EDL gloat thread extra- EDL plans suicidal return to Walthamstow

[mongrel]

Just a over month after an Alliance of socialists, ecumenical faith groups and pissed-off locals stopped an EDL march and sent the fascists packing, the EDL plan to do so again.



As noted in the last EDL gloat thread, http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...555966&page=28 the EDL marched down Forest Rd E17 without a cause or a plan. They failed to appreciate that they were not in the "heart of Islam" as Pam Geller would put it, but walking through a mixed area which houses part of London's Tamil community. There isn't a mosque in the vicinity. Local residents joined the antifascists who were blocking the direct path to the EDL rally point and shut off the side streets, blocking off the hapless EDL. Tommy Robinson and the EDL leadership scarpered leaving the rest of the 200 Nazis to be kettled by the Met and being forced to piss and defecate themselves in front of the good people of Walthamstow before being allowed to come home.

You would think they would have cut their losses, but it seems that Tommy Robinson just does not get it, as the EDL have cancelled a planned march in Norwich (Norwich??) in an attempt to "take back" Walthamstow on the 27th October.

They are refusing to liaise with the Met Police. I find this odd. The Met did have their fun with them by searching each and every one of them at the end and arresting those with drugs and other dodgy items, but without the Met the EDL would have been literally chased out of town. At least they were able to retire with ther colours last time.

The last march coincided with the Waltham Forest Art Fair. The new date co-incides with the London Anarchist book fair which attracts well over a thousand people.

It is unlikely that they will raise another 200 people, and no-one will surely be stupid enough to want to go through the same process again? Is the EDL leadership doing this because the grunts realise they were had, and that their leadership had thrown them to the wolves whilst they retreated to the comforts for a Luton pub?

I think there is more to this. The usual Pam Gellar and Robert Spencer blogs hyped up the EDL march and were outraged to find that Londoners resented being told what to do by foreigners using Northern Nazis as sockpuppets.

I had my fun watching the EDL get ejected from London, but a repeat performance would be indulgent. Ban the sods I say.

If you want to hear Tommy Robinson's video excusing the shambles, see my Public Profile. ( Alas, too many swear words to post here).

[King Gambrinus]

Can we place bets as to when this wretched excuse for a "party" will cease to exist? I'm surprised Robinson hasn't been sent to martyrdom yet. He's even pissed the BNP off...

[nein]

britain is a joke... good job stopping those nazis, your reward is losing all power and becoming americas

also why do all of these peasant morons keep trying to oppose the will of their masters by participating in a system they own? Either go all out and revolt or shut up and take it

[Sir Winston Churchill]

britain is a joke... good job stopping those nazis, your reward is losing all power and becoming americas beeyotch

I'm sorry, but what?

also why do all of these peasant morons keep trying to oppose the will of their masters by participating in a system they own? Either go all out and revolt or shut up and take it

I'm sorry, but again, what?

[Simon Cashmere]

Just a over month after an Alliance of socialists, ecumenical faith groups and pissed-off locals stopped an EDL march and sent the fascists packing, the EDL plan to do so again.

Why is this a good thing? This is what the Nazi Stormtroopers did, disrupted and terrorised people of other political viewpoints to prevent them from having their political rallies. The so called 'anti-fascists' are adopting fascist tactics, by terrorising and attacking people who they disagree with. What if someone was to do the same thing to your mates the Orangemen? While I am a Republican, I firmly believe in the right of the Orange men to march, whenevr they want and for the Catholics to do the same. In the recent EDL march, muslims stood by and threw rocks at the EDL while the Police did nothing. There is a sense on the Left that people who disagree with them are 'evil' and any sort of violence that occurs to them, any sort of hardship is deserved. That is not the mark of a civilised society, but a society that is totalitarian - where one viewpoint is the only one permitted, and that violence and threats of violence will be used to silence any dissent.

Muslims, even Anjem Chaudry should be able to march wherever he wants to in peace, as should anyone of any political viewpoint. And so should the EDL. Stopping them from having a viewpoint in a supposedly free society, may suit you when it is not your viewpoint that is silenced but someone elses. But eventually, someone may come around to silencing you from expressing your viewpoint on the same basis. Democracy cannot work unless people are free to criticise and express their beliefs, whether you disagree with them or not. What we see with the EDL and indeed any critics of the multiculti state, is not to engage with them on the issues they raise - but to demonise them personally and to criticise the speaker, not the words spoken.

Other people can counterprotest - but violence, threats, and 'sending people packing' is NEVER the answer in a civilised society.

[mongrel]

Why is this a good thing? This is what the Nazi Stormtroopers did, disrupted and terrorised people of other political viewpoints to prevent them from having their political rallies. The so called 'anti-fascists' are adopting fascist tactics, by terrorising and attacking people who they disagree with. What if someone was to do the same thing to your mates the Orangemen? While I am a Republican, I firmly believe in the right of the Orange men to march, whenevr they want and for the Catholics to do the same. In the recent EDL march, muslims stood by and threw rocks at the EDL while the Police did nothing. There is a sense on the Left that people who disagree with them are 'evil' and any sort of violence that occurs to them, any sort of hardship is deserved. That is not the mark of a civilised society, but a society that is totalitarian - where one viewpoint is the only one permitted, and that violence and threats of violence will be used to silence any dissent.

