Any trigger for swordsmiths guild?

**Falcon Hornbeam** · September 08, 2012, 08:41 AM

As the topic suggests, is there any trigger for swordsmiths guild or any guild in general? Is there a guide?

Thanks in advance.

**Chazz1225** · September 08, 2012, 08:52 AM

I've been wondering this myself, I would decline any guild offers for anything else waiting for it but it would never show up, so i'd settle for the masons guild. I do that you can upgrade the weaponry of handgunners and some other gunpowder based troop, but i think that's as far as it goes

**DeliCiousTZM** · September 08, 2012, 09:15 AM

i love swordsmith

**PapaRosario** · September 08, 2012, 09:53 AM

Check export_descr_guilds for guild triggers.

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**DeliCiousTZM** · September 08, 2012, 10:49 AM

Can someone translate that into a lazier English? so we solved this issue, Wait swordsmith only gives rank now and not upgraded weapon?

**PapaRosario** · September 08, 2012, 11:26 AM

It's pretty simple to understand. Guilds have 3 levels, which require a certain amount of points. The first one is reached at 100 points, the second at 250, and the third at 500. Each of those triggers awards or subtracts a certain amount of points to the swordsmiths guild. If the number has an "a" before it, it means that it adds/subtracts the number to all of your settlements. If it has an "s" before it, it means it adds/subtracts the number only to the relevant settlement. And if the number has an "o" before it, it means that it adds/subtracts the number to all of your other settlements except for the relevant settlement. It's simple to remember. All/Settlement/Other.

Besides just the point value, your settlement also needs to be at a certain level in order to get the guilds. The first level guilds require at least a minor city or a fortress. The level 2 and 3 guilds require at least a large city or citadel.

Edit: And yes, Swordsmiths Guild only gives experience in SS.

**Vissewalde rex de Gerzika** · September 08, 2012, 11:45 AM

It was pretty hard getting one, but after about 15 turns of rejecting the crappier guilds i finaly got all 3 important ones: Archers, Horsebreeders and Swordsmith guilds, trough all of them went against my plans, i had 1 fort designed for each unit type but the guilds were all given to the wrong castles

**PapaRosario** · September 08, 2012, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Baltic Warrior

It was pretty hard getting one, but after about 15 turns of rejecting the crappier guilds i finaly got all 3 important ones: Archers, Horsebreeders and Swordsmith guilds, trough all of them went against my plans, i had 1 fort designed for each unit type but the guilds were all given to the wrong castles

Lol this ALWAYS happens to me. I always plan out where I will have my Merchants Guild HQ and start pumping merchants out of there, and then I get a Master Merchants Guild offer somewhere else.

**joex49** · September 09, 2012, 01:06 AM

if you ant the swordsmiths guild just recruit a lot of sword wielding units. you will find the units in the DEB. also make sure they're a fortress for master and citadel for HQ. works for all other guilds.

**Falcon Hornbeam** · September 09, 2012, 02:49 AM

Thanks a lot guys. Which guild do you think is the most useful and which one is the most useless?

**Lazy** · September 09, 2012, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Falcon Hornbeam

Thanks a lot guys. Which guild do you think is the most useful and which one is the most useless?

Thiefs Guild!
Never build it! NEVER!
Not because it is not usefull... it is because the AI always builds it in almost every city!

Try building one HQ per guild. ( exept thiefs of course! Conquer a town which has it and just upgrade it )
And in all remaining cities merchants guilds.