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    Default Game lagging, wasn't before ....

    So yeah, basically, I played this probably the good part of a year back and I was playing with 2gb Ram and Vista. I just played with 2.1, large units mostly and didn't lag.

    I'm now finding with 2.5 or at least my new install, that I lag during battles even with large troops.
    And now I have 4GB ram and a very strong graphics card.

    Any ideas as to why I might be having issues?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rushwithoutmercy View Post
    .................
    And now I have 4GB ram and a very strong graphics card.

    Any ideas as to why I might be having issues?....
    Your RAM & Graphics card have changed - and therefore I have to ask whether the base PC has as well?

    If so, what was the old CPU Speed compared to the new one? RTW only uses the CPU speed, it knows nothing about modern graphics cards' abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ur-Lord Tedric View Post
    Your RAM & Graphics card have changed - and therefore I have to ask whether the base PC has as well?

    If so, what was the old CPU Speed compared to the new one? RTW only uses the CPU speed, it knows nothing about modern graphics cards' abilities.
    I don't know. I know the PC is much better than it was before, in all aspects.

    Could this have something to do with my installation?

    I installed RS2 , all 4 parts and then installed 2.5 ontop of it. Would that create problems?





    Ok, just did a fresh install. When I run the first battle with Hannibal on large units/1 turn, I don't lag at all. I also bring a few reinforcements.

    When I do 0-turn and huge with reinforcements, I lag alot, although my CPU is only at 35-40% usage and my RAM at around 70%. That's also using hi res unit models and highest unit textures. Not sure why I'm lagging so badly......
    Last edited by Rushwithoutmercy; October 04, 2012 at 04:28 PM.

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    Default Re: Game lagging, wasn't before ....

    Go into Start menu and do this:

    Control Panel\System and Security\System

    Then tell me what your processor is
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    Intel core 2 quad CPU 2.40GHZ

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    ohhhhhhh, 2.40 is the problem, i use a 3.30 GHz processor and i have seemless gameplay with the occasional spaz my game has
    i think you should get at least 3.0GHz
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    Yeah, the problem is...I didn't really have any issues before I upgraded my RAM and other stuff.

    I mean, lol

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    yea, processors can make or break a game performance, my old PC had that problem
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    Default Re: Game lagging, wasn't before ....

    Suitable replacement?

    got an Asus motherboard.

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    Default Re: Game lagging, wasn't before ....

    press the windows + the r letter

    type dxdiag

    in the lower corner of the program there is a button to save the info on txt do it. and post it here or some screenshots of the various tabs

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    Default Re: Game lagging, wasn't before ....

    If you have the problem with a new install it might just be a problem with the preferences. e.g. turn vegatation detail down and see how it works then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carmir View Post
    If you have the problem with a new install it might just be a problem with the preferences. e.g. turn vegatation detail down and see how it works then.
    What does HighResDMB do?

    Also, I can't run the PreferencesEditor Application /unable to open preferences txt

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    Default Re: Game lagging, wasn't before ....

    I've got a quad-core processor thats like 2.2ghz or something like that and it runs 2.5 with units at ultra and all graphics on high. I do turn shadows off, seems like a rather pointless use of system resources to me.

    I just recently found out that Total War games only use one core... kind of lame, but this machine runs everything up to Shogun II really well. I'll probably be due for a new one when Rome 2 comes out. I can't wait!!!

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    Default Re: Game lagging, wasn't before ....

    Quote Originally Posted by Rushwithoutmercy View Post
    What does HighResDMB do?

    Also, I can't run the PreferencesEditor Application /unable to open preferences txt
    it applies a high res pack.

    your pc should work very well with the mod, the only major problem there would be the cpu.

    what you can do is, clean uninstall your drivers and install new ones for the gpu, since you said you changed it. and after that you can use a program like ccleaner and clean the mess that its supposed to be in there.

    I would also uninstall rtw and rs2 and install new, get your save files btw.

