it's the economy!
i am playing as pahlava in vh/m
although i have conquered the whole asia(apart from india and arabia), egypt and the crimean peninsula i have serious financia problems
here it is my financial situation:
income expenditure
farming 13685
mining 22620
trade 43989
taxes 57183
wages 13300
army upkeep 98001
corruption 889 37364
and other
profits = -20000
any advice should be greatly accepted
Civis
Re: it's the economy!
maybe your army its way to big for u economy ;you are loosing too much money with u troops -98001 every turnOriginally Posted by Tabor of Assur
try to use good governators for your cities
Civis
Re: it's the economy!
"corruption 889 3736" that would be 9 MILLION in corruption - I doubt it.
Pahlava is swimming in monies when you get the mining towns. Balance your economy with your army upkeep and disband your army when you don't need it. Save up for another campaign.
Re: it's the economy!
corruption is 37000 mnai
i tried to disband mytroops but it is not enough and the majority is akontistai!
Civis
Re: it's the economy!
I doubt that very much since you cannot recruit Akonstitai in the East.
You asked for advice. Answer a few questions and I'll help you:
1) What regions do you hold (map would be good, regions names work as well)
2) What regions are held by Baktria and Saka? ( I assume the rest are Seleukid or rebelin your area of interest)
3) Have you captured and build mines in all the mining cities?
4) Do you have a plan for capturing the rich Indian towns (clue)
5) What are you doing to reduce Selekuid capability (the Agyraspides are really nasty)
Last edited by Gaiserix; September 07, 2012 at 12:49 PM.
Campidoctor
Re: it's the economy!
I would read that as the "income" from corruption is 889 and the losses from corruption are 37364. Those corruption losses are a a real PITA!
Do pahlava have any temples with law bonuses (never played that faction)? Start spamming Law temples and any other structure that provides a law bonus. I just build law temples for most of my regions now in order to keep corruption losses at a minimum.
Other law buildings I can recall:
Walls
Garrisons
Governor traits (tbh I never bother monitoring these for law bonuses)
I also think that once you start earning over 50,000 a turn then that affects corruption aswell, or corrupts your family members.
Last edited by Durnaug; September 08, 2012 at 08:03 AM.
Civis
Re: it's the economy!
re 1) With 71 regions you should be printing money :-)
re 2) and 4) With Baktria and the Seleukids wiped out and Saka reduced to mere rebel capability your world, Sir, is there for the taking.
re 3) for a long game like EB it's really worthwhile to build mines everywhere. Even if the income is only 600 Mnai per turn it will only take 20 turns before you make a profit.
re 4) The northern and southern Indian cities are VERY rich. They have gold mines. I believe Patala is 1800 Mnai just in mining and if you send a good mining character with a few good ancillaries you can easily make it 3000+ per turn. Exterminate the population and a decent general can keep it happy for a looong time. If it becomes a hassle then let it rebel and exterminate the population again. No need to play nice.
re 5) Since you are holding Anatolia (Smyrna, Pergamum etc) and still have a poor economy there is something seriously wrong. You probably have the reformed government in all of Persia by now, so congratulations on winning with Parthia!
If you wan't to conquer the world, then I would pull out of Crimea if I were you and consolidate your vast empire. Good governors can easily make 500-800 mnai per turn, so it's worthwhile to educate them. You need different armies for different enemies, so find out where their weak areas are and exploit them. Sauromate has poor infantry, so they are very easy to fight if you stay behind your walls. If in doubt, just bring more Caths :-)
Good luck!
Pahlava do have Law temples (Google: "Guide to Temples, EB").
There are no Law bonuses from Barracks and Walls (only 5% from large stone wall I believe), but there are other Law buildings. Town Garrison (Guard Tower, Hall of Judgement etc.), Parthian reformed government, Parthian Colony and Parthian remote settlement. (EB folder/Documentation/JMRC Building Trees).
