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    PKK brings freedom to Kurdish Youth with burning their schools. Kurdish youth, thanks to PKK (freedom fighters), now are free from the capitalist yoke, the schools. They are now free to work at fields for a few money, they are free to not become doctors, teachers, lawyers, mps, etc.

    Two teachers and one student are wounded today at Diyarbakir. Also, media reports another school attack with two wounded at Şemdinli today.
    Link: today's zaman
    A group of masked assailants suspected to be members of the terrorist Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) attacked a high school in the southeastern province of Diyarbakır on Tuesday, leaving two teachers and a student injured.

    The group threw Molotov cocktails and a percussion bomb at the Şehitlik High School early on Tuesday. The bombs hit the administrative section of the school, which also includes the teachers' room. Teachers Gülay Binay and Yusuf Karataş as well as 12th-grader Necat Oruç were injured in the attack.
    The injured were taken to hospital and the school administration suspended classes after the attack caused panic among students and teachers.
    Counterterrorism units are investigating the incident.
    This would not be the first time the PKK has attacked a school. Last month, a group of terrorists from the PKK set an elementary school on fire in a village in southeastern Turkey, nearly destroying the building.
    The terrorists set fire to Atatürk Elementary School in the village of Altınsu in Hakkari's Şemdinli district on Sept. 20.

    This is the not the first time PKK attacks and burns school, this is the not the first time PKK murders or wounds teachers. This is will not the last.


    I am laughing the naivety of idiots who believe PKK are freedom fighters.
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    Probably too stupid question, sorry:
    Why they do this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mishkin View Post
    Probably too stupid question, sorry:
    Why they do this?
    To bring freedom to Kurds!
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    Quote Originally Posted by white-wolf View Post
    To bring freedom to Kurds!
    Sorry, but how do they (PKK) explain these actions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mishkin View Post
    Sorry, but how do they (PKK) explain these actions?
    But, considering previous declarations and acts of PKK, I can say PKK is eradicating capitalist, imperialist tools that assimilating Kurds with filling their heads with all negative things like science, math, social studies, languages.
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    Why do you support the Syrian rebels yet you're utterly against the Kurds.The answer is obvious for me,I just want to hear you explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mishkin View Post
    Sorry, but how do they (PKK) explain these actions?
    They usually don't. Sometimes they apologize seeing the how negatively the public responds to their actions.

    They want to keep the region as underdeveloped as possible to have some influence. It's not coincidence that today majority of PKK members are not Turkish Kurds but usually from Syria.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mishkin View Post
    Sorry, but how do they (PKK) explain these actions?
    These schools are where childrean are indoctorinated with TUrkish nationalism, taken away from their culture and language. The Turkish education program being enforced on Kurds is seen as an assimilation program. They want to educate their own kids in their own language.
    "Therefore I am not in favour of raising any dogmatic banner. On the contrary, we must try to help the dogmatists to clarify their propositions for themselves. Thus, communism, in particular, is a dogmatic abstraction; in which connection, however, I am not thinking of some imaginary and possible communism, but actually existing communism as taught by Cabet, Dézamy, Weitling, etc. This communism is itself only a special expression of the humanistic principle, an expression which is still infected by its antithesis – the private system. Hence the abolition of private property and communism are by no means identical, and it is not accidental but inevitable that communism has seen other socialist doctrines – such as those of Fourier, Proudhon, etc. – arising to confront it because it is itself only a special, one-sided realisation of the socialist principle."
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    Quote Originally Posted by mishkin View Post
    Probably too stupid question, sorry:
    Why they do this?
    They think officials like teachers and doctors are agents of government and schools are the centers of assimilation, they attacked those buildings countless times, killed and kidnapped countless officials, they doing the same thing for workers who are working in government jobs, such as road workers, building workers etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tureuki View Post
    They think officials like teachers and doctors are agents of government and schools are the centers of assimilation, they attacked those buildings countless times, killed and kidnapped countless officials, they doing the same thing for workers who are working in government jobs, such as road workers, building workers etc.
    Now we're getting somewhere, thanks.

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    It is not the best way to open a thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anna_Gein View Post
    It is not the best way to open a thread.
    what is the best way to open a thread, I am curious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by white-wolf View Post
    what is the best way to open a thread, I am curious?
    In the Political Mudpit (and for some in any forum and sub-forum) ?

    - Been reasonable.
    - Offer as much information as possible.
    - Raise questions and allow people to have their own opinion on it rather forcing your answer with your opening post.
    - Try to not react too often during the firsts pages to allow people to debate. Just direct the discussion to avoid flaming and offer more explanation if someone question your point.
    - Do not flame the first person who disagree with your point.

    And the usual form of politeness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anna_Gein View Post
    In the Political Mudpit (and for some in any forum and sub-forum) ?

    - Been reasonable.
    - Offer as much information as possible.
    - Raise questions and allow people to have their own opinion on it rather forcing your answer with your opening post.
    - Try to not react too often during the firsts pages to allow people to debate. Just direct the discussion to avoid flaming and offer more explanation if someone question your point.
    - Do not flame the first person who disagree with your point.

    And the usual form of politeness.
    fair enough.

    do you think that in which point I am faulty? And these rules of yours are a must-do-list? Why I need to be polite? Where is in your list the freedom of speech?
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    Quote Originally Posted by white-wolf View Post
    fair enough.

    do you think that in which point I am faulty? And these rules of yours are a must-do-list? Why I need to be polite? Where is in your list the freedom of speech?
    Since you did not explained why PKK attack schools and teacher informations were lacking.
    The only reason yo gave was that PKK is very very bad. Neither this offer place to reasonably start a debate or even allow a future poster to build his opinion.
    I think it is pretty much evident you are flaming everyone who disagree with you or is simply not convince by your opinion (while is not opposed yet). Mentioning people who have not post yet with a utter negative opinion does certainly not show you as a reasonable person.
    But it is not too late to start the debate in good condition and respectful atmosphere

    Those points of mine are only my opinion. There is surely important points missing or things left unclear.

    You should be polite because it is the best way to communicate with someone else. Especially someone who does not know you.
    You must be polite because it is a rule of the forum.

    Freedom of speech implies that you are free to humiliate yourself or destroy your argumentation by your own but this kind of behaviour are not the best way to start a debate.
    Beside it in most countries freedom of speech does not support insult or harassment. Those may be punish by the law.

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    Default Re: PKK brings freedom(!) to Kurdish Youth

    So a bunch of masked people threw some fire-bombs at a school for no apparent reason.

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    It would have helped if you could prove it was the PKK, and if you could have provided a motive.

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    Has the PKK officially taken responsibility for this action?
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    well i believe it's really pointless to bring such cases here to show foreign pkk supporters how bad pkk is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sevisenturk View Post
    well i believe it's really pointless to bring such cases here to show foreign pkk supporters how bad pkk is. Anyone (I mean apart from Kurds) who supports pkk is just a butthurt Turkish hater and nothing much. No matter what you say here they will not care because they don't care about kurds or fredom etc its just about dealing some damage to Turkey.

    do you apply the same standards to supporting the Palestinians? Or the FSA?

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