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    Default Proper Mongol/Cuman Portraits and Nomad Culture

    I have been wondering why there is no proper Mongol and Cuman General Portraits and models and since the Mesoamerican culture has been disabled, why there is no "Nomadic" culture to represent these two mighty Steppe nations?

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    Default Re: Proper Mongol/Cuman Portraits and Nomad Culture

    Quote Originally Posted by Dumanthis View Post
    I have been wondering why there is no proper Mongol and Cuman General Portraits and models and since the Mesoamerican culture has been disabled, why there is no "Nomadic" culture to represent these two mighty Steppe nations?
    was there one in vanilla?
    Quote Originally Posted by wyrda78 View Post
    Well maybe if there was a thread instructing people on how to mod there would be more modders.

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    Default Re: Proper Mongol/Cuman Portraits and Nomad Culture

    The SS team doesn't know/doesn't want to do them, maybe.

    For portraits, you could just import the Nomad portraits from RTW:BI if you're feeling lazy.

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    Default Re: Proper Mongol/Cuman Portraits and Nomad Culture

    They dont have another space for "nomad culture". Pagan orthodox catholic islamic + rebel Heretic. Thats all i belive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The-Monetary View Post
    They dont have another space for "nomad culture". Pagan orthodox catholic islamic + rebel Heretic. Thats all i belive.
    Culture And Religion are not the same thing..

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    Default Re: Proper Mongol/Cuman Portraits and Nomad Culture

    Quote Originally Posted by The-Monetary View Post
    They dont have another space for "nomad culture". Pagan orthodox catholic islamic + rebel Heretic. Thats all i belive.
    Cultures and religion are separate things in M2TW. The current cultures are (AFAIK):

    Northern-European
    Southern-European
    Islamic
    Meso-American

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    Default Re: Proper Mongol/Cuman Portraits and Nomad Culture

    As far as I am aware of the cultures that are in the game:

    Northern European (Used)
    Southern European (Used)
    Eastern European (Used)
    Middle Eastern (Used)
    Mesoamerican (Not used?)
    Northern American (Not used?)

    So using those free culture slots i think making the Nomad culture should be possible.

    However I can't believe that SS team would not want to improve their mod as it comes to the mongols and cumans since Mongolian/central asian players would actually think that making mongols have Islamic portraits a RAPE of their great Empires Genghis Khan with turban and middle eastern beard does not actually give him the right feeling and recognition which this mod maybe should give him

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    Default Re: Proper Mongol/Cuman Portraits and Nomad Culture

    Quote Originally Posted by Dumanthis View Post
    As far as I am aware of the cultures that are in the game:
    However I can't believe that SS team would not want to improve their mod as it comes to the mongols and cumans since Mongolian/central asian players would actually think that making mongols have Islamic portraits a RAPE of their great Empires Genghis Khan with turban and middle eastern beard does not actually give him the right feeling and recognition which this mod maybe should give him
    I feel the same way. However, you have to hand it to the SS team for creating all new textures for Mongol/Cuman/Timurid units on the battle map. Their outfits and faces look quite realistic now, so much so that some of the European knights and soldiers' faces look cartoonish in comparison (some archer and militia units come to mind). The Mongols and Timurids in vanilla MD2TW just looked dreadful, but now they look awesome.

    My only gripe is that they didn't make their AS Rocket Launcher unit look like Song-dynasty Chinese soldiers. Considering how their gunpowder tech units would have been conquered Chinese subjects.

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    Default Re: Proper Mongol/Cuman Portraits and Nomad Culture

    I'd love to see nomad culture. Just putting my two cents in. Also, while I'm here, what religion do the Mongols have?

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    Default Re: Proper Mongol/Cuman Portraits and Nomad Culture

    Quote Originally Posted by DC53 View Post
    I'd love to see nomad culture. Just putting my two cents in. Also, while I'm here, what religion do the Mongols have?
    Pagan

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    Default Re: Proper Mongol/Cuman Portraits and Nomad Culture

    I think the Mongol and Cuman units were taken from Rusichi.

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    Yes I think that too that they were taken from the Rusichi Team. Those Battlefield models are simply AMAZING. SS mod team pls pay attention to this thread and answer if possible what you think ?
    Last edited by Dumanthis; September 24, 2012 at 05:23 AM.

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    Default Re: Proper Mongol/Cuman Portraits and Nomad Culture

    What exactly do you want to do with the new culture? You'd have to make new unit cards for the buildings and campaign map models for the cities. And portraits for the characters. I don't know what other effect you want.

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    For the effort required its not worth it to me. If we had new voices and building art then it would be cool but otherwise its only small things to change for a relatively large effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichon View Post
    For the effort required its not worth it to me. If we had new voices and building art then it would be cool but otherwise its only small things to change for a relatively large effort.
    Not worth effort? Why to mod the game then at all ?

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    Default Re: Proper Mongol/Cuman Portraits and Nomad Culture

    Please start modding then.

    See if you can get any stuff from BC.

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