Dragon Age: Inquisition

[Cyrus the Virus]

Ah the journal entries and monsters and stuff? The DAO codex/journal UI was so much better than its counterpart in DA II...

You can't even remotely compare those to eachother my genuine opinion..
The DAO is so superior that it's ridiculous. Woe that they would change so much to the worse.

[Sir Adrian]

From what I understand the Codex/UI stuff in Origins was designed separately for PC and consoles, while in DA II it was identical.

I think it's retarded how the characted doesn't actually say what's on the dialog wheel. In ME sometimes what the character says is very divergent to what the text in the wheel said.

This.

I also hope to God that we don't see anymore of that voiced dialogue **** in the game, especially since it now has 6 origins for you character and they will probably only hire one voice actor for each gender. It's very immersion breaking (and pants on retarded) to hear a commoner talk like a nobleman or a mage talk like a warrior.

Seriously voiced dialogue barely worked in ME, in DA II it was just bad.

[Stavroforos]

It worked fine in ME, don't know what you're talking about.

[Sir Adrian]

Maybe you like not knowing what your character is really going to say next, the corny lines, the numerous instances where the dialogue options and the result are completely disproportionate, having your mentally scarred war vet/former Earth gang-banger/"Han Solo" like spacer war vet all sound like an American Rugby (aka Handegg) player, etc. I for one don't.
Why I said it barely worked in ME is because your options were very limited in therms as to whom and what your character is. And this is why it has no place in a game like DA where theoretically you should be able to play as anything, from a mad sorcerer to a paladin to a roguish thief to a crusty mercenary only looking for a quick buck. Look at what happened to DA 2 when they introduced it by force. It went from "be almost anyone you want to be" to "yeah you only get to play as one guy, and what class or gender you choose are meaningless". Hearing a Warrior who wields a sword the size of a small tree and decapitates things for a living talk with the same calm British accent as a Mage is the epitome of immersion breaking.
Maybe for you it's OK that voiced dialogue cause the sequel to one of deepest RPGs to come out after NWN 2 to offer less character choices than Mass Effect 1 (which while being a fantastically good game, isn't a full-blown rpg). For me it isn't.



Imho the only game the really did the whole "voiced dialogue wheel" thing properly is Alpha Protocol, and that's because it was designed around that feature from the start. The Dragon Age series on the other hand was not (neither was ME), and it shows.

[Stavroforos]

I disagree about the dialog wheel or fully-voiced characters being bad for Mass Effect, but yeah, it was poorly implemented in DAII. The problem could simply be resolved by having a few more voice actors to voice the main character and have you choose which one you prefer, but I don't know if we should realistically expect that to happen. The other option of course is to have the dialog wheel reflect what it is you're actually going to say.

[Shneckie]

With the amount of effort they put into voice acting for SWTOR, a multiplayer game, surely we can expect the same for a single player? Or is that just wishful thinking. The variation in voices for the classes in SWTOR was staggering and each one suited their class well (though the Jedi voices sucked ass imo). If they made a single player RPG; Dragon Age, Mass Effect, KOTOR or whatever, with that kind of variation in classes with unique voices, I would gladly pay double the price for that game.

[Stavroforos]

They wouldn't sell any RPG video game on PC for so much, but yeah, I would like to see many voice actors.

Though the idea that certain voices go with certain classes is just another part of the fantasy world which is stupid.

[Knight of Heaven]

ith that kind of variation in classes with unique voices, I would gladly pay double the price for that game.

I wouldnt. lets say the price for PC is 55 euros, i would most certainly not pay 110 euros for a video game good god. To only have more voice over cinematic. If i want to wacth a film i do it, and its cheaper.
Besides Voice acting isnt that expensive in comparison to the rest of game developing.

[Shneckie]

It was only a figure of speech to try convey how much I'd appreciate that kind of effort in a game but I guess it was poorly executed.

Though the idea that certain voices go with certain classes is just another part of the fantasy world which is stupid.

It worked well in SWTOR I thought. But I guess that's because Sith and the like are stereotyped within that franchise whereas with mages, warriors ect in DA, they're open to comparison with a wide range of source materials.

Maybe a typical selection from confident, sultry, wise ect type voices would be good but I can't see Bioware putting that kind of effort in.

[Stavroforos]

It was only a figure of speech to try convey how much I'd appreciate that kind of effort in a game but I guess it was poorly executed.



It worked well in SWTOR I thought. But I guess that's because Sith and the like are stereotyped within that franchise whereas with mages, warriors ect in DA, they're open to comparison with a wide range of source materials.

Maybe a typical selection from confident, sultry, wise ect type voices would be good but I can't see Bioware putting that kind of effort in.

Indeed, the Dragon Age world is much less about conforming to stereotypes than the Star Wars world is, which is why classes shouldn't have their own voice. I honestly don't mind if every class has the same voice, so long as it's actually a good voice actor with good lines.

AKA, Garrus.

[SorelusImperion]

Quite a few things together suggest that the Chantry Version is not entirely correct. One important thing to notice is that in the DAO epansion the "Mother" talks of a beautifull song/sound/music which incidentally is exactly what Andraste the "wife of the maker" produced. Andraste is supposed to have swayed the Maker through a beautifull song and the Chantry revolves around this song. It can't be an accident that both the Chantry and the Darkspawn both are influenced or even driven by a supposedly beautifull song. There are also hints that Andraste herself may have been a Mage and it's entirely possible that her body may have been possessed by a Tevinter Magister who returned from the black city. It is also likely that there is some sort of connection between Flemeth and both Andraste and the Darkspawn.

[Legio]

Flemeth is Andraste

[SorelusImperion]

Certainly possible in the sense that whatever Spirit inhabited Andrastes body now occupies the body of the witch we know as Flemeth.

[Cyrus the Virus]

They wouldn't sell any RPG video game on PC for so much, but yeah, I would like to see many voice actors.

Though the idea that certain voices go with certain classes is just another part of the fantasy world which is stupid.

Well considering a VA can do multiple roles (often) this should not be such a big deal.
There are more important matters me thinks.

[Sir Adrian]

Flemeth is Andraste

I used to think so myself, but it seems to convenient. And if she's Andraste, then whose ashes were those up in the temple, and why is she a dragon? Didn't the Maker hate dragons?


I really hope they answer these questions in Inquisition (thankfully that Walters cat won't be touching this story). And wouldn't it be cool if Sandal turned out to be the Maker in disguise, and he kidnapped the Warden and Hawke to protect them from Flemeth?

[Stavroforos]

Man, I really need to play some of this Dragon Age DLC, I don't know at all what you guys are talking about.

[Legio]

If Sandal turned out to be the Maker I would be furious...

[Stavroforos]

Enchantments?

[Sir Adrian]

If Sandal turned out to be the Maker I would be furious...

Well, he can permanently freeze a charging ogre and clear a room full of alphas and emissaries without taking a single point of damage.

And then there's this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzZNDU-Br8w

[Tankfriend]

If Sandal turned out to be the Maker I would be furious...

Enchantments?

Well, he can permanently freeze a charging ogre and clear a room full of alphas and emissaries without taking a single point of damage.

And then there's this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzZNDU-Br8w

Enchantment!