PunitorMaximus' Russo-Turkish War of 1877/78 Mod

[PunitorMaximus]

you got a good pic or colour example of the serbian infantry?
also, are there special colours for the collars and branches or sleeves?
same for cavalry

[ComnenusTheOne]

you got a good pic or colour example of the serbian infantry?
also, are there special colours for the collars and branches or sleeves?
same for cavalry

The Serb Infantry is simple

Blue Sajkaca hat (yeah you know the blue color, the classic blue color, maybe a liiiiiiiiiiil bit dark)
Brown Tunic (the collar and branch usually have a red color, usually)
Blue pants, same color with sajkaca hat
Boots

The cavalry... well... lemme see




The 1869 uniform applies for cavalry as well as infantry as you can see.... BUT, BUT....



In 1878 it was already replaced with this uniform, so cavalry and infantry actually ended up having a different uniform. For a short period.



This is a Serbian Lancer Horseman, special type of cavalry.

Anyways, the way i see it you can do two things: 1) keep the same model for cavalry and infantry. 2) put the new type cavalry for Serbia and keep infantry in the 69 uniform. The Lancers remained the same until the switch to the 20th century blue-red uniform (which reminds me, apparently the maroon color for the Serbian early infantry doesnt fit, and i am very sorry but you need to turn it into red again..... sorry)

[Goutlard]

Getting closer to the era :
Russo turkish war : (1877–1878)
Abdülaziz Period uniforms (Abdülaziz : 1830-1876)

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[Miralem]

Is this available for the Singleplayer campaign or only battles? And can I see some screenies of Rumania?

[PunitorMaximus]

great, comnenus, thx a bunch! you know i have to know every single detail of a uniform

and i am very sorry but you need to turn it into red again..... sorry

pipette ---> bucket---> done

the serbian roster:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

infantry:


cavalry:


lancers:

lancers and cav: french kepi?

also goutlard, very useful! this will bring you a bunch of new ottoman units
although the marksmen got yellow jacket patterns and the artillery uniform was heavily simplyfied in 1877.
did the zouaves stay the same?

miralem: custom battle only, as im not able to mod the campaign yet. you will be able to see screens of all new factions at once and play v. 2.0 in a few days.

[ComnenusTheOne]

Well... practically, the only way to have absolutely every detail of the uniforms available to us, is to go to military museums with a history student ID and hope that they will show us everything we want. Not everything is on the internet.

But dont make the blue for the Serbians THAT bright. Grey-fy it and darken it a sliiiiiight bit. It will be perfect otherwise. And le screenshots.

[PunitorMaximus]

But dont make the blue for the Serbians THAT bright. Grey-fy it and darken it a sliiiiiight bit. It will be perfect otherwise

i took the colour sample from the TWTEAW cavalry.
so the cav and lancer use french kepis? or is the lancer one even straighter?

[ComnenusTheOne]

i took the colour sample from the TWTEAW cavalry.
so the cav and lancer use french kepis? or is the lancer one even straighter?

I think the lancer is straighter.

[Miralem]

@Punitor => Montenegro included? Need resources?

[ComnenusTheOne]

@Punitor => Montenegro included? Need resources?

I gave him a photo of the Montenegrin army at that time, mostly militia with their traditional uniform. I doubt it will be more than an extra unit of the Serbian army though.

[PunitorMaximus]

yep, comnenus gave me all info i need. afaik montenegro had no own regulars, like in the early 20th century.

[ComnenusTheOne]

yep, comnenus gave me all info i need. afaik montenegro had no own regulars, like in the early 20th century.

Screenshots now....

[Goutlard]

Concerning the zuaves : I do not have any further information about them. Yet it looks like their uniforms did not change.
Needs confirmation !

[Miralem]

I gave him a photo of the Montenegrin army at that time, mostly militia with their traditional uniform. I doubt it will be more than an extra unit of the Serbian army though.

