Fairy new to this mod, need some advise on my Epeiros campaign

[Hitman9000]

Hey, the reason why I started this topic is mainly due to the problem I seem to be having in my campaign and I would also like some advise since I am fairly new this mod. First of all I can't recruit any units in Capua , I am unsure what government to build, I, II, III or IV, I have attached my save file so you can have a look. Any advise would be much appreciated, tips, how I am going so far, thanks.

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[JaM]

Try IV and destroy all baracks.. then build new ones.

[Boriak]

Destroy any government that was there before and build Provisional Government (The Sword icon, takes one turn to make), followed by Type III government. This is cheap and takes three turns to build, and enables you to build Regional barracks (orange icon), which give you access to regional troops of Campania, which are for Epeiros Camillan Reserve Skirmishers, Greek Classical Hoplites, Campanian Cavalry and Samnite Heavy Infantry.

Building Native Barracks (red icons) don't give you any decent troops for that province.

You could also build a Type IV government in Capua but then you can only put in an allied general, never your FM. After you have the barracks which give you Samnite infantry, you can switch to Type II government.

[Jive]

Destroy any government that was there before and build Provisional Government (The Sword icon, takes one turn to make), followed by Type III government. This is cheap and takes three turns to build, and enables you to build Regional barracks (orange icon), which give you access to regional troops of Campania, which are for Epeiros Camillan Reserve Skirmishers, Greek Classical Hoplites, Campanian Cavalry and Samnite Heavy Infantry.

Building Native Barracks (red icons) don't give you any decent troops for that province.

You could also build a Type IV government in Capua but then you can only put in an allied general, never your FM. After you have the barracks which give you Samnite infantry, you can switch to Type II government.

This is in reference to a KH campaign. After taking most of Italy, including Roma, Arretium, Ariminum, and Capua, it seems there aren't any troops available in the first three cities.

All previous barracks have been destroyed, and either Type III or IV governments installed. When I right-click on the barracks available, neither one shows a list of troops (except Eleutheroi for the Native barracks). In previous campaigns, if I built a barracks that didn't show a troop list beforehand, then it still wasn't possible to recruit any units after the barracks was built.

So maybe it's necessary to build several levels of barracks before getting anything? Or should I simply resign myself to pacifism in the north? (Funny, I built an Ephebic barracks in Capua that lets me recruit classic Greek hoplites and medium cav with a Type II guv, while Arpi--also with Type II--doesn't show anything but Eleutheroi available.)

Thanks for reading and have a great day.

Edit: Oh yeah, one more thing: Oftentimes I build barracks BEFORE choosing a government, for obvious security reasons, so it's not always necessary to install the government first.

[Samariten]

This is in reference to a KH campaign. After taking most of Italy, including Roma, Arretium, Ariminum, and Capua, it seems there aren't any troops available in the first three cities.

All previous barracks have been destroyed, and either Type III or IV governments installed. When I right-click on the barracks available, neither one shows a list of troops (except Eleutheroi for the Native barracks). In previous campaigns, if I built a barracks that didn't show a troop list beforehand, then it still wasn't possible to recruit any units after the barracks was built.

So maybe it's necessary to build several levels of barracks before getting anything? Or should I simply resign myself to pacifism in the north? (Funny, I built an Ephebic barracks in Capua that lets me recruit classic Greek hoplites and medium cav with a Type II guv, while Arpi--also with Type II--doesn't show anything but Eleutheroi available.)

Thanks for reading and have a great day.

Edit: Oh yeah, one more thing: Oftentimes I build barracks BEFORE choosing a government, for obvious security reasons, so it's not always necessary to install the government first.

I often do the same thing when i occupy a settlement. Prepare for government - barracks - gov iv

[Samariten]

This link is about government types you also find it on the main page.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=207235

[Biggieboy]

Hey, the reason why I started this topic is mainly due to the problem I seem to be having in my campaign and I would also like some advise since I am fairly new this mod. First of all I can't recruit any units in Capua , I am unsure what government to build, I, II, III or IV, I have attached my save file so you can have a look. Any advise would be much appreciated, tips, how I am going so far, thanks.

I'm not very familiar with the Epeirote campaign, so I can't give you specific hints for that, but since you're quite new, I can give you some general pointers:

very simply put, the "best" government" is type I if you can build it. They're very few in numbers, only in the historical homeland of the faction. Type 1 will allow you to build all buildings in that settlement. The lower the type, the lower amount of buildings you can make.

