Romney's Campaign Behind Innocence of Muslims Film?

[Oswald von Wolkenstein]

Since information regarding the source of the trailer/film are extremely vague, and the film 1) Is so overtly and intentionally designed to cause riots 2) Almost expertly crafted to look like a hack job -- rumors are flying that this was indeed a job by pros to cause the riots on purpose and some are pointing fingers at Romney's campaign.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/09...ce-of-muslims/

[justicar5]

I would want some serious evidence before making that claim (it has apparently been on Youtube since July for a start)

[removeduser_487563287433]

Nonsense.

[s.rwitt]

Christ, Oswald you can stop the campaigning. Your guy is getting four more years, just relax.

[DisgruntledGoat]

Ah its been confirmed that a Coptic Christian from the US is behind the film... Nakoula Basseley Nakoula. Apparently the Israeli-Jew (Sam Bacile) that directed the film may or may not exist but is likely a creation of Nakoula. What Nakoula's agenda is who knows but it seems that hardliner Coptic's in Egypt have been promoting the film for some time.

[Oswald von Wolkenstein]

Ahh -- I'm not campaigning -- just trying to make sense of this. The film seems to 100% intentionally designed to do nothing but cause unrest. (I can change the title of the thread, if that would be better.)

[s.rwitt]

The film seems to 100% intentionally designed to do nothing but cause unrest.

And because Romney is, by definition, a racist IT MUST HAVE BEEN HIM!

[Oswald von Wolkenstein]

And because Romney is, by definition, a racist IT MUST HAVE BEEN HIM!

I didn't say, I just said that people were pointing in that direction. (If Romney were involved it would not be because he is a racist, it would because he would stop at nothing to win.)

Still it seems like they now found the man responsible (spoiler: it's not Romney):

http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2...arte_video.php

[removeduser_487563287433]

I saw something great the other day, about Obama releasing the recipe for the White House beer; "It's often repeated that Americans vote for the man they would most like to have a beer with, and Mitt Romney, a Mormon, does not drink".

[s.rwitt]

I didn't say, I just said that people were pointing in that direction. (If Romney were involved it would not be because he is a racist, it would because he would stop at nothing to win.)

Uh-huh.

[Oswald von Wolkenstein]

Uh-huh.

Some people were saying that Romeny made the film. I guess he may not have.

[JP226]

Interestingly enough, we have a thread over in the academy about this:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...=561745&page=2

[John ''True Grit'' Wayne]

Must be true

[MathiasOfAthens]

I dont know how I could vote for a man who doesnt drink beer.

[removeduser_487563287433]

I dont know how I could vote for a man who doesnt drink beer.

He doesn't drink any alcohol.

[John ''True Grit'' Wayne]

Does he come from a cult that moved to Mexico to escape the law?

[MathiasOfAthens]

I know, Mormons dont drink or do anything. And they cant have sex till they are married. ed up.



Anyway the article is interesting.

The spokesperson for the movie is Steve Klein, the CEO of Courageous Christians United. For those unfamiliar with this organization, it operates websites and hosts videos dedicated to attacking the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Islam, Judaism, the Jehovah’s Witnesses, Catholics, atheists, Bahá’í, The Unification Church, and even the United Pentecostal Church. The group is dedicated to restoring what, in Steve Klein’s own words is the “Christian Heritage of America.” When asked about the violence which resulted in the deaths in Libya, Mr. Klein said that he did not feel guilty and blamed the violence on the religion of Islam. However, when asked if he expected violence, he did admit that the violent response was as he expected.

This is disgusting .

A person who claimed to be movie director Sam Bacile was interviewed shortly after the violence erupted in Egypt and Libya. The majority of his comments boiled down to one comment, which he repeated multiple times throughout the interview, “Islam is a cancer, period.” Charming words. He also put the full blame for the attack on the embassy security, claiming no responsibility for his own portrayal of the prophet Mohammad as a pedophile and philanderer.

Steve Klein originally called the film’s director an Israeli, then later an Israeli-American. Mr. Klein also kept shifting the director’s age, occupation, and location. Some are even starting to doubt that there even was a man whom Mr. Klein called ‘Sam Bacile’ and that Mr. Klein made the movie himself. The lack of production quality demonstrates a lack of knowledge for filmmaking techniques, and with the most realistic portrayal in the trailer being a US military officer. Mr. Klein’s own military record would enable him to make that part work far better than the rest of the trailer. Eventually Mr. Klein admitted that the name is a phony, but would not divulge any further.

Once you start studying who Steve Klein is, quickly one discovers that he is found in the records of the Southern Poverty Law Center as a leader for the Church at Kaweah, part of the larger Patriot and Sovereign Citizen movements. For those of you unfamiliar with these movements, their basic concept is that the United States is an occupied nation, controlled by a corporation called The United States of America. They believe in the founding of the US as a Christian nation, to become the beacon to Christianity for the world. Sovereign Citizens have turned to violence in their attempts to undermine the government, such as the Oklahoma City bombing or the assassination attempt on Justice Ralph Beistline, but more often they engage in what the FBI terms Paper Terrorism, the use of fake legal filings to force their opposition to give in to their will. Members of the group have even formed a shadow government and are attempting to run for public office to undermine the nation.

For this group, the death of Ambassador Stevens would be welcome news. The viewpoint, that Islam is a menace, fit only for eradication and its members either converted by the gun or killed is held widely among these groups. As Steve Klein has already been found participating in anti-immigrant action along the Mexican border, assisting the self-proclaimed Minutemen, more violence inciting rhetoric would be expected.

I dont think we have to worry about theaters hosting this garbage. No theater in the US would pick it up.

And a point raised in the article is why did the spokesperson name the director as an israeli. That is sure to provoke people.

[Condottiere 40K]

Unlikely, since if it came out, it would kill his campaign. And he's come too far, paid too much and made too many Faustian pacts to let it be derailed by some grubby attempt at incitement, that would destroy his chances just when he's so close to the Oval Office.

[I WUB PUGS]

One of my Marines caught the clap from a Mormon chick.













Just saying.

[Condottiere 40K]

I guess he forgot to wear his helmet.