Re: it's the economy!
in the regions west of Iran akontistai are recruitable while in Iran and in the eastern regions my garrison orces include mainly pantodapoi
1)I cant upload a map so i will just name my regions which are 71(nikaia-sardis-pergamon-mitylene-kydonia-rhodos-hallikarnassus-ankyra-ipsus-sinope-amaseia-tarsus-mazaka-trapezous-pantikapaion-chersonessus-tanais-hibis-ptolemaion teron-pselkis-memphis-alexandreia-dispolis megale-marmarike-salamis-jerusalem-sidona-petra-bostra-antiochia-pamyra-gerra-homma-ubar-charax spasinou-babylona-seleuceia-arbela which are my capital-edessa-karkathiokera-armavir-mitshketta-kolchis-phraaspa-susa-ecbatana-persepolis-gabai-apameia-hyrcania-karmana-chorasan-nisa-khiva-gava mazakata-marakanda-alexandreia eschate-chach-gava haomavarga-kophen-bactra-sntiochia margiane-alexandreia ariana-alexandropolis-propthasia-pura) i have also sent armies for gava aorsa and athenai.
2) As you have probably aready understood bactria doesnt exist anymore. however saka have 1)xionu 2)their capital and 3) another region west of their capital whose name i dont remember
3) certain cities have fully-developped mines, others have semi-developped(the majoity) and some cities have no mines at all (they are quite expensive)!
4)no i dont indend to capture the three rebel indian settlements because they will rebel for sure because of the capital distance, however the indian forces are rather small since they had been crashing the bactrian forces for 50 years but with heavy casualties.
5) the seleucids are gone- i defeated them using at first gorse archers and after having conquered Iran using the bodyguard cavalry of my family members (charging-reatreting-charging...) my new enemies are sauromatae, the hellenes, kingdom of saba, ptolemaioi and the saka. Actually all my bordering factions!
finally i intend to conquer yemen and the southern greece . is this a good strategy?
Senator
Re: it's the economy!
I recommend reading this.
http://ebmanual.wikispaces.com/Economy
Praeses
Re: it's the economy!
This thread may help, especially the last section of the OP.
Protector Domesticus
Re: it's the economy!
^ This is excellent!! And i am guessing it's yoursVery well done job!!
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Praeses
Re: it's the economy!
Well there were many people involved; the thread is a collection of experiences of various players. Though I did write some of it as well.
Re: it's the economy!
firstly thanks all of you for your help
i moved my capital closer to my financial cente, i built some mines and mithra temples amd i earn 6000 mnai every turn instead of losiing about 8000 mnai
i also prepare my indian expeditionaty force and improve my family traits
P.S. The military problem is fighting of the sauromatae heavy cavalry and the greek heavy infantry but i generally manage to destroy them
Civis
Re: it's the economy!
Good to hear that your economy is in the positive.
If you don't want to fight the Sauromate on your city walls, I assume that you want to attack and take their cites? It's quite easy without spamming a lot of units. If they have two or more full stacks with half heavy horse archers and half militia, then split your two full stacks in four (it's no fun to fight the AI if you are stronger) and "encourage" them to attack you. (bridges are too easy). You might loose one or two battles, but you have reduced their numbers, so it's just a matter of time before you are strong enough to attack them. It's still used today in military terminology - it's called a fighting withdrawal. It normally leads the enemy into a "killzone" ... or a place called Iraq. Whatever.
Re: it's the economy!
thans for the advice but i just captured gava-roxolanna which was the last city of sauromatae i wanted to take. the northern cities such as gava sarmatiae will only harm my economy(y the way i have already built my first mines especially in caucasus which is my most barbarous region)!
anyway it was quite easy because sauromatae extends from finland to tatzikistan and they have also gone to bankrptcy so they were having serious defendive problems!
again thans for your help
Campidoctor
Re: it's the economy!
You're welcome (+rep)
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