Also, Type I government will allow you to make the best factional units in that era (barracks lvl 5 if I'm not mistaken). Type IV on the other hand will allow the most regional units (like Romans recruiting Sweboz/Arverni-type units).

Type IV settlement is special in that you can recruit generals there, which can either serve as general (move them outside the settlement on the first turn they're created) or as a client ruler (leave them in the settlement). Do NOT use family members as governors in type IV settlements, bad things will happen.

Apart from that, mind your economy, you might have to disband useless units or navy (as is the case in some campaigns), prioritize,...

Hope this was kinda helpful, I'll try to answer other questions you have, and I'm sure others will too!

[Hitman9000]

Thanks for the answers and tips, I will try out what Boriak said and let you know

[Jive]

Update EB KH fans: After installing a Type IV guv and a client ruler in Arretium, I'm finally getting to build a barracks that will give me Hastati and skirmishers.

Unfortunately the same can't be said of Roma; not only is it bereft of troop-bearing training centers, there's a problem with the two governors. The original guy, a Greek, is now an interloper since he had to stay in the city to prevent disorder. However, when he moves out, leaving the client ruler alone, public order goes down to 30% or something. This hadn't happened in a couple other Italian cities in similar circumstances (when the original ruler, having become an interloper, moved out in favor of the client). Curious, eh?

[Entropy Judge]

The original guy, a Greek, is now an interloper since he had to stay in the city to prevent disorder. However, when he moves out, leaving the client ruler alone, public order goes down to 30% or something. This hadn't happened in a couple other Italian cities in similar circumstances (when the original ruler, having become an interloper, moved out in favor of the client). Curious, eh?

I haven't had it as Epeiros, but I have had it as the Romans; when taking Numantia, I had to leave my General there to maintain order. Unfortunately, as it turns out, his other +Order/+Law/+Happiness traits (including his Influence) were so high that the only way I could keep the city happy after he left was to cheat in every Order-boosting building I could *and* lower the Taxes to Very Low. So I just reloaded and changed the government to a Type III instead and let him stay there :/

[Boriak]

If the city has Type IV government, your FMs need to stay away from it or the unrest will build up in max three turns. Either switch to Type III government or recruit an Allied General and leave him in the city for the first turn so he will turn into a Governor.

[Jive]

These problems might be specific to my campaign. In any event the government conundrum has been solved. It took a couple turns but now the Romans have grudgingly accepted the client ruler, although they had to be given semiannual amusements to titillate their jaded tastes. Bonania had a similar problem: the FM was obliged to be an interloper to keep a lid on disorder until the depleted masses (hey, I wanted to be kind, but they shut their gates and became red-faced when my lads took over) finally warmed up to their mercenary master. All's well that ends well.

Still, only Arretium allows recruitment of genuine Roman troopers. Roma, Arpi, and Ariminum won't allow anything, even skirmishers, while Segesta and Bonania give exclusively Gallic types. Only Taras and Capua make any concession to their Greek heritage; they're a bit behind the lines, but at least they offer stuff like classical hoplites, phalanxes, and medium cavalry to keep the war machine going, if only in low gear. So let's say the glass is half full.

News bulletin just in: After building two native barracks in Ariminum it's indicated that the next one will recruit Hastati and Camilian skirmishers, same as Arretium. Guess you just gotta be persistent, and optimistic.

[Samariten]

Stay for a few turns in a newly conquered settlement so you can pacify it and build barracks to train local milita before handing it over to a local ruler.

[Boriak]

Your FM can only pacify a province if he has a lot of Influence or if he has a lot of Law/Happiness giving traits. You can use the Provisional Government for that time and that is enough to build the first tier of the Native and Regional Barracks.

[JaM]

Personally i enjoy this.. in my game, i have even increased amount of spamed brigands to maximum.. That way if there is a riot somewhere, army of brigands will appear you have to fight... makes game more enjoyable for me, forcing me to keep at least one legion home... it also makes conquering new provinces more fun,due to same... even if I conquer the city, if i fail to manage the unrest, i will have to face rebel army...

[Samariten]

You know that if you leave your FM in a settlement while building or built gov type iv the FM always gain the trait interloper?

[JaM]

I never keep Legion in the city that long... practically i leave it once government building is built. I only leave Auxilaries to pacify the population..

[Samariten]

I never keep Legion in the city that long... practically i leave it once government building is built. I only leave Auxilaries to pacify the population..

Sorry my post was to the thread maker not to you