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    Default David Cameron said he would veto EU budget plan even if UK is only opposition

    Thank you UK.

    Prime Minister David Cameron has said he would veto a new European Union budget "if necessary".

    The EU is beginning negotiations on its next budget for 2014 to 2020.

    Mr Cameron also told the BBC that in the longer term the EU should have two different budgets - one for countries in the eurozone and one for those outside the single currency.

    Last year Mr Cameron vetoed an EU-wide treaty to co-ordinate budget policies and impose penalties on rule-breakers.

    Speaking on the Andrew Marr show, on the first day of the Conservative Party conference, Mr Cameron said experience showed that "people in Europe know I mean what I say".

    "I sat round that table - 27 countries, 26 of them signing up to a treaty and I said, 'This is not in Britain's interests, I don't care how much pressure you put on, I'm not signing, we're not having it.'

    "They know I'm capable of saying no and if I don't get a good deal I'll say no again."

    He said he would block talks if "massive increases" in the budget were proposed or if a deal that "does not have proper control" was put forward.
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    Basically he is saying if EU tries to increase its budget for, you know, improve economy, he would say no?

    But the second part of article is even worse.

    The prime minister said the EU budget was a "classic example of where we should probably start to draw new lines".

    "There will come a time I believe where you're going to need to have two European budgets - one for the single currency, because they're going to have to support each other much more, and perhaps a wider budget for everybody else."
    Basically he is saying UK would not contribute that currency budget even it is an EU member.

    Mr Cameron also said he favoured a referendum on a renegotiated role for Britain in the EU but once again ruled out holding a simple Yes or No vote on Britain's membership.

    "The fact is, I think most people in our country don't actually want to leave the European Union or just accept how it is at the moment. They want to change it."
    Basically he is saying that British wants to enjoy the benefit of EU while try to avoid any contribution as much possible.

    Great, Mr Cameron, and to an extension UK, what the heck you guys are thinking about? It is pretty obviously that UK is expecting its EU membership would provide itself as much free meals as possible - in that case, why doesn't UK just leave EU and act more as close partner of EU similar as Russia?

    Oh wait I forget British's balls are safe-kept in White House by Americans now.
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    Hellheaven are you incapable of creating an objective OP?
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    Hellheaven are you incapable of creating an objective OP?
    Because the OP is a renowned Asian Europhile. Prolly a Belgian even.
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    Because the OP is a renowned Asian Europhile. Prolly a Belgian even.
    Be honest I am more a Russophile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Thank you UK.
    Basically he is saying UK would not contribute that currency budget even it is an EU member.

    Great, Mr Cameron, and to an extension UK, what the heck you guys are thinking about? It is pretty obviously that UK is expecting its EU membership would provide itself as much free meals as possible - in that case, why doesn't UK just leave EU and act more as close partner of EU similar as Russia?

    Oh wait I forget British's balls are safe-kept in White House by Americans now.
    Before all the Europhiles start whining,This is nothing but empty words from Cameron,designed to get votes.Secondly,Why on earth would Britain contribute to the Single currency when it is not a member.
    Believe me when I say this is Political spin, Britain will continue to pay for Europe.British Balls may be Kept in the White House(why do Europhiles resent the U.S so much?)but the Tory parties balls are firmly in Brussels.(why bring testicles into it?)

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    To me this just seems like Cameron saying anything he can to try and stop the hemorrhaging of support he is currently causing for himself and his party. I do not imagine he will actually follow through with this, so don't worry we will continue to waste ever increasing amounts of our money on the continent for ever and ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernicus II View Post
    Believe me when I say this is Political spin, Britain will continue to pay for Europe.British Balls may be Kept in the White House(why do Europhiles resent the U.S so much?)but the Tory parties balls are firmly in Brussels.(why bring testicles into it?)
    Didn't you know that we Anglo-Saxons are working to take the EU down from the inside? We have them right where we want them now - giving them billions of pounds a year for very little in return is all part of the plan .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernicus II View Post
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    Believe me when I say this is Political spin, Britain will continue to pay for Europe.British Balls may be Kept in the White House(why do Europhiles resent the U.S so much?)
    Because they have spent 60 years bending us to their will, against our national interests? NATO and the US alliance stopped being in out interests the second the USSR fell, now it is a mill stone dragging us down. The US going Isolationist again would be the best thing that could happen to the world this century.

