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    Default God's Passiveness.

    These days, we dont seem to see God as much as we used to 1000-2000 years ago.

    Has he abandoned us? Or is he busy with another species?
    Last edited by SuperTechmarine; September 15, 2012 at 03:41 PM.

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    Only god knows.

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    God may have good reason not to intervene anymore, he is omniscient after all.
    So spake the Fiend, and with necessity,
    The tyrant's plea, excused his devilish deeds.
    -Paradise Lost 4:393-394

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valden View Post
    God may have good reason not to intervene anymore, he is omniscient after all.


    There is a irony to the razor in this case of course
    "When I die, I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like Fidel Castro, not screaming in terror, like his victims."

    My shameful truth.

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    I guess what people attributed to God 1000 years ago today we have reasonable, rational explanations for.

    Haha I'm only joking he's actually on Sabbatical in the Delta Quadrant. He'll be back on 21st December this year.
    'When people stop believing in God, they don’t believe in nothing — they believe in anything. '

    -Emile Cammaerts' book The Laughing Prophets (1937)

    Under the patronage of Nihil. So there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markas View Post
    I guess what people attributed to God 1000 years ago today we have reasonable, rational explanations for.
    I share this view.

    As we discover more of the truth about the universe around us, organized religion loses its political power and grip over society.

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    Well, he did say Muhammad would be his last Prophet. (AKA God will not intervene in Mankind's affairs until the End Times)

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperTechmarine View Post
    Well, he did say Muhammad would be his last Prophet. (AKA God will not intervene in Mankind's affairs until the End Times)
    No, Muhammad and/or the Quran said that god said it.
    There are no independent witnesses to any such statement of god.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manco View Post
    There are no independent witnesses to any such statement of god.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Brian de Bois-Guilbert View Post
    the Church has only improved mankind in history

    For this there are words, but none that abide by the ToS.

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    How was God more active miracle wise in the 11th century than he is in the 21st?

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    I dont remember seeing god a thousand years ago when the crusaders were raping muslim girls and the vikings were finishing up their raids.

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    LOL. And the Arabs slaughtering innocent Christians in Armenia and Spain too. The blade cuts both ways.

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    Loads of miracles and prophets ages ago these days with video cameras and less gullible people all of a sudden the interventions cease.

    Coinkidinks? No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    and less gullible people
    Are you sure about this part?
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    You don't seem to be familiar with how the burden of proof works in when discussing social justice. It's not like science where it lies on the one making the claim. If someone claims to be oppressed, they don't have to prove it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Denny Crane! View Post
    Loads of miracles and prophets ages ago these days with video cameras and less gullible people all of a sudden the interventions cease.

    Coinkidinks? No.
    There haven't been any major miracles since the incarnation 2000 years ago the drop off was well before modern science. Though of course I'm not counting Mohammed or anyone else like that who came later, they will be the false prophets the Bible warned against. But you still get things like healing, the stigmata, there were Saints who could levitate and go for years without eating or drinking, that kind of thing. A lot of it slips under the radar because it isn't taken very seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enzo View Post
    There haven't been any major miracles since the incarnation 2000 years ago the drop off was well before modern science. Though of course I'm not counting Mohammed or anyone else like that who came later, they will be the false prophets the Bible warned against. But you still get things like healing, the stigmata, there were Saints who could levitate and go for years without eating or drinking, that kind of thing. A lot of it slips under the radar because it isn't taken very seriously.

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    The bible actually foretold Muhammad's coming.

    “When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father—the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father—he will testify about me. 27 And you also must testify, for you have been with me from the beginning.
    Muhammad testified about Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperTechmarine View Post
    The bible actually foretold Muhammad's coming.



    Muhammad testified about Jesus.
    I know Muslims like that whole inserting Mohammed thing into the Bible thing but this has all been very well refuted over the years.

    http://www.studytoanswer.net/myths_ch6.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperTechmarine View Post
    The bible actually foretold Muhammad's coming.



    Muhammad testified about Jesus.


    SuperTech Marine i swear we just spoke about this on my early posts. God is not omniscient its logically incorrect when using the Abraham.

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    It is written that Jesus said His Father never stops working so perhaps the cynics just aren't in the right place at the right time. Perhaps you cannot see these things but go into any Christian bookshop and you will find many books written by people who have had the privilege of seeing and knowing God in these modern times.

    Of course it goes without saying that many countries are pressured into not allowing evangelism but so far without much success. I think of Latin America, India, China, even Russia but to no avail for God will have His way regardless. The idea that Mohammed is the last prophet of God is just bunkum because prophecy is just as enduring in churches as it ever was.

    For example, it is quite common for someone within a congregation to receive some word from the Lord which by the Spirit he or she is compelled to share it with their brothers and sisters in the Lord. This is prophecy at work and although it is not written of as in the Bible for the world to see, that particular church does see it. And what is given always has the authority of Jesus Christ at its roots.

    From Genesis to Revelation that is the foundational principle of Christianity, so when some man comes along with something that is the opposite to all Scripture, raises himself above Jesus Christ, that man is a false prophet. But just to show how false, he and all his followers expect Him that they deny to come and judge all of us at the end of the world. Now how silly is that?

    The only appraisal that Mohammed gets in Scripture is being called, even him never being personally named, a false prophet. He has embedded his followers into a creed of works that require mercy not grace and so each one is still under the condemnation of the law whether Moses' or natural which leads to death without mercy. By claiming he is the last prophet ensures that his word cannot be overcome.

    Were the millions allowed to read for themselves the wonderful grace of God in Jesus Christ, I doubt very much that they would remain within that system. But of course we all know the penalties of applying freedom to the brain in that respect. Oh, I know how sincere they are but one can be sincerely wrong and they are sincerely wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Augustus View Post
    SuperTech Marine i swear we just spoke about this on my early posts. God is not omniscient its logically incorrect when using the Abraham.
    If God is not omniscient then He is not God.

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