Anyone else disappointed with the boyish look of soldiers?

[Gandreg]

From the videos and screenshots i have seen the soldiers appear to be very young and boyish looking with slight builds etc. I find this very unappealing.

I would argue that Rome had professional standing armies with men that served a minimum 25 year term. In other words grown men. Not drafted 16 year old kids. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Roman_army

The cynic in me believes this is another stupid marketing thing from the marketing department that believes it will appeal to their target audience of "young gamers."

Whether this is true or not, I have to say i am very disappointed in the boyish soldier models.

Your thoughts?

[Lockcaps]

My thoughts?

Pre-alpha.

[Diglytron]

My thoughts?

Pre-alpha.

[Chevalier IX]

They are currently showing the republican armies from the days of the Punic Wars,where there were in fact a large number of young men aged 16 to 25.This held true throughout the Imperial age as well.You must recall the limited lifetime of most people in the ancient world.One was pretty much expected to have found their life direction well before the age of 20,and for many this was a life in the army,be it a conscript or otherwise.Even the standing armies of today are not comprised of grizzled old men,or even men in their thirties when we consider the non officers

[Totalheadache]

2 early to tell but tbh i'd rather no disappearing faces more than anything.

what is the classic face for a Roman legionary? (there's enough busts around in museums...although these are mostly generals so perhaps not the best judge of rank and file but for facial structure it's a good start) I think a good mixture...def some beards and the odd tash. (although the germans and celts have them no?)

i do sometimes think if CA are actually going through some old sources/evidence....or just making it up.

[Bethencourt]

From the videos and screenshots i have seen the soldiers appear to be very young and boyish looking with slight builds etc. I find this very unappealing.

I would argue that Rome had professional standing armies with men that served a minimum 25 year term. In other words grown men. Not drafted 16 year old kids. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Roman_army

The cynic in me believes this is another stupid marketing thing from the marketing department that believes it will appeal to their target audience of "young gamers."

Whether this is true or not, I have to say i am very disappointed in the boyish soldier models.

Your thoughts?

A that time there was no proffesional army in Rome, so no 25 years of service.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_reforms

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punic_Wars

[Lockcaps]

Well units with more experience will look more hardened/scarred than the newly recruited ones, maybe the ones in the Battle for Carthage are inexperiences, or(most likely) they haven't got to that yet.

[Modestus]

Reminds me of Zoolander.

Blue steel

[Bethencourt]

Remember that life was very short then, from 40 years old up you were old.

[Modestus]

Remember that life was very short then, from 40 years old up you were old.

Yes life was short but they had very good skin care products.

[Bethencourt]

Yes life was short but they had very good skin care products.

Yes dying young keeps you from getting old. But I do not like secondary effects really.

[Pinarius]

I don't think these faces look too young, it's rather the hairless arms and legs that are rather odd. That makes them looking too smooth.

Actually, if games like Napoleon TW had been more realistic, you would have seen some young teenage boys as midshipmen (low ranking officers), like in "Master and Commander":

[Father Jack]

I would argue that Rome had professional standing armies with men that served a minimum 25 year term. In other words grown men. Not drafted 16 year old kids. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Roman_army

Nope, not until the Marian reforms in 107 BC. The Roman army of the Punic Wars was not professional so there would have been many young soldiers still in their late teens. Hell, even people in their 20s can still look very young.

The cynic in me believes this is another stupid marketing thing from the marketing department that believes it will appeal to their target audience of "young gamers."

I don't think so and perhaps you need to look at the faces of more 16-25 year olds (i.e. the prime age span for a drafted soldier). Not many will have rugged and weathered features.

Whether this is true or not, I have to say i am very disappointed in the boyish soldier models.

Were you expecting them to all look like He-Man or the characters from 300 or Conan the Barbarian? They look like young men in their late teens/early 20s to me.

[Stavroforos]

Nope.

[ngr]

For me all those pictures looks just ugly and too cartoonish. I don't understand which improved eye-candy CA means, 'coz Rome now looks much worse then S2TW... Though really I don't care that much about eye-candy and would prefer CA to care more about AI and stuff like that.

[bobbin]

For me all those pictures looks just ugly and too cartoonish. I don't understand which improved eye-candy CA means, 'coz Rome now looks much worse then S2TW... Though really I don't care that much about eye-candy and would prefer CA to care more about AI and stuff like that.

Pre. Alpha.

Why are people constantly failing to remember this?

Ridiculous ...Every Roman is clean shaven, right CA...Teenage me some more..

The Romans we quite well known for liking to be clean shaven at the time actually.

[DarthShizNit]

I don't think I've ever cared less about anything in my entire life.

[hellas1]

The Romans we quite well known for liking to be clean shaven at the time actually.

This cannot be as when one looks at the art anyway, beards are clearly shown on roman soldiers faces.

Besides....Were it not for Carthage & Greece, Rome would be nothing both militarily & culturally AND fashion wise too!

Hannibal- Beats the Romans senseless...He should have kept his tactics as secret as possible

Pyrrhus- Beats the Romans on their own soil and only "failed" when not supported by the rest of the Macedonian Greek kings..were things reversed: No Rome.....1 King vs. the Roman Republic, right..

Virgil-Captive Greece has taken Rome captive....Indeed the Byzantine Empire proves this..

hellas1

[DarthShizNit]

^
Well that was random

[bobbin]

This cannot be as when one looks at the art anyway, beards are clearly shown on roman soldiers faces.

Some do, but most depictions of Roman males show them as clean shaven. Take a look at Trajans column for example.