Biarchus
What kind of "exotic" units can we expect?
Elephants ofcourse are in (as expected)
but what kind of units/warmachines beside classic Infantry- and Horsemen with spear/bow/sword do you expect/hope to see?
Chariots?
Camels?
Warhounds?
Greek Fire?
Grenadiers?
RTW had bruning pigs, right? Any chance for their return?
I neither played the first RTW nor the new STWs so I'm interested what people with a bit more experience or knowledge might think
Protector Domesticus
Re: What kind of "exotic" units can we expect?
I want to say Martians, but maybe they are too exotic...
I expect naked Barbarians. (eye candy)
Senator
Re: What kind of "exotic" units can we expect?
Chariots/Camels definitely. Warhounds im not sure..i mean they were used occasionally but i dunno if they want to put in alot of effort into doing the models/animations/sounds just for 1 unit that isn't even that common. Greek Fire would be cool but there is no evidence it was used in this era, and im not really a huge fan of how fire works in Shogun 2(the fact that it's random + that it's REALLY annoying isn't exactly my idea of fun) but if they can make it work properly, and make it a really rare and hard to get ship i don't mind it that much. There will be a pig unit of some kind, it's unknown if it will be on fire or not.
Decanus
Re: What kind of "exotic" units can we expect?
Well, in Rome we had elephants, cataphracts, flaming pigs, naked fanatics, camels... so expect something along those lines this time round. As long as they are balanced and not overly-powerful, then I'm fine with it. After all, variation is the spice of life!
Re: What kind of "exotic" units can we expect?
I bet there will be female horse archers for Scythians and black warriors for Egypt.
Re: What kind of "exotic" units can we expect?
I'll refuse to buy the game if there are burning pigs.
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Re: What kind of "exotic" units can we expect?
Why? Don't you want to see how bacon is made?Originally Posted by Shankbot de Bodemloze
I'll refuse to buy the game if there are burning pigs.
Campidoctor
Re: What kind of "exotic" units can we expect?
Don´t worry.I'll refuse to buy the game if there are burning pigs.
"No pigs were harmed during the production of this game."
Rex Regum
Re: What kind of "exotic" units can we expect?
Chariots for the Eastern Kingdoms, such as the Seleucids and the Pontians.
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~General Pershing, report to Washington, 26 July 1917
Praeses
Re: What kind of "exotic" units can we expect?
Towered Elephants with five plus men on
Re: What kind of "exotic" units can we expect?
There are some references in later eras to elephants with an obscene amount of men. Enough that five or six seems like a reasonable estimate.
All from a dated wargaming book, The Armies and Enemies of Ancient China by John P. Greer. That doesn't change the validity of the references. However, I would profess a complete skepticism about such wide numbers and except for Maccabees and Philostratus, all that is related to the Burmese and Middle East. And we have most resources stating around/up to 4-5 for the little castle bit on the elephant in the west.Marco Polo describes an elephant having 12-16 warriors at the Battle of Vochan.
Third Book of Maccabees alleges Indian elephant can carry 32 warriors.
Philostratus in the Life of Appolonius II, c.ii says that 10-15 warriors could be carried on an elephant.
Elephant sent by Timur Khan to the Sultan of Egypt was said to have 20 drummers
Nicolo di Conti, visiting Burma in 1435, says that 8-10 was the number.
Caesar Frederick in 1568 states four.
Christopher Barri in Cochin China (1633) says that ordinardly the Burmese elephant had 13-14 warriors. Six on each side, mounted on two tiers of three each.
Protector Domesticus
Re: What kind of "exotic" units can we expect?
^ Don't you mean Mumakils?
Praeses
Re: What kind of "exotic" units can we expect?
My mistake
Tiro
Re: What kind of "exotic" units can we expect?
Well, i guess the Parthians/Pontus will get a Unit of Immortals, but they won´t be presented with Bows and Spears - they will look similar to the 300 Movie.
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Senator
Re: What kind of "exotic" units can we expect?
Why would pontus get imortals? Arent they greek...?
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Biarchus
Re: What kind of "exotic" units can we expect?
Uhh, I believe they were Persian.
Praeses
Re: What kind of "exotic" units can we expect?
That would be Byzantium Total War...
Not unless Medieval China is included.Grenadiers?
They won't get them since the Immortals weren't used after Alexander took over. Also, Pontos is a mixture of Greek and various Anatolian components, as well as Persian influence.
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Senator
Re: What kind of "exotic" units can we expect?
Thats what I though.
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-Mod Leader for the Wheel Of Time This is not the beginning, but it is a beginning
-Mod Leader for Shogun 2: Foreign Invasion if you want a mod with alot of units this is for you, not only is there the 40 units CA made theres planned to be atleast 177 NEW units when its done.
-Modder in the World War I and Shogun II project. The only full scale mod for FOTS and it plays nothing like FOTS. FOTS may have Gatling guns, WW1&S2 has tekidanto samurai, SNLF, MGs, kisho snipers, assault infantry(shotguns) just to name a few.
Tiro
Re: What kind of "exotic" units can we expect?
Well, almost every Total War title had Units which where totally out of timeline, im almost certain it will happen in Rome2 again.
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Re: What kind of "exotic" units can we expect?
Sri Lankan War Elephants were in high demand as imports into the known world. They were more aggressive than other Elephants. They were armed with a very long, very heavy chain attached to their trunk which had a heavy iron wrecking ball on the end. I'd love to use them.
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