English Defence League Finally Exposed by British National Party

[Sharpe's Company]

For a good many years people in and around the British political scene have compared and even tried to tie together the British National Party with the English Defence League.

Indeed on this very forum we've had certain members throwing the mud, in hope it would stick.

But now the BNP has taken the initiative to expose the EDL, by publishing a stunning detailed document.
Found Here.
http://www.bnp.org.uk/sites/default/...nce_league.pdf

You have to ask yourself the question, how come the opponents of the EDL such as 'Hope not Hate' or the thuggish UAF have not exposed them before the British National Party?

And yes you'd be right in saying this hasn't reached the mainstream media!

Which is very odd considering the BBC covers practically every EDL rally, and I personally would of thought any exposure of the English Defence League would be welcomed by the mainstream media, but obviously not when it's the British National Party?

[Watercress]

Ah, it's nice to see you back Sharpe. And indeed, this has been rather illuminating: I thought the BNP was all but dead and buried. Still, it is painfully obvious that this a ploy in order to somehow 'legitimise' the party by separating it from its grassroots support base.

[DimeBagHo]

Is this some sort of intramural dispute between the Nazis who hate Jews and the Nazis who hate Muslims?

[neoptolemos]

Is this some sort of intramural dispute between the Nazis who hate Jews and the Nazis who hate Muslims?

That's probably what's going on here.
Or how fascists illuminate the public for the "bad fascists".

[justicar5]

Is this some sort of intramural dispute between the Nazis who hate Jews and the Nazis who hate Muslims?

no, no it's Nazi's who hate Jews, Balcks and Muslims vs Nazi's who hate Blacks and Muslims! get it right.

[neoptolemos]

no, no it's Nazi's who hate Jews, Balcks and Muslims vs Nazi's who hate Blacks and Muslims! get it right.

I don't know, can someone be a good nazi without the Jew thing?

[justicar5]

I don't know, can someone be a good nazi without the Jew thing?

well Mussolini managed it (the Fascist party had Jewish members) technically tho they where Fascist (d'uh) not Nazi

[neoptolemos]

well Mussolini managed it (the Fascist party had Jewish members) technically tho they where Fascist (d'uh) not Nazi

Yep, you 've got a point here.

[nein]

pakistanis must truly be terrible immigrants if they can make neo-nazis, zionists and other groups all hold hands against them

[Jom]

pakistanis must truly be terrible immigrants if they can make neo-nazis, zionists and other groups all hold hands against them

Where in the BNP manifesto or any EDL statement have Pakistanis been named as their target? And which zionists are holding hands with which neo-Nazis against Pakistanis?

[neoptolemos]

Where in the BNP manifesto or any EDL statement have Pakistanis been named as their target? And which zionists are holding hands with which neo-Nazis against Pakistanis?

Boohhhh nazi supporter

(kidding of course)

[removeduser_487563287433]

It's the jooooz!

[Poach]

You have to ask yourself the question, how come the opponents of the EDL such as 'Hope not Hate' or the thuggish UAF have not exposed them before the British National Party?

Clearly the BNP had inside information, but felt its image would be better served by throwing the EDL to the dogs with their valuable information.

[Aymer de Valence]

Indeed on this very forum we've had certain members throwing the mud, in hope it would stick.

I agree. There are certain people in this mudpit who would attempt to forge a link/similarity between Communism and Nazism if it fitted their agenda.

Still, it is painfully obvious that this a ploy in order to somehow 'legitimise' the party

Why is it not a 'legitimate' party? The UK is a democratic country remember? That means we (unfortunately) have to accept all types of views, from the extremist BNP, to the pathetic Greens, right down to the depths of New Labour

[Sharpe's Company]

The English Defence League are heavily influenced and backed by Zionists. According to Tommy Robinson (It's leader) the EDL's mission statement is as followed.

I love this quote;

"The English Defence League was formed two years ago. One of the fundamental beliefs that this movement was built on was its support for Israel’s right to defend itself. In our first demonstrations, we went to Birmingham, and we flew the flag of Israel, the Star of David. In the first public speech I ever gave, I wore the Star of David in Leeds. The reason for this is because Israel is a shining star of democracy. If Israel falls, we all fall. This is what our movement has been built on for two years.

The English Defence League will not be deterred from its support for Israel and the Jewish people."

(Posted on Pam Geller's Blog Thursday, June 30, 2011)
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...-be-remov.html

What we have here are Zionists using useful idiots like Tommy Robinson to spread hate throughout the United Kingdom. To stir up the British people to engage in global conflict against Muslims, encouraging British youth to fight on behalf of a Greater Israel.

Now being a regular British taxpayer, I have become sick and tired of the EDL/UAF parading through British streets and fighting each other. The cost of Policing these events must of ran into the millions of pounds.

And who do we find are behind these conflicts on British Streets but foreign agents and their useful idiots.

This information provided by Nick Griffin MEP should be broadcasted on nationwide media and seriously discussed at the highest level. For far too long have we had these Zionist Hate peddlers spreading their vile on British Streets.

I just pray that nothing happens due to these people, like it did in Norway.
But just beware, this was posted on the 'gates of vienna' website.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

“4) Assassination of Key Britons

Following on closely from the previous objective, the assassination of key British traitors and collaborators will be an obvious goal for British paramilitaries. Such ruthless folk as the paramilitary types we envisage here will have little compunction about killing people perceived to be on the other side, most obviously politicians, public intellectuals, far left activists, and journalists. Activities of this sort will help impress upon the British public as a whole that British paramilitaries believe themselves to be in a war, and that war requires that traitors and enablers of the enemy be acted against ruthlessly.”