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    64 bit Vista!
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    WM ASF Writer,0x00400000,0,0,,11.00.6001.7000
    VBI Surface Allocator,0x00600000,1,1,vbisurf.ax,6.00.6001.18000
    MMACE SoftEmu,0x00200000,0,2,MMACEFilters.dll,
    File writer,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18000
    Haali Simple Media Splitter,0x00200000,0,1,splitter.ax,1.11.0288.0000
    DirectVobSub,0x00200000,2,1,vsfilter.dll,1.05.0003.3917
    DirectVobSub (auto-loading version),0x00800002,2,1,vsfilter.dll,1.05.0003.3917
    MONOGRAM AMR Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,mmamr.ax,1.00.0001.0000
    DVD Navigator,0x00200000,0,3,,6.06.6002.18533
    MMACE DeInterlace,0x00200000,0,2,MMACEFilters.dll,
    Overlay Mixer2,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
    Haali Matroska Muxer,0x00200000,1,0,splitter.ax,1.11.0288.0000
    AVI Draw,0x00600064,9,1,,6.06.6002.18533
    MONOGRAM AMR Mux,0x00600000,1,1,mmamr.ax,1.00.0001.0000
    DC-Bass Source,0x00400000,0,1,DCBassSource.ax,1.03.0000.0000
    Microsoft MPEG-2 Audio Encoder,0x00200000,2,0,msmpeg2enc.dll,11.00.6002.18005
    WST Pager,0x00800000,1,1,WSTPager.ax,6.06.6001.18000
    MPEG-2 Demultiplexer,0x00600000,1,1,mpg2splt.ax,6.06.6002.18363
    DV Video Decoder,0x00800000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
    ffdshow Audio Processor,0x00200000,1,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.4212.0000
    LAV Splitter Source,0x00400001,0,1,LAVSplitter.ax,0.43.0000.0000
    SampleGrabber,0x00200000,1,1,qedit.dll,6.06.6002.18005
    Null Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,qedit.dll,6.06.6002.18005
    VP7 Decompressor,0x00800000,1,1,vp7dec.ax,7.00.0010.0000
    MONOGRAM Musepack Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,mmmpcdmx.ax,0.04.0000.0000
    madFlac Source,0x00600000,0,1,madFlac.ax,1.10.0000.0000
    MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x005fffff,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.6002.18496
    Microsoft AC3 Encoder,0x00200000,1,1,msac3enc.dll,11.00.6002.18005
    StreamBufferSource,0x00200000,0,0,sbe.dll,6.06.6002.18363
    Smart Tee,0x00200000,1,2,,6.06.6001.18000
    Overlay Mixer,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6002.18533
    AVI Decompressor,0x00600000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
    AVI/WAV File Source,0x00400000,0,2,,6.06.6002.18533
    Wave Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
    MIDI Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
    Multi-file Parser,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
    File stream renderer,0x00400000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
    WavPack Audio Splitter,0x00600000,1,1,WavPackDSSplitter.ax,1.01.0000.0323
    ffdshow subtitles filter,0x00200000,2,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.4212.0000
    Microsoft MPEG-1/DD Audio Decoder,0x005fffff,1,1,msmpeg2adec.dll,11.00.6001.7000
    AVI Mux,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6001.18000
    Line 21 Decoder 2,0x00600002,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
    File Source (Async.),0x00400000,0,1,,6.06.6002.18533
    File Source (URL),0x00400000,0,1,,6.06.6002.18533
    LAV Audio Decoder,0x00800003,1,1,LAVAudio.ax,0.43.0000.0000
    LAV Video Decoder,0x00800003,1,1,LAVVideo.ax,0.43.0000.0000
    Haali Video Sink,0x00200000,1,0,splitter.ax,1.11.0288.0000
    AC3File,0x00600000,0,1,ac3file.ax,
    Infinite Pin Tee Filter,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
    Enhanced Video Renderer,0x00200000,1,0,evr.dll,6.00.6002.18005
    BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00200000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.6002.18496
    MPEG Video Decoder,0x40000001,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533

    WDM Streaming Tee/Splitter Devices:
    Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000

    Video Compressors:
    WMVideo8 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
    WMVideo9 Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
    MSScreen 9 encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
    DV Video Encoder,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000
    ffdshow video encoder,0x00100000,1,1,ffdshow.ax,1.01.4212.0000
    MJPEG Compressor,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6002.18533
    Cinepak Codec by Radius,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
    ffdshow Video Codec,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
    Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
    Intel IYUV codec,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
    Microsoft RLE,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
    Microsoft Video 1,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
    Xvid MPEG-4 Codec,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000
    Xvid MPEG-4 Codec,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6001.18000

    Audio Compressors:
    WM Speech Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
    WMAudio Encoder DMO,0x00600800,1,1,,
    IMA ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
    PCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
    Microsoft ADPCM,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
    GSM 6.10,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
    CCITT A-Law,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
    CCITT u-Law,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
    AC-3 ACM Codec,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533
    MPEG Layer-3,0x00200000,1,1,,6.06.6002.18533

    Audio Capture Sources:
    Microphone (Realtek High Defini,0x00200000,0,0,,6.06.6001.18000

    Midi Renderers:
    Default MidiOut Device,0x00800000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18533
    Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18533

    WDM Streaming Capture Devices:
    ,0x00000000,0,0,,
    Realtek HD Audio Line input,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
    Realtek HD Audio Mic input,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
    Realtek HD Audio Stereo input,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000

    WDM Streaming Rendering Devices:
    AMD HD Audio HDMI out #0,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
    Realtek HD Audio output,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000
    Realtek HDA SPDIF Out,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000

    BDA Network Providers:
    Microsoft ATSC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.6002.18496
    Microsoft DVBC Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.6002.18496
    Microsoft DVBS Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.6002.18496
    Microsoft DVBT Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSDvbNP.ax,6.06.6002.18496
    Microsoft Network Provider,0x00200000,0,1,MSNP.ax,6.06.6002.18005

    Multi-Instance Capable VBI Codecs:
    VBI Codec,0x00600000,1,4,VBICodec.ax,6.06.6001.18000

    BDA Transport Information Renderers:
    BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter,0x00600000,2,0,psisrndr.ax,6.06.6002.18496
    MPEG-2 Sections and Tables,0x00600000,1,0,Mpeg2Data.ax,6.06.6002.18496

    BDA CP/CA Filters:
    Decrypt/Tag,0x00600000,1,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.6002.18528
    Encrypt/Tag,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.6002.18528
    XDS Codec,0x00200000,0,0,EncDec.dll,6.06.6002.18528

    WDM Streaming Communication Transforms:
    Tee/Sink-to-Sink Converter,0x00200000,1,1,,6.00.6001.18000

    Audio Renderers:
    Speakers (Realtek High Definiti,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18533
    Default DirectSound Device,0x00800000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18533
    Default WaveOut Device,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18533
    DirectSound: Realtek Digital Output (Realtek High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18533
    DirectSound: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio),0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18533
    Realtek Digital Output (Realtek,0x00200000,1,0,,6.06.6002.18533


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    Last edited by Brusilov; October 08, 2012 at 04:33 PM.

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    Default Re: Game lagging, wasn't before ....

    Don't forget that the game engine (exe) is very old - it dates from before 2004.

    The game will only use a single core of memory and many features of modern (or nearly modern) GPUs are not used either.

    Try runing things like IOBIT's GameBooster (free) software to stop many background services (Windows) while you are in 'game' mode.

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