Should the limit of children be increased?

[Captain Grimes]

It always helps to have more than one or two spare heirs

[Adreno]

a few bastards here and there would be fun too

[He111]

a few bastards here and there would be fun too

Oh yea, i like the mechanics in Cursader Kings2 in which your Bastards try to get ther own thing going and Ursurp Titles and start Rebellions, would fit into the later Roman Empire

[emotion_name]

One of the things i miss now when playing S2TW is the massive family tree i used to have in RTW! Having to scroll across to see all the branches, and seeing all the dead members, able to hover over them and see how they dies, and when!! Ahhhh, nostalgia!

I get why it wasnt used in S2TW mind, smaller scale and what not, but with the "Titles" that can be granted now it would be cool to get back to loads of kids, huge family trees that keep an accurate record of ALL family members.

[SturmChurro]

No, having too many generals gets too complicated. I usually end up forgetting about most of them except for maybe the four or five I actually use. I would like more traits, however.

[♘Top Hat Zebra]

No, having too many generals gets too complicated. I usually end up forgetting about most of them except for maybe the four or five I actually use. I would like more traits, however.

You're right, of course, but now that we can get rid of generals without having to send them on ships, it's far easier.


I want unlimited, that way everyone is happy. I can keep my family small if I want, or I can make it a vast web of people.

[RO Citizen]

I like the CK2 style, but it wouldn't fit a TW frame. For gameplay reasons, I think 4 children are enough, if there will be more families and recruitable generals

[Marcus Aemilius Lepidus]

I like the CK2 style, but it wouldn't fit a TW frame. For gameplay reasons, I think 4 children are enough, if there will be more families and recruitable generals

In Rome Total War it was like the familythree of CK2 and it was better than in any later titles. Med2 was okey but you could'nt change your heir anymore.

I liked it, because it was like a Pantheon were you can see your greatest Generals again even if they were dead for decades. In Shogun they were forgetten, specially when even the picture of the damyio never changed. I allways had the same looking guy, just with diffrent names, but nearly the same traits too...

I don't think that the three will come back this way or the shogun one, because we have a senatsystem. Maybe like in Europa Universalis Rome and i hope that i don't have to play one roman familly from the start to the end. I would like to start with the Cornelii and Scipii over the Licinii and the Julii.

[douglas]

I'd go for a variable number of children if the female members went to the family of the husband - disappeared from the map if not royal or married to other faction heirs. Four from the male heirs and four from female married members tends to become unmanagable after the third or fourth generation.

[Wowwars]

Unlimited for the fun of it, honestly i did hate how RTW and MEd 2 had Family trees with all your generals being somewhat related to each other.

[torongill]

I suppose a realistic compromise should be in place - increased number of children, but low number of children reaching adulthood. An example - Cornelia, The Mother of the Gracchi, bore her husband twelve children(which was unusual by Roman standards. Hell, it's unusual by anyone's standards ). Only three of them reached adulthood. Child mortality was serious business back then.

[Captain Grimes]

All good games should make things opptional, such as having large family trees or small (it could be a setting - family size small, medium or large) personally i think a large family size would make the game more interesting in later stages as it opens up to family rebellions and inter family rivarlies

[SturmChurro]

All good games should make things opptional, such as having large family trees or small (it could be a setting - family size small, medium or large) personally i think a large family size would make the game more interesting in later stages as it opens up to family rebellions and inter family rivarlies

That would be ridiculous. Making the world feel more robotic or simulated, so to to say.

[Ἀπολλόδοτος Α΄ ὁ Σωτήρ]

I would prefer more genarals and less family members. The family tree could sometimes get to big and I don't like having too many family members.

[General Maximus]

Increased? I'd say that it should be 'decreased' to no more than 2 children. My generals had no less than 7 kids, who then had 7 kids more, and this went on. It became impossible to control so many generals, or even create a space for them.

I hated to build hundreds of forts here and there just to hold the my generals. I had filled nearly all of the small islands in Aegean sea with forts.

It was a grand relief for me in Empire and Napoleon. But I was worried on it's return in Shogun II.

Besides, I usually like to play as a single province faction. A city state. Where am I going to hold those general and their whole tribe of kids?

This can be solved by two measures:
1) Allow us to retire our generals to 'court' and call them up whenever we want, like in Crusader Kings 2. I made a petition about this sometimes ago.

In that game, you can call up a courtier whenever you want him to lead an army, or send him back to stay idle or act as ministers and retainers. And female courtiers could sometimes be used to have 'bastards'.

2) Make the family tree invisible as in Empire and Napoleon. The royal household doesn't come up to crowd the cities for governorship, they stay in their palaces. This option is not desirable here, so allowing us to retire our generals and call them up whenever we want is the best option.

[SturmChurro]

I
This can be solved by two measures:
1) Allow us to retire our generals to 'court' and call them up whenever we want, like in Crusader Kings 2. I made a petition about this sometimes ago.

In that game, you can call up a courtier whenever you want him to lead an army, or send him back to stay idle or act as ministers and retainers. And female courtiers could sometimes be used to have 'bastards'.

2) Make the family tree invisible as in Empire and Napoleon. The royal household doesn't come up to crowd the cities for governorship, they stay in their palaces. This option is not desirable here, so allowing us to retire our generals and call them up whenever we want is the best option.

Or just keep the children limit as it is, for necessary reasons.

[Biggus Splenus]

Yes please! (@ OP)

Roman Noble "I might have another child" His Advisor "No sorry, you've reached your limit"

[SturmChurro]

Yes please! (@ OP)

Roman Noble "I might have another child" His Advisor "No sorry, you've reached your limit"

I mentioned this as well, would make it feel to robotic or simulated, but it is necessary to have a limit in children.

[torongill]

For the Roman faction, if they make it accurate, then you'd have no more than 4 commanders initially. Later you might get something like six or seven(in times of crisis), but no more than that.

Actually I think it would be better if only the commander gets bodyguards. If you have more members of the family, they can be put in charge of(or just become supernumeries) of cavalry units or if not possible, attached to the bodyguard unit. This way they can serve the obligatory ten years before becoming eligible for office.

[TheDamned]

Well back then they didnt care about where they were putting their "instruments" so having a lot of kids wasnt than uncommon