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    He is correct, there should be two seperate budgets, a smaller one for non-Eurozone members and a larger Eurozone one.

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    Default Re: David Cameron said he would veto EU budget plan even if UK is only opposition

    Cameron is trying to avoid the political storm this guy had to deal with concerning the EU.


    I have to agree with the dual budget idea though.
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    I dont see whats so utterly ridiculous about the dual-budget thing.

    I'm not sure I totally agree with it, but its pretty reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post

    Basically he is saying that British wants to enjoy the benefit of EU while try to avoid any contribution as much possible.
    Sound like a plan does that.

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    Default Re: David Cameron said he would veto EU budget plan even if UK is only opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by hellheaven1987 View Post
    Basically he is saying that British wants to enjoy the benefit of EU while try to avoid any contribution as much possible.
    Hasn't that always been the position of Great Britain in the EU ? Like pretty much all European states.

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    Default Re: David Cameron said he would veto EU budget plan even if UK is only opposition

    Hmmmm.

    Does anyone in Britain even like Cameron? It's not as if the Conservatives outright won the election.
    We'd probably have been better off if Labour and Lib-Dems had formed a coalition.

    It's a shame really, I would never have voted for the Conservatives but after they came in, for a few months, Cameron was talking about how he was going to sort stuff out and he was a politician and he wasn't there to be a celebrity and all this. I genuinely had some respect for him and thought that he might actually be on to something but he's just turned into another scumbag politician who lies and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Comrade_Rory View Post
    Hmmmm.

    Does anyone in Britain even like Cameron? It's not as if the Conservatives outright won the election.
    We'd probably have been better off if Labour and Lib-Dems had formed a coalition.
    He goes down reasonably well better than Gordon Brown did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enzo View Post
    He goes down reasonably well better than Gordon Brown did.
    That's not saying much though

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    Default Re: David Cameron said he would veto EU budget plan even if UK is only opposition

    Quote Originally Posted by Comrade_Rory View Post
    Hmmmm.


    We'd probably have been better off if Labour and Lib-Dems had formed a coalition.
    No NO and never, to me all the parties are useless,but a lib-dem(10% liberal/90% socialist)and Labour coalition would have put us in a slightly worse position.Also all that hate for Gordon Brown was nothing but orchestrated .He was no more usless than the rest of the champagne socialists that now form the 3 main parties leadership.

    Oh, if the Tories dont get a majority in 2015 then you will get your wish/my nightmare.Not that a tory majority is going to be brilliant or anything.Prehaps the slightly lesser of two evils.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibernicus II View Post
    No NO and never, to me all the parties are useless,but a lib-dem(10% liberal/90% socialist)and Labour coalition would have put us in a slightly worse position.Also all that hate for Gordon Brown was nothing but orchestrated .He was no more usless than the rest of the champagne socialists that now form the 3 main parties leadership.

    Oh, if the Tories dont get a majority in 2015 then you will get your wish/my nightmare.Not that a tory majority is going to be brilliant or anything.Prehaps the slightly lesser of two evils.
    Socialists who cut public spending on both transfer payments to the lower and middle incomes, the disabled and the unemployed, cut taxes on the wealthy and raise taxes on the less wealthy....

    That is a bloody odd definition of "socialist" you have there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorn777 View Post
    So Austerity implemted but not working = austerity measures not implemented.

    Well, what can one expect from a monetarist raized radical-centrist ideologue....
    Oh Thorn, I see your love of hyperbolic adjective remains unchanged.

    It's "raised", by the way.
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    Oh Thorn, I see your love of hyperbolic adjective remains unchanged.

    It's "raised", by the way.
    So you also think Greece has not undergone austerity?

    Well, in my book that crappy fabricated talkingpoint is "hyperbole". Of the srs manipulative type parrotted around. But you can maybe prove me wrong instead of making ad hominems and pedantic spelling corrections.

    I see you just got a couple of posts, so lemme share with you that I dont care for spelling and ad hominems are OK, I do em all the time, just make them right, and dont forget to make a point somewhere.
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    we can safely say that a % of those 130 were Houthi/Iranian militants that needed to be stopped unfortunately

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    Default Re: David Cameron said he would veto EU budget plan even if UK is only opposition

    Cameron a !

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