (the location of your empire) and your culture. The player wouldn't have an option to "choose research" through a panel because it's completely nonsensical.

[Adreno]

ive allways seen research time as how long it takes to implement something new, which makes sense, because if you develop a better weapon, your 20k army doesnt have them the next day, it takes time.. ofcourse you could find a few examples in which that wouldnt work.. but meh

[Sir Furlong]

I can see where you are coming from with the issues with a tech tree, but I feel like allowing only certain techs to be unlocked to be available to be researched after a certain date would help to lower the playing field.