British Monarchy

[The Despondent Mind]

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I`m starting to think that this what the Monarchy is based on , on Kate Middleton's clothes or the queens , or some ridiculous Prince Harry's Statements that have nothing to do with his title .
Shouldn't the queen do something like , i don't know : RULE for example , and not just buy expensive dogs and gardens on the cost of the poor British people .

Of course there is that princess Diana that is loved like the Virgin Marry just because she died in car crash .

Kate sparks speculation after only drinking water during dinner at the Singapore Presidential palace

So what she drank only water , yeah that's really important , or what clothes did she wear during the Olympics , or even more important what did her sister wore on the Olympics .

British Royalty , media and all people that are actually interested in this sicken me .

[Hazelnut]

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I`m starting to think that this what the Monarchy is based on , on Kate Middleton's clothes or the queens , or some ridiculous Prince Harry's Statements that have nothing to do with his title .
Shouldn't the queen do something like , i don't know : RULE for example , and not just buy expensive dogs and gardens on the cost of the poor British people .

Of course there is that princess Diana that is loved like the Virgin Marry just because she died in car crash .

So what she drank only water , yeah that's really important , or what clothes did she wear during the Olympics , or even more important what did her sister wore on the Olympics .

British Royalty , media and all people that are actually interested in this sicken me .

So are you raging at modern celebrity culture or just the British Royal family? If it is only the Royal family were do you fall on the Dutch or Spanish ones?
No the Queen should not rule, she is doing what we pay her to do, look fancy, appear at public events and smile at tourists.

[The Despondent Mind]

So are you raging at modern celebrity culture or just the British Royal family?

At the disgusting mix of those two .

[SLN445]

The royal family realy has little power, so how are they ment to rule? They have the British government to do that.

They are for all intents and purposes a paid Tourist and National icon.

[mishkin]

Maybe a monarchical one should say for what is good a monarchy?
What makes it better a monarchy than a republic?
I only see a privileged family trying to behave with a certain dignity.

[Sphere]

So are you raging at modern celebrity culture or just the British Royal family?

Isn't that a bit redundant?

In any event, the British should first work on electing the upper house of the legislature. Then they can work on electing the head of state.

Baby steps.

[Hazelnut]

Isn't that a bit redundant?

In any event, the British should first work on electing the upper house of the legislature. Then they can work on electing the head of state.

Baby steps.

No, as he might be complaining about what he believes is the ‘uselessness’ of the British Royal family, and not just celebrity culture in general, who he might think are useful and somehow deserve the attention.
British democracy is fine, the House of Lords has no major power, the Queen has no major power, this leaves all the power with the parliament. Maybe the House of Lords can be reformed and made better, but it is not necessary. Just because the House of Lords is not voted for doesn’t mean Britain is a democracy.

[Dr. Croccer]

In any event, the British should first work on electing the upper house of the legislature. Then they can work on electing the head of state.

Baby steps.

Implying that democratization of these things is a step forward.

Turning the upper house into a duplicate of the lower house is especially retarded, seeing as the entire point of the upper house in modern politics is to provide some kind of meritocratic counterbalance to the lower house.

[removeduser_487563287433]

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I`m starting to think that this what the Monarchy is based on , on Kate Middleton's clothes or the queens , or some ridiculous Prince Harry's Statements that have nothing to do with his title .

If you read crap like the Daily Mail I can see why you might think that.

Shouldn't the queen do something like , i don't know : RULE for example , and not just buy expensive dogs and gardens on the cost of the poor British people .

No, she shouldn't, the United Kingdom is a democracy.

Of course there is that princess Diana that is loved like the Virgin Marry just because she died in car crash .

She was very popular before her death.

So what she drank only water , yeah that's really important , or what clothes did she wear during the Olympics , or even more important what did her sister wore on the Olympics .

British Royalty , media and all people that are actually interested in this sicken me .

Improve the quality of your media intake?

[Veliky Kaiser Theos]

It's not really news that they do bugger all for the luxury they live in, but they can't be blamed for the media coverage of them.

No, she shouldn't, the United Kingdom House of Commons is a democracy.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Inaccuracy

The House of Commons is a legislature. The UK is a Democracy.

[Sphere]

No, she shouldn't, the United Kingdom is a democracy.

Which Peer did you vote for in the last House of Lords election? The 6th Earl Granville or was it the 7th Duke of Sutherland?

[Yoda Twin]

Which Peer did you vote for in the last House of Lords election? The 6th Earl Granville or was it the 7th Duke of Sutherland?

What tosh, The House of Lords hold little actually power, to suggest the hinder the democratic process within the UK to the point you couldn't consider the State a democracy is laughable. Within the Westminster system, whoever holds a majority within the lower house is provided the opportunity to form government, and along with it, given the power to advise the Executive (the notion of responsible government).

[Markas]

So what she drank only water , yeah that's really important ,

The insinuation is that she may be pregnant, so yeah that would be kinda big news.

British Royalty , media and all people that are actually interested in this sicken me .

You mean like someone that started a thread on it? That kind of interested?

[Sphere]

Turning the upper house into a duplicate of the lower house is especially retarded, seeing as the entire point of the upper house in modern politics is to provide some kind of meritocratic counterbalance to the lower house.

Are you sure you want to use that word?

The 7th Duke of Sutherland, Francis Ronald Egerton, is a peer due to his heredity. How is that meritocratic? Do the Sutherlands have good genetic stock?

If 100 years ago the HL had been reformed and its members made fully elected, would you today be arguing it should be changed back? I have a hard time believing you would.

(as a side note, there is a movement of crazies in the US who want to get rid of direct elections for US Senators, I disagree with them as well.)

[removeduser_487563287433]

Are you sure you want to use that word?

The 7th Duke of Sutherland, Francis Ronald Egerton, is a peer due to his heredity. How is that meritocratic? Do the Sutherlands have good genetic stock?

If 100 years ago the HL had been reformed and its members made fully elected, would you today be arguing it should be changed back? I have a hard time believing you would.

(as a side note, there is a movement of crazies in the US who want to get rid of direct elections for US Senators, I disagree with them as well.)

Hereditary peers cannot vote.

[ivan_the_terrible]

Hereditary peers cannot vote.

So why are they there?

[mishkin]

So why are they there?

You do not understand: the british monarchy is cool and there is nothing more to say.

[removeduser_487563287433]

So why are they there?

It was part of the deal to get the lords to agree to blair's reforms. Compromise is the nature of politics.

[Dr. Croccer]

Are you sure you want to use that word?

The 7th Duke of Sutherland, Francis Ronald Egerton, is a peer due to his heredity. How is that meritocratic? Do the Sutherlands have good genetic stock?

If 100 years ago the HL had been reformed and its members made fully elected, would you today be arguing it should be changed back? I have a hard time believing you would.

I would, seeing as any other sensible democracy will have an unelected upper house, regardless of whether they're politicians or not. Again, having both houses elective just means that the upper house is now subjected to the same kind of petty nonsense that dominate the lower house. Someone mentioned America as an example of a state that does have an elected upper house, and thats evident because the US hasn't passed a sensible law since half a century ago.