Child Brides a scar on humanity

[John ''True Grit'' Wayne]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ld-brides.html


The terrifying world of child brides: Devastating images show girls young enough to be in pre-school who are married off to older men


We should be doing more in the world to protect these kids.
Some of the images reminds me of Muhammad and his child bride.This brings home the reality of the situation.Take time to view these images and discuss this subject.How can we do more for these kids.

To mark the occasion and draw attention to the problem of child brides, photojournalist Stephanie Sinclair teamed up with National Geographic to create a series of heart-breaking photos depicting girls as young as five years old being married off to middle-aged men in countries like India, Yemen and Ethiopia.

A 5year old ffs how can they even have sex they do not have the body parts.They have no sex drive at that age as they have not gone through puberty.Country's like India who have nukes and a good economy how can they allow this today.What does a man get from a 5 year old bride she cant cook clean have kids or sex and could not hold a adult conversation.Surely the next time we are all say having a go at Israel we can look at this as it is more serious as kids are being basically raped.They must be to consumate the marriage.

[Gatsby]

Daily Fail...

I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm just not sure what there is to discuss. Its bad? There are backwards, terrible traditions in the world, and its not gotten worse recently, and its not going to get better any time soon.

[John ''True Grit'' Wayne]

Daily Fail...

Oh come on old boy this is a serious topic the camera does not lie.I shall get another link to please the mob.


http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&...OuMW1eatrHiyFA

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle4604236/
Clinton and Tutu pledge to fight child brides.

[Col. Tartleton]

Lol Clinton classified 16 year old girls as child brides.

You crazy Hillary.

[tarvu]

Lol Clinton classified 16 year old girls as child brides.

You crazy Hillary.

So sixteen year old girls in your opinion should be married off by their parents.

I know we have some backwards states in the USA, but I kinda hope that even most people in those states would agree that in modern society marriage should be something arranged between two adults and not an adult and the parents of a minor girl.

[The Gurkhan]

So sixteen year old girls in your opinion should be married off by their parents.

I know we have some backwards states in the USA, but I kinda hope that even most people in those states would agree that in modern society marriage should be something arranged between two adults and not an adult and the parents of a minor girl.

Pretty sure the age one can legally get married over here (in the civilised UK) is 16 with permission from parents or guardians.

[tarvu]

Pretty sure the age one can legally get married over here (in the civilised UK) is 16 with permission from parents or guardians.

Well... I don't know if I would call the UK civilized, I have been there and it was pretty shocking.

No. I think that if a 16 year old girl gives her consent to marrying a 20 year old and her parents sign off on it or she's emancipated there isn't really a problem. 15-16 is pretty traditional marrying age in the West. We've moved it up to a later age for a number of reasons, but let's not pretend that's not normal.

It's not like we're talking about a child or preteen getting knocked up here. We're talking about a Sophomore in high school. That's the age where girls go after the older guys. This just feeds into the often idiotic semantics of statutory rape. Those girls are reaching sexual activity and girls tend to look at older more mature guys. I'm sure studies will support my observations.

Almost all the most attractive, intelligent, mature girls (mentally and physically) at that age who I would have gone after were dating guys like 5 years older than me. I thought that was weird back then, but it makes more sense retrospectively. I had to go after the second and third rate. Such is life.



Minority is tricky. 16 for a girl is like 18 for a guy. We mature differently. We're not done maturing until 25. What's 9 years matter if you're already doing 7?

I'm going to ignore most of your half page long fantasy about having sex with a totally hot sixteen year old and just respond to the relevant point...

You were commenting on Hillary Clinton's comments on child brides having their marriages when they were "15, 16, or 17". These are marriages that are arranged by their parents. This was all very clear in the context she said it. So yes that does make them Child Brides.


Sort of off-topic but where I live, age of consent for marriage is 18. You know when someone is legally an adult, not in the middle of high school where no I don't believe someone is old enough to realistcally understand what it means to consent to marriage. Then again I also happen to believe two gay adults should be able to marry. Obviously knocked up sixteen year olds are more equipped to make a decision like that, or maybe it was the part of Christianity I didn't take literally enough that condoned having sex with minors.

[Col. Tartleton]

I'm going to ignore most of your half page long fantasy about having sex with a totally hot sixteen year old and just respond to the relevant point...

Yeah, let's ignore valid points about how girls that age in our society want to screw guys in their 20's whether it's legal or not.

You were commenting on Hillary Clinton's comments on child brides having their marriages when they were "15, 16, or 17". These are marriages that are arranged by their parents. This was all very clear in the context she said it. So yes that does make them Child Brides.

A. They aren't Children. They're either teenagers or young adults depending on your parlance.
B. We'd probably be better off with arranged marriages as long as both parties had the ability to say no. As with traditional Jewish practices.