Muslims, even Anjem Chaudry should be able to march wherever he wants to in peace, as should anyone of any political viewpoint. And so should the EDL. Stopping them from having a viewpoint in a supposedly free society, may suit you when it is not your viewpoint that is silenced but someone elses. But eventually, someone may come around to silencing you from expressing your viewpoint on the same basis. Democracy cannot work unless people are free to criticise and express their beliefs, whether you disagree with them or not. What we see with the EDL and indeed any critics of the multiculti state, is not to engage with them on the issues they raise - but to demonise them personally and to criticise the speaker, not the words spoken.

Other people can counterprotest - but violence, threats, and 'sending people packing' is NEVER the answer in a civilised society.

Feck Anjem Choudhury. He is a moron whose views are rightfully removed from public discourse.

The EDL are the proper Nazis and they were told in advance that they were not welcome. We have seen what people with such views are capable of in Norway.

If they genuinely wanted to discuss some lunatic conspiracy the could have booked a room and chatted amongst themselves. The fact is that 200 brainless saps were dragged through the heart of East London's Tamil community because their American puppet-masters who orchestrated this cannot tell the difference between a local authority and the towns that constitute it.

They do not have any coherent briefs in any sense of the word. They just hate brown people and have wasted their lives as pawns for the games Geller and Spencer play at taxpayer's expense.

It gave me great pleasure to see them routed. They weren't Londoners so they have no right to claim London's streets as if they own the place. But really , they need to be toilet trained, disgusting beasts. Dog poo is bad enough, but Nazi poo?

But I have to ask again. why do you (and Pam and Robert) consistently support such a violent organization.

Daily Star.

A SOLDIER who smashed up an anti-racism event with his English Defence League pals is set to be kicked out of the Army.

Cavan Langfield, 18, and a gang of mates stormed a Rock Against Racism gig in Leeds last year.


They smashed windows and hurled bricks and bottles, knocking a teenager’s tooth out.


Langfield, from the Yorkshire Regiment, and eight other members of the gang were convicted at Leeds Crown Court last week.


A source at the Ministry of Defence said: “The wheels are in motion to get him thrown out. That’s a whole promising career up in flames.”


Langfield, from Huddersfield, West Yorks, was slapped with a one-year community order, 200 hours of unpaid work and £250 compensation.


In July, the Daily Star Sunday revealed the teen had become a dedicated follower of the anti-Muslim group, travelling across the country to attend marches.


A spokesman for the MoD said: “All those who are found to fall short of the Army’s high standards or who are found to have committed an offence under the Armed Forces Act are dealt with administratively (up to and including discharge) or through the discipline process, as appropriate.”

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view...ack-from-army/

britain is a joke... good job stopping those nazis, your reward is losing all power and becoming americas beeyotch

also why do all of these peasant morons keep trying to oppose the will of their masters by participating in a system they own? Either go all out and revolt or shut up and take it

Fail.

The EDL are a wholly-owned subsidiary of the ICLA. They are effective run by American Zionists and Neocons. Follow the Google trail.

Can we place bets as to when this wretched excuse for a "party" will cease to exist? I'm surprised Robinson hasn't been sent to martyrdom yet. He's even pissed the BNP off...

Well he tried to invite the infidels and other sundry casuals for the next march. However we can rule them out as infighting broke out last week , literally. If Robinson cannot raise numbers for the next march, in Walsall, then only the most irrational and stupid would;d want to return to E17. I fear that there may not be any further EDL gloat threads.


I recommend a sound track for the next march.

[John ''True Grit'' Wayne]

Former football hooligans decide to make a national hooligan party and use Muslims as a target.Money gets shipped in from Jewish elements that are happy the EDL is going to war with people who hate the state of Israel anyway's.It used to be no blacks or Irish signs outside doors of pubs so racism is always there,Islam is the new target.

[mongrel]

The innocence of EDL. Does not require a description

[Jom]

The innocence of EDL. Does not require a description

Perhaps he should learn how to write grammatically correct English before claiming to defend the English. The plural of "embassy" is "embassies".

[Guy]

The EDL will eventually find failure if it's not brought about by an opposition. Like everyone outside of the subject does, both sides are perceived as worse as one another: similar tactics in order to end the protests of the opposing side. However, an opposition is needed to stop a far-right movement - without question - regardless of how shocking their tactics may be. The actions of protesting or writing letters sadly aren't always enough to stop a force (albeit often minor) which has shown its members posing in front of Nazi flags, with guns or giving Nazi salutes.

As somebody living about 2 miles away from where Adolf Hitler ruled over half of Europe, it's understandable why there is such a violent force pushing back against the far-right from developing into anything other than a nostalgic riot of idiotic morons. The idea is that we're stopping a potentially threatening force to the wider public with the threat of restricting or removing the freedoms of people within our society. By what means we stop that is the varied opinion.

