Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: Update the Avatar Campaign

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    JackDionne's Avatar Senator
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,459

    Default Update the Avatar Campaign

    This has been modified since new information has come out in regards to Rome II.

    Total War: Rome II Avatar campaign (AC)/Classic battle, lessons learned from Shogun II

    Some observations I would like to point out for the next Avatar Campaign (for Rome II).

    Allow a focus group to exist with Active players of the Avatar Campaign with separate forum just for Avatar Campaign.

    • Beta test it particularly if there are 700 different types of units to test for balance.
    • Allow resetting of specialty units.
    • Plug Pullers get a loss credited to them.
    • Debug camera, everybody gets it or nobody gets it.
    • Do not allow people to inspect their opponent’s win/loss record prior to a battle. People become intimidated if you won a lot of games; they see this and leave rather then play it out; wasting a lot of time.
    • Allow variety of Generals for classic battles, i.e. Melee, Bow, and Leadership depending on cultural traits.
    • As gamers we should also discuss realism mode for AC, when a veteran unit losses all its men should it be gone?
    • When modifying stats on units for balance, adjust one thing at a time, not like what you did with the Loan Swords in Shogun II.
    • Keep the Avatar Campaigns separate, the same way you did with “Fall of the Samurai”. Example: Rome II, Rise of Rome and Fall of Rome all three should be separate.
    • Allow one Avatar for each faction if possible. This didn’t matter so much for Shogun II as all the clans basically have the same unit types.
    • The skill tree should be kept simple like in Shogun II. More is not always better. Post the skill tree for us who play the AC for some input. Should the skill tree be different for different factions? If it could be done would it improve balance between factions?
    • Allow General to stay the same cost even when you have points to spend in the skill tree in the same way you do with veteran units unspent experience points.
    • Insert speed stats for all units on the unit card.
    • Create a pdf doc for downloading explaining all the moral penalties and bonuses. This would help a lot of the new players understand why their men break and route away.
    • The Plumbatarii or Plumbata is thrown underhand see thread http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=380904 please have the animation portrait it.
    • Allow everybody to gain clan tokens; some people for whatever reason are not comfortable joining a clan.
    • If a request cannot be done by the community (Avatar Campaign aficionados) just tell us it can’t so we can move on to more productive discussion.
    3K needs to have an Avatar Campaign!!!

  2. #2
    Dan the Man's Avatar S A M U R A I F O O L
    Content Emeritus

    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    The Land of Baseball and Apple Pie
    Posts
    11,554

    Default Re: Update the Avatar Campaign

    Avatar campaign? Maybe this is because I haven't played Shogun II yet, but I have no idea what this guy is talking about.
    Proudly under the patronage of The Holy Pilgrim, the holiest of pilgrims.


  3. #3
    alexanderswift's Avatar Senator
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Great White North
    Posts
    1,321

    Default Re: Update the Avatar Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan the Man View Post
    Avatar campaign? Maybe this is because I haven't played Shogun II yet, but I have no idea what this guy is talking about.
    That'd be why yes. It's a multiplayer feature in Shogun 2.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sphere View Post
    Don't try and kill my internet joy.

    It is all I have.

  4. #4
    =Vastator='s Avatar Senator
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Sardinia, Italy
    Posts
    1,284

    Default Re: Update the Avatar Campaign

    They can do all avatar campaigns they want, but there should be a simple old style mode when you pick up a faction and choose your army, with no differences in units due to rank diversity between players, no veterans, etc. Like the good old Rome (which is still played a lot in multy). And i hope no pay4win mode (DLC units...)

  5. #5
    JackDionne's Avatar Senator
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,459

    Default Re: Update the Avatar Campaign

    That's why they have to include a pdf doc to explain morale and how it is affected. Vet units cost more therefore you have less.

    That is an old complaint that holds no water.
    3K needs to have an Avatar Campaign!!!

  6. #6

    Default Re: Update the Avatar Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by =Vastator= View Post
    They can do all avatar campaigns they want, but there should be a simple old style mode when you pick up a faction and choose your army, with no differences in units due to rank diversity between players, no veterans, etc. Like the good old Rome (which is still played a lot in multy). And i hope no pay4win mode (DLC units...)
    Its called Classic mode in Shogun 2....

  7. #7
    =Vastator='s Avatar Senator
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Sardinia, Italy
    Posts
    1,284

    Default Re: Update the Avatar Campaign

    Quote Originally Posted by DisgruntledGoat View Post
    Its called Classic mode in Shogun 2....
    Wow thanks, such a stupid, i figure out only now that there is this option to check.
    Well, at least have to say i have started playng MP only few days ago.

  8. #8

    Default Re: Update the Avatar Campaign

    Still would prefer no pay to win units.

  9. #9

    Default Re: Update the Avatar Campaign

    imo Avatar Campaign as it is now would be stupid because it should be as it was in previous TW games where u choose faction, get some gold select faction and units and ply with them. All these retainers and avatar lvl - special abilities just break whole MP experience because players can have big advantages before they even select their units. Also it would be stupid to fight with elephants, gaul warband and greek hoplites all in one army.
    Last edited by Fanest; September 09, 2012 at 04:11 PM.
    War is Hell, and I'm the Devil!

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •