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    Default Re: Does Damask Steel have permission from SS?

    Quote Originally Posted by k/t View Post
    Give a fake number.
    I can't give a fake number because it requires you put in some kind of code they send to your phone after you put in the number, or something like that. I tried putting in a bunch of fake numbers and it didn't work.

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    Default Re: Does Damask Steel have permission from SS?

    By they i mean that it was made at the same site as this mod, most likely a mod to just improve the russian factions, and was later incorparated in this mod.

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    I don't really see what the big deal is. I do understand that tremendous amounts of time and work and patience goes into these incredible mods. Most modders say that they mod for themselves first and not for the recognition. There's no money to be made. 99% of the people who play these mods don't know the people behind their avatars. Why should it matter if they have permission as long as they're not passing the work off as theirs. Modders release their work in for the public to enjoy. If someone wants to compile the best of the best and make a super mod for the public to enjoy, why crucify him. I mean if your work is in their best of the best mod isn't that recognition enough. There will always be a new mod that comes out that will better than its predecessors. Imagine all the incredible mods that could be made, if all modders had a no permissions needed policy for there work. I think most of the modding "elites" don't really care the just say to ask for permission because thats just the community standard. The rest, I don't know maybe if feeds their ego or something. I know people are proud of their work and everything, but I mean in ten years is it gonna matter if your "fake" name is in the credits of some long forgotten mod. just my two cents, for what its worth outsider lookin in

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    I really hope that posting these links wont get me a warning because they are torrent links, but to a mod for medieval2, so that isnt illegal or copyrighted content. I am not sure if it is requiered for the game to be in russian originally to install it as one description says it does but the other one says it dosent, so install at your own risk!

    Base mod 1.0 - http://www.torrentino.ru/torrents/gy...bulat-steel-tw

    Patch 1.4.1 - http://www.torrentino.com/torrents/1113503

    I havent tested these both out myself, but am downloading and will post results tommorow.
    Last edited by Vissewalde rex de Gerzika; November 08, 2012 at 04:36 PM.

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    Default Re: Does Damask Steel have permission from SS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baltic Warrior View Post
    I havent tested these both out myself, but am downloading and will post results tommorow.
    i got bored from playing "vanilla" so i got online and found this awesome site of whole new mods.

    i couldn't decide which to do which not to, but decided on stainless steel as it covers many mods and is quite popular.

    but if it is better and by any chance can be played in public then do tell me, i will install it too. currently downloading stainless steel 6.3

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    Default Re: Does Damask Steel have permission from SS?

    Ok, thanks for the assistance. I'm not really interested in playing, I'd just like to get a better look at their models/textures and ui cards.

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    You might as well get 6.4 after. It's the most recent version.

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    Well, im back with good news, after spending a whole day reading the notes of installing and installing 2 times because the 1st one f-ed up, i have the mod running. The whole installation process is a mess, and gets just ridicilous at some points even, i wont go into detail because it is long and im tired, if you guys are interested in how to install say so and i will write it down tommorow.

    I didnt play the campaign almost at all, but here is a short sum up:

    The strat map now looks amazing, there are new skins for most of the things, ships look better than a bathtub toy(that was said in the description file) , there are new unit cards for almost every unit, and they have even made 3 rivers navigatable by ship! There is also new music, and new clips for events, which are mostly taken from movies, etc, etc. Im sure there is a lot more that i havent noticed because i didnt play much campaign.

    Ofcourse there are obvious downsides as well:

    Most of the smaller factions now are using the Italian accent(yes the voices in the game are in english still), like Lithuania, which makes no sense, and Scotland is now using half Scottish, half English voices

    Most of the overhauling for the battlemap(new skins for units) has been done the russian factions only, and now they are also OP - a unit like Gridni, which are supposed to be people living along the russian rivers called to arms had something like 4 attack and 10 or something defense in regular SS with BftB submod, now they are 10 attack, 30 (seriously?) defense and 7 charge, plus they have shields and 1H axes, they are likely death machines(havent tested them in custom battle yet).

    The european and muslim factions are mostly unchanged as far as i have looked which is not much, but i am sure they arent.

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    Default Re: Does Damask Steel have permission from SS?

    Quote Originally Posted by k/t View Post
    You might as well get 6.4 after. It's the most recent version.
    i will after 6.3 is downloaded as i need 6.3 for it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Baltic Warrior View Post
    Well, im back with good news, after spending a whole day reading the notes of installing and installing 2 times because the 1st one f-ed up, i have the mod running. The whole installation process is a mess, and gets just ridicilous at some points even, i wont go into detail because it is long and im tired, if you guys are interested in how to install say so and i will write it down tommorow.

    Most of the smaller factions now are using the Italian accent(yes the voices in the game are in english still), like Lithuania, which makes no sense, and Scotland is now using half Scottish, half English voices
    was the game in english or language has to be russian?
    if english then sure i would like to play it.

    also can't we just put original sound files of those factions back?

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    Default Re: Does Damask Steel have permission from SS?

    Quote Originally Posted by shoaibasghar_s View Post
    was the game in english or language has to be russian?
    if english then sure i would like to play it.
    Well the base language of the game dosent matter, it will be in russian anyways, im most places at least, i think in some places it was just not possible for them to change to russian, so it has stayed in english, but thats only about 10% on the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by shoaibasghar_s View Post
    also can't we just put original sound files of those factions back?
    I guess that might be doable, but im no modder.

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    Default Re: Does Damask Steel have permission from SS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baltic Warrior View Post
    Well the base language of the game dosent matter, it will be in russian anyways, im most places at least, i think in some places it was just not possible for them to change to russian, so it has stayed in english, but thats only about 10% on the game.

    so 10 percent english 90 percent russian?

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    Default Re: Does Damask Steel have permission from SS?

    Quote Originally Posted by shoaibasghar_s View Post
    so 10 percent english 90 percent russian?
    Yes, you can see "Navies cannot move on land" in one of the pictures i posted just now.

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    Default Re: Does Damask Steel have permission from SS?

    The European factions have been messed with. If you check out some of the posts in the screenshot thread I linked at the tope of the page, you can see that the modders have taken Dome's models and textures from the Magyar Mod infantry and applied them to several other factions, with mixed and matched body parts. The French Knights also have very elaborate head plumage, but other other than that I couldn't really tell. The Russian units seem like they are a combo of mostly Ruischi and a bit of the new Byzantine Roster i mentioned in a previous post.

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    Damn that russian mod looks sexy, anyone knows how to install it properly?

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    Default Re: Does Damask Steel have permission from SS?

    Ok a few screenshots.

    I started off with French cav:

    Some sort of early gunpoweder cav
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    Reiters(every european faction has them)

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Mechant cav(attck is now 13 instead of like 5 i think? And charge is 8)

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    These guys are called swordsman or something similar for some reason

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    I think that these guys are supposed to be mailed kinghts

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    Feudal knights

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    Noble Knights(i think)

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    Kights Hospitaller

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    Knights Templar

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    Gendarmes

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    Lancers

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    These might be chivalric knights

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Alright, here is Poland/Hungary

    Magyar cav

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    veteran swordsmen(available for oth Poland and Hungary)

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Some Polish cav(sorry havent played Poland in ages so i dont know), could be Polish Kights

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Polish guard

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Hussars

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    Dismounted Polish knights

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    I also looked at the Byzantine/Khwarezmian units, they are probably from the Khwarezmian/Komnenian unit rousted which you can find as a submod for SS, only odd usit was the German mercenary unit for Byzantines, they use a 2H sword but have a shield in the hand as well

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Some Crusader States units

    Constable of Jerusalem

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    St. Larazus Knights

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    I have no idea who these are, the spears they have look like nothing ive seen before either

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    Dismounted St. Larazus knights

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    Ok thats what i have for now, i might get a few screens from the strat map or Russian factions later.

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    Default Re: Does Damask Steel have permission from SS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baltic Warrior View Post
    Ok a few screenshots.

    I started off with French cav:

    Some sort of early gunpoweder cav
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 



    Reiters(every european faction has them)

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Mechant cav(attck is now 13 instead of like 5 i think? And charge is 8)

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    These guys are called swordsman or something similar for some reason

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    I think that these guys are supposed to be mailed kinghts

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Feudal knights

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Noble Knights(i think)

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Kights Hospitaller

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Knights Templar

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Gendarmes

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Lancers

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    These might be chivalric knights

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Alright, here is Poland/Hungary

    Magyar cav

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    veteran swordsmen(available for oth Poland and Hungary)

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Some Polish cav(sorry havent played Poland in ages so i dont know), could be Polish Kights

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Polish guard

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Hussars

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Dismounted Polish knights

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    I also looked at the Byzantine/Khwarezmian units, they are probably from the Khwarezmian/Komnenian unit rousted which you can find as a submod for SS, only odd usit was the German mercenary unit for Byzantines, they use a 2H sword but have a shield in the hand as well

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Some Crusader States units

    Constable of Jerusalem

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    St. Larazus Knights

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    I have no idea who these are, the spears they have look like nothing ive seen before either

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Dismounted St. Larazus knights

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 


    Ok thats what i have for now, i might get a few screens from the strat map or Russian factions later.
    Thereis nothing new in here.The only thing they have made are the Units cards






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    Default Re: Does Damask Steel have permission from SS?

    Well, stolen or no, their navigable rivers and strat map city models are absolutely gorgeous... I've always wanted to see navigable rivers in the game - ESPECIALLY in the Russian areas where the rivers were so important to their settlement.

    edit: Looking at the screen shots, it actually looks like realistic trade routes snake their way up the rivers, too! I see, finally, a route going from Constantinople, up the Black Sea and into the Volga river!
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    Default Re: Does Damask Steel have permission from SS?

    Quote Originally Posted by MagicCuboid View Post
    Well, stolen or no, their navigable rivers and strat map city models are absolutely gorgeous... I've always wanted to see navigable rivers in the game - ESPECIALLY in the Russian areas where the rivers were so important to their settlement.

    edit: Looking at the screen shots, it actually looks like realistic trade routes snake their way up the rivers, too! I see, finally, a route going from Constantinople, up the Black Sea and into the Volga river!
    Im back, just got the screens from the game for that! Only thing i forgot are the trade routes in the rivers, yes they are there. If there is enough interest i can make a guide for installing.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 













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    Default Re: Does Damask Steel have permission from SS?

    are all the menus and infos that appear after each turn in russian too. cz in that case im not going for it and start steel 6.4.

    also could you tell any other mods on this site that when added to steel 6.4 make th game closer to this version?

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    Default Re: Does Damask Steel have permission from SS?

    Quote Originally Posted by shoaibasghar_s View Post
    are all the menus and infos that appear after each turn in russian too. cz in that case im not going for it and start steel 6.4.
    Yes, most of the important things are in russian, such as traits, announcements, descriptions etc, i suggest you stick to SS 6.4 instead

    Quote Originally Posted by shoaibasghar_s View Post
    also could you tell any other mods on this site that when added to steel 6.4 make th game closer to this version?
    It would be easier to translate the game, plus you need to know how to mod quite well to do all this.

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