You know wrong xD

As I am an expert in Montenegrin history in the 19th Century, to be more precise 1796-end of WW2, Montenegro itself did have elite fully equipped units serving in its military 1850s-est , the Montenegrin army was much more elite than the Serbians, even though Serbia was much much better equipped.

Montenegro had 2 special "regiments"
-The "Garda" (Guards batallion)
-"Perjanici" (Usually were the policing unit of the Montenegrin army, elites)

They were fully uniformed up to that day modern standards, I'll post more data later as I gotta go.

[PunitorMaximus]

Montenegro had 2 special "regiments"
-The "Garda" (Guards batallion)
-"Perjanici" (Usually were the policing unit of the Montenegrin army, elites)

They were fully uniformed up to that day modern standards, I'll post more data later as I gotta go.

oh, great, 2 more units you got colour pics or drawing of their uniform?

[Miralem]

Yes, I still have to find them, they've hidden themselves somewhere in my D:\ ( Which has about 30GB of various photos all in one folder.... U know ^^ xD )

[PunitorMaximus]

good luck, man

[ComnenusTheOne]

Yes, i am sure you have info AND uniforms and they were some awesome and hardcore sons of a gun. Where is the info? Where is the unit description? Theeee photos maybe? Or some of painting or pictures?

Yes i thought so.

If you are talking about these guys....



That's precisely what i've shown PM as a Montenegrin unit. That does not make them a uniformal, "elite" unit. Elite from what? Extensive drills and war? They were more police officers than soldiers. What was elite in them?

[Miralem]

good luck, man

Haha, thanks, I've done finding and compiling them into good data

I too can send some more info about the uniforms like a resevists batallion uniform ( old 1850s uniforms from the era of Danilo I ) or militias if you wanna create another nation, which itself on creation would not be so much work

There's 5 "units" from Montenegro
-Montenegrin general staff ("Generalštab")
-Guards ( "Garda" )
-Mobilised elite police ("Perjanici")
-Artillery (Artiljerija) // 75mm artillery, fine pieces


////GARDA - Guards batallion - Elite Infantry
*Notes
-Never retreats
-Elite at melee and shooting
-Pretty mobile
-Max 3 in a battle

Spoiler for "Garda" infantry: 

[b]Left : Private, Right: NCO ( flagman & drummer )

Spoiler for "Garda" officer: 

*Carries Order of Danilo I

///// PERJANICI / Elite Police - Elite Skrimishers
*Notes
-Retreats only after really hard losses
-Elite in melee, one of the best
-Shooting is less accurate, but they reload it faster than most units
-Highly mobile
-Max 10 in a battle

Spoiler for Perjanik (<singular of Perjanici) infantryman: 

Spoiler for Perjanik Colonel: 

*Carries Order of St. George IV class and the Order of Danilo I of Montenegro

//// Generalštab /General Staff - Commanders
*Notes
- In the Serbian ( if Montenegro isn't independant) roster, it is considered like general's bodyguard
- Strong effect on enemy troops, lowers their morale
- Max 2 in a battle

Spoiler for Main general: 

*Carries medals :
-Order of Danilo I 2nd class, neck
- Order of Danilo I 1st class, breast star
-Order of St.George 1st class, breast star

Spoiler for Other members of the General Staff: 

*Carry medals:
- Order of Danilo I 1st class, breast star

That is all If you will include Montenegro as a seperate state, I can give you more info with detailed pics such as reserve infantry and militia so that you can make more units

Yes, i am sure you have info AND uniforms and they were some awesome and hardcore sons of a gun. Where is the info? Where is the unit description? Theeee photos maybe? Or some of painting or pictures?

Yes i thought so.

If you are talking about these guys....



That's precisely what i've shown PM as a Montenegrin unit. That does not make them a uniformal, "elite" unit. Elite from what? Extensive drills and war? They were more police officers than soldiers. What was elite in them?

Those are normal police officers

[PunitorMaximus]

wow, thx very nice. simple and modern uniforms, i like!
they had no own line infantry?

BTW: 75% of new models and textures done. next release is a big one!