Sort of off-topic but where I live, age of consent for marriage is 18. You know when someone is legally an adult, not in the middle of high school where no I don't believe someone is old enough to realistcally understand what it means to consent to marriage. Then again I also happen to believe two gay adults should be able to marry. Obviously knocked up sixteen year olds are more equipped to make a decision like that, or maybe it was the part of Christianity I didn't take literally enough that condoned having sex with minors.

If she's menstruating she's an adult biologically. If she can get pregnant she's old enough to.

[Col. Tartleton]

So sixteen year old girls in your opinion should be married off by their parents.

No. I think that if a 16 year old girl gives her consent to marrying a 20 year old and her parents sign off on it or she's emancipated there isn't really a problem. 15-16 is pretty traditional marrying age in the West. We've moved it up to a later age for a number of reasons, but let's not pretend that's not normal.

It's not like we're talking about a child or preteen getting knocked up here. We're talking about a Sophomore in high school. That's the age where girls go after the older guys. This just feeds into the often idiotic semantics of statutory rape. Those girls are reaching sexual activity and girls tend to look at older more mature guys. I'm sure studies will support my observations.

Almost all the most attractive, intelligent, mature girls (mentally and physically) at that age who I would have gone after were dating guys like 5 years older than me. I thought that was weird back then, but it makes more sense retrospectively. I had to go after the second and third rate. Such is life.

I know we have some backwards states in the USA, but I kinda hope that even most people in those states would agree that in modern society marriage should be something arranged between two adults and not an adult and the parents of a minor girl.

Minority is tricky. 16 for a girl is like 18 for a guy. We mature differently. We're not done maturing until 25. What's 9 years matter if you're already doing 7?

[Vanoi]

No. I think that if a 16 year old girl gives her consent to marrying a 20 year old and her parents sign off on it or she's emancipated there isn't really a problem. 15-16 is pretty traditional marrying age in the West. We've moved it up to a later age for a number of reasons, but let's not pretend that's not normal.

The normal marrying age in the West is like 30. Not 16.

[Col. Tartleton]

The normal marrying age in the West is like 30. Not 16.

People with money historically married very young. Modern people have money yet the focus on education and work means people don't get married. Plus there's the whole marrying for love business, which of course is a terrible foundation for marriage as love is frequently temporary and the human instincts to look outside the marriage have far greater impact in such a situation which is supposed to be so perfectly monogamous.

I blame society.

We could come up with better models.

[I WUB PUGS]

Saw the same story on the absurdly leftist MSNBC just yesterday.

[John ''True Grit'' Wayne]

Do not watch that only watch FOX news the women are nicer.
Good to see Hillary doing something good with her time.I believed she was dead.

[Col. Tartleton]

Do not watch that only watch FOX news the women are nicer.
Good to see Hillary doing something good with her time.I believed she was dead.

I feel like MSNBC makes me more conservative than watching FOX does. At some point the FOX bias turns me off from Republicans, but then I see the MSNBC guys and I realize how much worse it could be if that side was in charge (albeit that side is already in charge.)

This isn't the stupidest thing H Dawg has done. That would be marrying Bubba.

[Humble Warrior]

This kind of stuff really annoys me. I wasn`t born yesterday and I don`t knee jerk react to anything I hear.

Why?

Because there`s more to this than meets the eye. You`re being manipulated (probably by Clinton etc) looking to make some kind of political capital.

There are a zillion important concerns around the world and suddenly this is the most important one? We don`t even know the true circumstances. You must look at motives, truth, politics and even feminists-led policies being thrown around here.

I wouldn`t be surprised if this is just designed to get a reaction from some sections of the public in a way to some how vilify or demonise others or justto put herself back in the spotlight.

I wasn`t born yesterday and I don`t knee jerk react to anything I hear (yea, I wrote it twice).

[Captain Jin]

This kind of stuff really annoys me. I wasn`t born yesterday and I don`t knee jerk react to anything I hear.

Why?

Because there`s more to this than meets the eye. You`re being manipulated (probably by Clinton etc) looking to make some kind of political capital.

There are a zillion important concerns around the world and suddenly this is the most important one? We don`t even know the true circumstances. You must look at motives, truth, politics and even feminists-led policies being thrown around here.

I wouldn`t be surprised if this is just designed to get a reaction from some sections of the public in a way to some how vilify or demonise others or justto put herself back in the spotlight.

I wasn`t born yesterday and I don`t knee jerk react to anything I hear (yea, I wrote it twice).