This chilling quote appeared on the pro-BFP/EDL Gates of Vienna website – a source quoted scores of times by Anders Breivik in his online manifesto scores of time – several months before Breivik embarked on his mass murder spree of teenagers involved in the pro-Islamic Norwegian Labor Party.

Despite the clear connection, no action was, or has since been, taken against the website. The manual for mass murder, ethnic cleansing and civil war in which the quote appears remains prominently displayed on the Gates of Vienna website, on which the supposedly ‘respectable’ and ‘moderate’ Paul Weston continues to be a frequent commentator. (Paul Weston being the Leader of the British Freedom Party, a political party very close to the EDL)

http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.co.uk/...s-from_29.html

[mongrel]

For a good many years people in and around the British political scene have compared and even tried to tie together the British National Party with the English Defence League.

Indeed on this very forum we've had certain members throwing the mud, in hope it would stick.

But now the BNP has taken the initiative to expose the EDL, by publishing a stunning detailed document.
Found Here.
http://www.bnp.org.uk/sites/default/...nce_league.pdf

You have to ask yourself the question, how come the opponents of the EDL such as 'Hope not Hate' or the thuggish UAF have not exposed them before the British National Party?

And yes you'd be right in saying this hasn't reached the mainstream media!

Which is very odd considering the BBC covers practically every EDL rally, and I personally would of thought any exposure of the English Defence League would be welcomed by the mainstream media, but obviously not when it's the British National Party?

This is balls.


Hope not Hate published a detailed account ages ago. There is nobody in antifascist circles
who is unaware between the connection between the EDL and American and Israeli Zionist and neocon funding.



http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/counte...rties-Alliance

In fact I have commented on this issue on this forum.

Geller and Spencer have long since given up pretending that they have little to do with the EDL




So I am curious as to how Nick Griffin took so long to work this out.

I would agree that the authorities have not lifted a finger to shut these people down, despite the terrorist tendencies of the EDL and affiliates. I would also agree that the EDL are sockpuppets. The planning and comment on the aftermath of the LOL fail that was the Walthamstow march was largely down to the usual American-funded sites. Because only in America could someone send foreign Neo-azis and football hooligans to march past two Hindhu Temples, and call it a march for freedom and against Sharia Law.

But why the comment from the BNP , are they desperate to woo the EDL waverers back now? They did take a good beating last week.

I will say one thing. Islamophobes will lie to this forum by suggesting that the counter-jihad movement is peaceful and non-violent . The article you have posted clearly illustrates that is not the case. The Breivik manifesto and Alan Lake's comments on the murder of British politicians are similar examples which are entirely consistent with that philosophy.

Is this some sort of intramural dispute between the Nazis who hate Jews and the Nazis who hate Muslims?

I think it is a dispute between those Nazis who hate Jews and blacks as a matter of course and those Nazis who are told to love Jews, hate Muslims and to try and hide any other prejudices.

[Sharpe's Company]

This is balls.

Hope not Hate published a detailed account ages ago. There is nobody in antifascist circles
who is unaware between the connection between the EDl and American and Israeli Zionist and neocon funding.

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/counte...rties-Alliance

In fact I have commented on this issue on this forum.

I would agree that the authorities have not lifted a finger to shut these people down, despite the terrorist tendencies of the EDL and affiliates. I would also agree that the EDL are sockpuppets. The planning and comment on the aftermath of the LOL fail that was the Walthamstow march was largely down to the usual American-funded sites.

This link you sent me must of been written from 2011 onwards because the British Freedom Party is only a year or so old. It is also worth mentioning that linking them to the ICLA doesn't provide concrete evidence of the links.

I agree that 'hope not hate' and others have provided information regarding Pam Geller, Robert Spensor and other extreme Zionists, who've made a living from spreading hatred towards muslims, but I've yet to see a connection provided by any left-wing organisation linking the EDL to lets say multi-millionaires such as Sheldon Adelson or Irving Moskowitz, hardcore Zionists.

Hope not Hate will never fully investigate the EDL because it gives them credibility and their presence is a benefit to their organisation, removing them completely would leave them with little to do, and more importantly defragment it's collection of activists, likewise the UAF.

[mongrel]

This link you sent me must of been written from 2011 onwards because the British Freedom Party is only a year or so old. It is also worth mentioning that linking them to the ICLA doesn't provide concrete evidence of the links.

I agree that 'hope not hate' and others have provided information regarding Pam Geller, Robert Spensor and other extreme Zionists, who've made a living from spreading hatred towards muslims, but I've yet to see a connection provided by any left-wing organisation linking the EDL to lets say multi-millionaires such as Sheldon Adelson or Irving Moskowitz, hardcore Zionists.

Hope not Hate will never fully investigate the EDL because it gives them credibility and their presence is a benefit to their organisation, removing them completely would leave them with little to do, and more importantly defragment it's collection of activists, likewise the UAF.

What is there to investigate?

The links have been known for sometime. Alan Lake and Chris Knowles were outed by the mainstream media some time ago and have lost their jobs as a consequence of that. Paul Ray, a founder member has been spilling the beans ever such Breivik's manifesto was published, because his description of his mentor could be interpreted as a passing resemblance to him.

The ICLA is the clearing house for funding and materials for counter-jihad groups to Europe.

This foreign movement managed to subvert UKIP by the last election, but you have to face it, the BNP adopted a similar platform too.

The counter-jihad movement should be monitored in the same way as any potential security threat, in my view.

[JP226]

I think the OP has a point

[Sharpe's Company]

The only mention in the mainstream media to my knowledge surrounding this issue was posted on the telegraph website, a blog written by Ed West.

Usually a fair commentor, but obviously must have zionist tendencies.

As the americans would say, you can tell he's 'butthurt'

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ed...f-bnp-england/

And he wouldn't be the first to say the BNP is on it's last legs, i've heard it for over 10 years now.