No pasarán.

Why do you CONSTANTLY post threads about the EDL but say NOTHING about the hate rally today outside the US Embassy in London, with 150 people (led by Anjem Choudhary of course) chanting hatred towards the USA and burning the flag. I think you keep quiet about this, because you would PREFER to live in a Sharia controlled Britain....


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...m-hits-UK.html

Because this is a thread about the EDL and not Anjem Choudary.

A Sharia Britain will be the worse thing since unsliced bread.

It won't happen.

And those small, unsliced Hovis breads were my childhood. Straight hatin'.

[Kanaric]

Perhaps he should learn how to write grammatically correct English before claiming to defend the English. The plural of "embassy" is "embassies".

Nobody cares.

The innocence of EDL. Does not require a description

Well to be honest hes right. The fact that muslims are offended are their own fault. No other religion or ethnicity would react the same way in the entire world in this 21st century to perceived slights. We are talking about people who murder over youtube videos and comics here, come on now.

[John ''True Grit'' Wayne]

I want to drink beer and eat Sausage rolls and see this film on the big screen for the lulz.
Not to offend Muslims but the Film is so rubbish it may be funny to laugh at it and Tony Robinson's speech after it.
Am I a Nazi now?

[mongrel]

The facts on the ground are that a fair number of EDL members left following Walthamstow. He will struggle to get more than 150 Nazis. The North West used to be the most active with 2,000 active members. It is down to 30, with deserters and people being locked up for various violent offences.

Robinson's desperate appeal to the Casuals and Infidels, ie the football hooligan affiliates, to join him led to a fistfight. Word on the street, I guess literally, is that not only will there be the same number of Muslims, Christians and antifa but the number of unaligned locals likely to join in will increase substantially, particular as the local council is asking for more locals to join in. Coupled with a 1000 expected anarchists who happen to be having a book fair in the area on the same day, the odds of Tommy Robinson showing up, let alone speak are next to zero.

[M D]

See the problem with the EDL, is that they assume they have the support from every white person in Britain, which is absolutely ridiculous.

[SuperTechmarine]

Wow what a douchebag. First he incites violence, then, he's like, "they're endangaring us not me!"

ME Muslims are really easy to anger.

[Aymer de Valence]

Why do you CONSTANTLY post threads about the EDL but say NOTHING about the hate rally today outside the US Embassy in London, with 150 people (led by Anjem Choudhary of course) chanting hatred towards the USA and burning the flag. I think you keep quiet about this, because you would PREFER to live in a Sharia controlled Britain....


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...m-hits-UK.html

[M D]

Why do you CONSTANTLY post threads about the EDL but say NOTHING about the hate rally today outside the US Embassy in London, with 150 people (led by Anjem Choudhary of course) chanting hatred towards the USA and burning the flag. I think you keep quiet about this, because you would PREFER to live in a Sharia controlled Britain....


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...m-hits-UK.html

The difference is the EDL is a constant threat, this is a one off protest in a matter that will soon dissipate.

[SuperTechmarine]

Why do you CONSTANTLY post threads about the EDL but say NOTHING about the hate rally today outside the US Embassy in London, with 150 people (led by Anjem Choudhary of course) chanting hatred towards the USA and burning the flag. I think you keep quiet about this, because you would PREFER to live in a Sharia controlled Britain....


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...m-hits-UK.html

A Sharia Britain will be the worse thing since unsliced bread.

[mongrel]

Why do you CONSTANTLY post threads about the EDL but say NOTHING about the hate rally today outside the US Embassy in London, with 150 people (led by Anjem Choudhary of course) chanting hatred towards the USA and burning the flag. I think you keep quiet about this, because you would PREFER to live in a Sharia controlled Britain....


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...m-hits-UK.html

Who gives a feck. I thought David Cameron controlled Britain, not that beardy chap. What planet are you on? A Sharia Britain does not exist. I can't see how 150 people can somehow gain power in our democracy, do you?

They are not defecating on the streets are they, or threatening to place bacon on them?

A Sharia Britain will be the worse thing since unsliced bread.

A Sharia Britain can't possibly exist.

See the problem with the EDL, is that they assume they have the support from every white person in Britain, which is absolutely ridiculous.

Yes and that is why they received such a hostile reception. It was a long march of shame down a long road of privately owned residential property. Londoners owned that property, not a bunch of imported drunks.

It is noted that for reasons I do not know, perhaps American incompetence ( Tommy Robinson said he didn't plan this, but a number of American sites promoted it) they decided to march in a part of East London devoid of Muslim places of worship etc.

[SuperTechmarine]

Who gives a feck. I thought David Cameron controlled Britain, not that beardy chap. What planet are you on?

They are not defecating on the streets are they, or threatening to place bacon on them?



A Sharia Britain can't possibly exist.

A Sharia Britain = Extra Extra Heresy