Or could it be that the State Department (Hilary is Secretary of said department) has been talking about this sort of thing for years alongside human trafficking but nobody listens? Just like no one is going to listen now. It has nothing to do with manipulation. It's not a hot button issue suddenly, it's been brought up time and time again by the State Department. And there are a zillion different concerns that the State Department addresses every year in the dozens of reports that they publish to include human trafficking, religious freedom, human rights (where forced marriage is addressed) etc. There are even sections on it in some of the pertinent embassy sites in countries where it is prominent. It is extremely common and your jaded view on the matter attributed to someone trying to gain attention or political gain (wtf?) is short-sighted. Not that we can do much from preventing people from being backwards as all hell, but the point is its been a serious topic at State for a long, long time.

[motiv-8]

Who cares?

Well, you don't.

This kind of stuff really annoys me. I wasn`t born yesterday and I don`t knee jerk react to anything I hear.

Why?

Because there`s more to this than meets the eye. You`re being manipulated (probably by Clinton etc) looking to make some kind of political capital.

There are a zillion important concerns around the world and suddenly this is the most important one? We don`t even know the true circumstances. You must look at motives, truth, politics and even feminists-led policies being thrown around here.

I wouldn`t be surprised if this is just designed to get a reaction from some sections of the public in a way to some how vilify or demonise others or justto put herself back in the spotlight.

I wasn`t born yesterday and I don`t knee jerk react to anything I hear (yea, I wrote it twice).

And neither does this guy.

[Lord Baratheon]

This kind of stuff really annoys me. I wasn`t born yesterday and I don`t knee jerk react to anything I hear.

Why?

Because there`s more to this than meets the eye. You`re being manipulated (probably by Clinton etc) looking to make some kind of political capital.

There are a zillion important concerns around the world and suddenly this is the most important one? We don`t even know the true circumstances. You must look at motives, truth, politics and even feminists-led policies being thrown around here.

I wouldn`t be surprised if this is just designed to get a reaction from some sections of the public in a way to some how vilify or demonise others or justto put herself back in the spotlight.

I wasn`t born yesterday and I don`t knee jerk react to anything I hear (yea, I wrote it twice).

What utter nonsense!This is an important concern.This isnt new,its been reported for years and nobody seems to care.What are these 'zillion more things' that are more important?This article concerns the enslavement of Women thats been going on since the dawn of time and the absolute contemp with which women are regarded in some parts of the world.So just put away your oh so pretentious conspiracy theories for a minute(maybe this makes us all feel less guilty, and frankly, Im sick of them)and think about whats going on.Maybe Clinton is latching on to a good cause for political gain,but its still just that,a good cause.I read this article on the 'Mail' and the worst rated comment was, 'respect other peoples culture'.For once the DM comment Mob had it right.If this is culture then clearly some cultures are better than others.This is a culture of slavery and is just a small part of the problem of Womens rights in some parts of the world.Now as you read this,I imagine you thinking 'yep.Knee jerk reaction'.Well your wrong,Ive arugued for Womens Emancipation in these places for a long time.

So dont tell me Im being manipulated.Where is your evidence for such a claim,Or maybe,you're more intelligent and we Plebs just cant see it.By all means be skeptical, just dont dismiss this as nonsense or some political conspiracy.

Well, if the illuminati or the Rothschilds or conspiring for freedom from slavery then ill support them.

[mongrel]

What utter nonsense!This is an important concern.This isnt new,its been reported for years and nobody seems to care.What are these 'zillion more things' that are more important?This article concerns the enslavement of Women thats been going on since the dawn of time and the absolute contemp with which women are regarded in some parts of the world.So just put away your oh so pretentious conspiracy theories for a minute(maybe this makes us all feel less guilty, and frankly, Im sick of them)and think about whats going on.Maybe Clinton is latching on to a good cause for political gain,but its still just that,a good cause.I read this article on the 'Mail' and the worst rated comment was, 'respect other peoples culture'.For once the DM comment Mob had it right.If this is culture then clearly some cultures are better than others.This is a culture of slavery and is just a small part of the problem of Womens rights in some parts of the world.Now as you read this,I imagine you thinking 'yep.Knee jerk reaction'.Well your wrong,Ive arugued for Womens Emancipation in these places for a long time.

So dont tell me Im being manipulated.Where is your evidence for such a claim,Or maybe,you're more intelligent and we Plebs just cant see it.By all means be skeptical, just dont dismiss this as nonsense or some political conspiracy.

Well, if the illuminati or the Rothschilds or conspiring for freedom from slavery then ill support them.

Amen to that.

[Aymer de Valence]

Half of the people in this mudpit disagree with anything the Daily Mail says. I would not be surprised if they denied that the Earth was spherical if it was written in the DM....


Meanwhile, why is it that people decide to take a stand when things are too late? Things should be done to prevent these marriages from taking place, not waiting till they're over.