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    Default I wish there was magick in Shogun 2?

    After a few hours of playing Shogun 2 and really enjoying the Warscape engine it suddenly hit me that I wish there was a fantasy version. Incorperating elements of Japanese mythology and the supernatural in the game. I don't just mean a few reskinned models but some nice explosions and area effects of said spells. Imagining your typical range of spells ala D & D but set into the period that the game spans. I think it's the campaign map which has most impresed me so far so just a few thoughts...

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    Default Re: I wish there was magick in Shogun 2?

    No. Total War has always been about history, and aside from some things, has stayed and been loyal to that. The past few games have shown a trend towards being even more historical.

    I find there are too many fantasy games on the market, and too few historical games.

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    Default Re: I wish there was magick in Shogun 2?

    CA seems to stick with historic wars.

    I usually don't like anything tying itself with fantasy. (except power metal for some reason )

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    obligatory Sengoku Basara video.


    (Its clickable by the way....An S2 overhaul mod.)

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    Default Re: I wish there was magick in Shogun 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by Erwin Rommel View Post
    obligatory Sengoku Basara video.

    Why cant Masamune do that in my campaign.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Mc View Post
    Why cant Masamune do that in my campaign.
    Coz it might be your playing a vanilla campaign and shows Date Teremune.

    There will be a submod soon in the Sekigahara Campaign that will have him dual wielding matchlocks while horseback. Sure not exactly 6 swords but its a small step to that direction

    (though already he does fire matchlock while mounted at the current Sekigahara mod version but its still not enough, we aim to have with 6 swords. )

    (Its clickable by the way....An S2 overhaul mod.)

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    Default Re: I wish there was magick in Shogun 2?

    The lack of magic is definitely one of TW's biggest assets!

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    Definatly not in a total war game, it just has no place at all. What I think would be quite excellent is a war hammer game based on this engine.

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    Default Re: I wish there was magick in Shogun 2?

    lol i find naive to say there is no magic in Total war games

    there is invisible ninjas in magic missiles in unhistorical units since Flaming pigs era


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    Default Re: I wish there was magick in Shogun 2?

    i have found it quite a bit of sorcery that one ninja can halt a whole army for a whole season

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    Default Re: I wish there was magick in Shogun 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by herne_the _hunter View Post
    After a few hours of playing Shogun 2 and really enjoying the Warscape engine it suddenly hit me that I wish there was a fantasy version. Incorperating elements of Japanese mythology and the supernatural in the game. I don't just mean a few reskinned models but some nice explosions and area effects of said spells. Imagining your typical range of spells ala D & D but set into the period that the game spans. I think it's the campaign map which has most impresed me so far so just a few thoughts...
    Not really a surprise to hear this, especially when you look at Japanese games and cartoons\movies based on the period that totally mix fantasy with reality. I wouldn`t be surprised if most of Japanese youngsters believe the fantasy more than the reality.

    I say no to this. But if CA decided to make a Total fantasy War then fine. I don`t have a problem if I know it`s fantasy set in a fantasy world like Lord of the Rings. Just don`t start mixing real history with this level of extreme fantasy. It`s bad enough as it is.

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    I agree. The graphics engine is incredible, especially when zoomed with the context camera with ultra textures. I seriously would looooove a Warhammer 40k game with this engine. The level of awesome when my chaos raptors jump into a squad of imperial guardsmen and then chop them up to bits would be phenomenal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokgar View Post
    I agree. The graphics engine is incredible, especially when zoomed with the context camera with ultra textures. I seriously would looooove a Warhammer 40k game with this engine. The level of awesome when my chaos raptors jump into a squad of imperial guardsmen and then chop them up to bits would be phenomenal.
    Death Korps of Krieg. That is all.

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    Default Re: I wish there was magick in Shogun 2?

    You can play Lord of Rings mod for Medieval II.

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    Default Re: I wish there was magick in Shogun 2?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokgar View Post
    I agree. The graphics engine is incredible, especially when zoomed with the context camera with ultra textures. I seriously would looooove a Warhammer 40k game with this engine. The level of awesome when my chaos raptors jump into a squad of imperial guardsmen and then chop them up to bits would be phenomenal.
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    Default Re: I wish there was magick in Shogun 2?

    Don't forget to make it so Toyotomi Hideyoshi can punch craters in the ground with his bare fists!

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    Default Re: I wish there was magick in Shogun 2?

    Well, Shogun 2 already has some not-so-realistic elements in it, like Samurai armed with bows firing significantly further than modern rifles, which I think sort of goes along with the romanticism of the time period, even if I don't particularly like it myself.

    But I agree that a fantasy Total War would be incredible.
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    Default Re: I wish there was magick in Shogun 2?

    Or you could just play World of Warcraft...
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    Default Re: I wish there was magick in Shogun 2?

    Meh...lack of fantasy is the thing that makes TW games as TW games.

    I would never like to see Oda Nobunaga shooting bolts of lightening from his arse, or Hideyoshi who flies around the battlefield.

    The verdict is, no, I would hate to have fantasy in TW games.

    You could try some other games, there was probably a game named Kessen 3 for Playstation with fantasy elements (if you have PS2/PS3 that is).
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    Default Re: I wish there was magick in Shogun 2?

    There's far to many era's I want TW to cover, such as Warring States China, 30 years war era, Victorian era. But eventually I assume we will cover most of the "eras" in which case sure, why not let them try their hand at it?

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